Is pornography degenerate Jow Forums? why or why not?

that would oppose what Ted Bundy said regarding how he became what he was, especially the violent porn.

Read tge sticky faggot

If women weren't whores they would be raped less. FACT.

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>making kids is a separate thing that mostly happens to silly people.
procreation is the purpose of sex, you moron. pleasure only reinforces the act.

On the one hand I want to post memes, on the other hand I want to post sources of why it is degenerate...
Memes it is.

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Common sense. Men only masturbate because they can't find anyone to have sex with. Sex is a basic human need for men and they'll try to get it however they can.

I would appreciate the sources user. I'm not baiting, I really want to see both sides of the argument and all the hits on Google are about pornography addiction.

I fap to escort ads.

>Men only masturbate because the can't find anyone to have sex with.
I suppose men in relationships don't masturbate, right?
>Sex is a basic human need for men
Wrong. You do not need sex to live, therefore it is not a need.

I fap to pictures of women's feet, so what?

And what purpose does a candom have, you idealistic moron? Definitely not procreation. Most of the sexual acts are committed for pleasure and people actively try to prevent pregnancy.

Just saying you don’t need porn to fap.

>Most of the sexual acts are committed for pleasure and people actively try to prevent pregnancy.
That's the prefrontal cortex at work, genius. Humans, unlike other animals, have the ability to plan ahead.
However, the purpose for sex is still procreation, whether we want it to be or not.

>is pornography degenerate Jow Forums?
Only if you're an American, raised to believe the human form is somehow disgusting.
>stop your ginning and drop your linen
Absolutely not, if people wanna do porn, they should be free to do so.
>if not, do you think it should be regulated, or no?
Depends on what you mean by regulated, if it adheres to the law(i.e. no CP, and no human trafficking/forced), then there's nothing to regulate.
>i want to hear some actual arguments without reference to any religious texts.
Well, there you go.

My only question regarding that, is at what point does it stop being porn?
Pornography is intended to sexually excite the viewer, and those images do the same for us. Would they have the same effects on our brains? Interesting stuff user.

>>stop your ginning and drop your linen
I meant
>if so, should it be banned?

Porn is degenerate. It's a Jew plot to destroy your mind.

>Only if you're an American, raised to believe the human form is somehow disgusting.
One could argue that pornography is not a true depiction of human sexuality.

If people plan ahead why do they do sex?

Upon doing some light research, it is true that a majority of the porn directors and studio owners are Jewish.

Who said anything about sexuality?
You people will still censor a penis, vagina or female breasts, even in non-sexual situations.
The only other people who go to such extreme extents, as to not show the human form in public is muslims.
Think about that for a second or two.

>not protecting your children from profanity

Yeah, because you are far too immaculate of an intellect to believe in such silliness(referring to "belief in God" of course) then that invalidates the use of religion based morality as rationale to be used when discussing this subject. This despite ≥90% of the population believing in God. I also must say that I become more impressed with atheists after nearly every single interaction I have with them(and sadly they happen to believe mankind is the end all be all, what a miserable existence that must be...).
As to the actual question -- I think making it more difficult for minors to access porn would be a good idea. But, as is the case seemingly most of the time when a government decides to ban something, it would likely create more problems than it would solve to outright ban porn. With the internet in consideration it would likely require infringing on everybody's rights to a major degree to get anywhere near being able to enact any sort of ban effectively(AKA we would need to become commie China to attempt such a ban, IMO).

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The same types of arguments are used to keep shamu in a small tank. He's alive. But that isn't the same as thriving.

>the human body
>profane
Yes, children really should be ashamed of their own bodies, that totally wont result in them seeking acceptance by any means necessary, i.e. child prostitution.

>making it more difficult for minors to access porn would be a good idea
Why do you want to hide it from minors?

>ashamed
Not the right word. They should know why walking around without clothes is wrong beyond the shame.

Yeah, the only we wear clothes is to shame ourselves. Definitely.

Oh, I get it, not censoring genitalia in a documentary about how the human body works, equates to children walking around naked in the streets.

You're better off without it.

Less instant gratification.

More natural reaction to women/men whatever you like.

Frees up your mind to pursue higher goals.

Feels good to be so sexually backwards that I've always fapped pretty much only to pics of clothed women. Just never "got into" porn and naked women are often uglier than with pretty clothes anyways.

Porn should not be banned but more information about it should be given to our youth.
Daily porn consumption has negative consequences and yes it is degenerate.
Porn watchers have an unrealistic expectation of how a healthy couple should act in the bedroom.
Porn should not be regulated but remain as adult content. The last thing we need is some kind of porn licence or internet ID account to access adult content.

it turns people into cucks. my wife's girl coworkers all complain that their boyfriends would rather bring the laptop to the bathroom and jerk off to porn rather than fuck them. these people have a serious problem and it ruins relationships.

Assuming that all depictions of nudity in the streets are educational documentaries

>Trying to debate with a AnCap who is literally a branch of liberalism (the perfect movement of degenaracy).

No, I'm assuming that all documentaries geared towards teaching kids and adults alike, how the human body works, are educational, and therefore should not be censored, as by censoring it your are withholding information that could prohibit someone from making a bad judgement call.

You have learnt the first thing well. Now should learn that so called american "liberals" are social democrats. Conservatives and libertarians are more liberal.

Don't try to move the goalposts to documentaries. My point is about censoring nudity in public, as was yours, initially.

The empirical evidence refutes your assumption. Niggers have more sex than white soyboys and reproduce more. The only thing that would change is female's profit from a man. And man's losses.

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> is degenerate pornography / pol /? Why or why not?
Yes, due to the involvement of industry partners. The workers work on the shit; It makes complacent and lazy the consumer if he is addicted and not be, is already complicated.
If so, should it be prohibited?
Yes. You will be encouraged to go out and get a partner with whom to fornicate.

The guys probably have ED with living women and require the visual stimulation of porn to even get aroused.
The solution for this issue is to quit porn and let the body re-calibrate. The couples can work together to fix the issue but it takes time.
Foreplay, massage, teasing etc.

In order to answer the question of pornography we must address the ancient need for casually taking care of our sexual inhibitions.

We always had prostitution and brothels in the west until feminists took it away from us in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Things were slightly different back then and now many of them want to bring it back, but that's aside the point, which is that we have always had a demand for sexual entertainment in our culture even in the most puritanical Christian times.

So is pornography degenerate? Sure, one could make the claim that it tampers with expectations and presents sex irresponsibly. But it's a necessary evil based on indulgences that have never and will never be purged out of our society.

One way or another, despite one's personal anathema toward it, sex trades will operate. Strip clubs (which half the time operate as brothels anyway) and pornography will always remain legal I think, and we can probably expect prostitution to be regulated back into legality in many places in the United States within the next twenty years.

We should also strongly consider that the rapid development of sex bots are a sure sign that culturally we are not moving away from freedom to access sexual enjoyment, but we are going to expand our methods of indulgence.

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thats what I told them. but its an addiction. these people can't give it up. its sad.

Porn is the result of a sexually repressed society

>Don't try to move the goalposts to documentaries
Then don't pull the "but think about the children" card, we where talking about porn, intended for adults, not children.
And then someone said "but think about the children", which as I just explained, children should not be withheld information about the human body, in fact, they should learn about it.
Porn on the other hand is not intended for children, and should also not be banned(which was the original argument), nor censored, as most well adjusted adults can discern fiction from reality.

Prohibiting porn will end the same way as prohibiting alcohol, it won't work.
Guys don't need porn to fap, imagination works just fine. If the issue is lack of effort in going out to find a partner, banning porn will do nothing in motivating people to put the effort in.

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>You people will still censor a penis, vagina or female breasts, even in non-sexual situations.
>The only other people who go to such extreme extents, as to not show the human form in public is muslims.
>Think about that for a second or two.

Why should the human form be censored in a non-sexual context, if you are not somehow offended by it, and want your peers(children included) to be equally offended by it?

Exactly. We had thots walking around openly offering sex for money in the west for thousands of years. It's embedded in our culture. We can't be expected to just drop the urge to fuck anyone we please. Without sex workers the only way we have to exercise these desires is from porn.

>putting a price on sex and making it into a commodity

what could possibly go wrong

>putting a price on peoples health and well-being, and making it into a commodity
What could possibly go wrong.

It's jewish so yes, you insufferable newfag.

You can't drop the urge to fuck, it is embedded into our biology. Paying a hooker is the easy and lazy way, which is why it is cheap and looked down upon.
Sexbots will solve this problem and everyone will be happier in the future.

Porn is simply an escape for all the men outcast by today's toxic society.

Sisu Perkele

Porn keeps me Monogamous. My wife won't do anal and it's my biggest fetish, porn gives me a way to satisfy that need without betraying my oaths.

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Moderation.
Anything that is abused, taken out of context, taken to limits has negative consequences.
If you moderate usage, its as good as anything else. Helps you modulate your fluids and hormonal baseline with cool releases. Helps you become more comfortable w/ your sexuality. Helps you avoid diseased roasites/etc. Find a great person you want to have a relationship with? Cool.. wont need to fap as much and can share with them your usage/etc of porn.. maybe recenter each other or if you're into it.. watch together and try out things. Moderate and be sensible and its not an issue. Going to extremes on either end including (No fap) bullshit is where dumb shit begins occurring. Nature is nature. Embrace it. Moderate it. Don't get carried away and you're fine. Fuck the man made guilt tripping religious bullshit. That being said, there's some truthful time tested red-pills found in religious texts about sexuality/degeneracy. So, be informed and moderate so you don't end up in some fucked up situation.

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100% degenerate. It rots society from within. The muzzie countries are right to ban it.

>is pornography degenerate Jow Forums? why or why not?
If you stare in it/make it or watch illegal stuff yes.

>should it be banned?
Yes

kike

How about women hand over their goods more often then?

Anal is your biggest fetish because of porn you idiot.

im not exactly sure what youre trying to argue here, but maybe thats because youre unsure of what im trying to argue. so ill spell it out. the transactional nature of porn is an exploitation of a basic human need, which negatively affects society. while things like one night stands have always been around, porn is more of a systemic attack on the full value of sexual interaction. while shared between two lovers, sex is a deeply bonding and powerful emotional experience. but its being transformed into a more lifeless and transactional experience. id argue against your point of health and well being in some cases, since anal porn eventually does dps to the anuses of pornstars, and some actresses submit themselves to being slapped and beat around

Watching porn is like visual cuckholdry

>im not exactly sure what youre trying to argue here
I'm starting to get confused, too.

Because, shareblue, your fucking slide thread with its 3 open ended questions has been discussed, visited, revisited, and so thoroughly been beaten that the dead horse's ghost has a concussion.

You have a shit tier slide thread that weve all seen before, and those that entertain your already discussed talking points are simple in the head.

Sage in all fields.
Day of the rope, i hope to be the one to boot your skull into a brick wall.

>and naked women are often uglier than with pretty clothes anyways
This is the one and only truth.

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I'll give you one thing to think about that helped me to decide about porn. You know how the porn industry is ran by the jews, right? Now realise that despite that, they let you watch most porn for free. For me it's certainly fishy as fuck

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Women do this in certain conditions.
Prove me wrong. You can't.

Porn shouldn't be banned but it should be required that ISP's disable it by default requiring adults to ask to have it turned on. and it shouldn't be on public TV.

>all the hits on Google are about pornography addiction.

Try Bing, they literally don't give a fuck, but Google is like that old grumpy lady that is way over zealous about safety and peoples' feelings.

Busting a nut a day is bad for your manhood and turns you into a mongaloid

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PSA on the Femin Virus:

basic gesalt:

>its a retrovirus
>strains of it have existed forever
>ancient ruins and mythology depict it as a warning of what it is, how it manifests, who it effects, and how destructive it is
>it seems to start to naturally show itself when a civilization starts to build dense cities/industrialize
>women stop wanting to have kids, only want foreign men, hate males
>everyone turns degenerate/pedo/gay/trans
>society collapses everyone goes down with it
>cia/paperclipped gnatzis figured out what it was and identified a strain
>it was weaponized
>it was released in the ghettos of america and poorer areas of western europe in the 70's
>today whites are infected as shit
>it is sometimes being administered in soyboy food products like starbucks drinks
>a cdc official was murdered for exposing it
>the who calls it disease x
>all feminists have it
>there is no cure

Further reading:

>murder, leadership change at CDC over Femin virus
archive.is/zh1bg
>WHO announces Femin virus as “Disease X”
archive.is/QwzgO
>The Oxytocin hormone and it's importance to pair bonding, maternal behavior, in-group preference, pregnancy and other functions
archive.is/HOGiQ
>Biological and psychological differences between liberals and conservatives
archive.is/mpHHf
>Birth control causes frontal lobe brain damage, as well as other things like infertility, cancer and depression
archive.is/vXXr8
>How Civilizations Fall: On the role of radical feminism in the decline of civilization
archive.is/6GonD
>Gloria Steinem's history with the CIA and use of the Femin virus on American black communities
archive.li/6WoM7
>The Bronze Age collapse was caused by a Femin outbreak
archive.is/t3cvv
>Elevated Femin infection rates helped cause the Cambodian Dark Ages
archive.is/45gAp
>List of symptoms Femin hosts display (work in progress)
archive.is/mH9nn

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It is a retrovirus that inserts its genome into the human genome. The inserted genome disrupts the DNA sequence and expression of a gene involved in regulation of oxytocin hormone signaling.

This causes disparities in oxytocin, which is involved in maternity, pair-bonding, ingroup preference, and dopamine/serotonin regulation, all things that feminists tend to lack.

archive.is/ut3De

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>Francho "Frank" Bradley, while facing weapons charges said he was on classified government mission "dealing with a virus"
>Bradley was conducting surveillance on Sanofi Genzyme in Cambridge, MA
archive.is/x0rqD

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Ban it all. Except your mom's work.

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> How about women hand over their goods more often then?
How about women reserve their bodies for deserving men who dedicate themselves to them in a mature long term relationship?

Yes indeed, if women did this, men accel to higher standards, society is a lot more healthier and happier. When they don't, everything turns to shit and hell in a hand basket quick. Porn is an equalizer in such conditions. A large number of women chose not to make their bodies sacred or be loyal/dedicated to their home and its reflected in dominant media. If women were dedicated to worthy men in a particular society, there'd be no interest. When they aren't, this gets reflected and men seek equalizers. This is the way females are equally as destructive as men. They work in the shadows and in ways not perceived most often. Prove me wrong..
HINT: You can't.

LEARN TO RECOGNIZE THE SYMPTOMS:

>youtube.com/watch?v=ERSGZO2GKHo
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I think its degenerate but I think people should have the freedom to be degenerate. You cant ban something just because someone doesnt like it

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What about reducing the risk of getting prostate cancer if you ejaculate around 21 times a month? I'll be 100% honest with you, I'd stop fapping but the sole concept of cancer actually terrifies me.

So child rape and regular rape should be legal

I don't care if you fags think it's degenerate, i like having a good wank sometimes.

It's degenerate and should Not be banned. Next step of your master plan: cover women completely?

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see
this is basically what im trying to argue

See : Idiocy exists at the extremes.
Can't fight/destroy nature, you lose.
Moderate it constructively and in a healthy manner instead. Just because some LARP fags in the desert created a cuck religion doesnt mean its true.

Porn - some guy fapping alone in his room, no victims.

Rape - someone forcing another person for sex

not even comparable, retard

But what happens when degeneracy starts effecting society?