Well? You're not a hypocrite are you?

well? You're not a hypocrite are you?

(Oh wait, 99% of conservashits are)

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>haha xd If you don't want one thing that means you don't want any of it lol xd xd xd

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saged

>Military
>Democratic Socialism

The nazis had heaps of things on this list so I guess they actually were socialists :^)

>welfare not one of the options
SAGE

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>List of things that I either don't want or can be done by private citizens for themselves in a free society
>Now I love socialism
Lol

Firstly, the US is a republic fucknut. It's neither democratic (you have those electoral houses that aren't strictly bound to what anyone votes) nor is it socialist (you have more than one party, and the parties do not exist to implement the final 'perfect' system of communism). Furthermore the state was created before marx put pen to paper, which makes it rather difficult for it to be socialist.
Either way that aside:
>Government
Not strictly a requirement for a 'democratic socialist' system, governments have existed in just about every other type of political system throughout history.
>Military
Again, feuding tribes had these
>Air Travel
Also present in Military Juntas, Monarchies and straight up Socialist states
>Driving
See above
>Water
You must be completely retarded to believe that no other system of governance has ever managed to provide water
>Everything else on this list
See above.

Now if you're interested in actually having a debate about the pros and cons of different systems of governance then how about you start with the problems you find with the US's implementation of the republic.

Correct and you forgot to SAGE

>claims all these were a result of socialism
kek

>All Government
Pretty much
>Our Military
At least 1/7 of it
>Air Travel
Why exactly do we need to pump millions of taxpayer dollars into these dogshit airlines?
>Driving
How?
>Water
Wow you got me. Guess I'm a sandernista now
>Public Schools
Should not exist
>Big Bank Bailouts
Fuck them
>Border Patrol
Yes, one of the few functions of government is to protect our borders idiot
>TV and Radio
Why is the state involved in this? Fuck that
>Cell Phones
How?
>Insurance
I DON'T want to be forced to buy insurance asshole, and government getting involved just makes it more expensive
>Police
Another one of those few functions of government, law and order
>Fire protection
Again
>EMS
South Africa has a private sector EMS that sounds pretty nice
>Public Libraries
Libraries are obsolete
>Public Parks
We don't need to spend $100,000 to build four fucking benches, it can be scaled back
>Money
You realize who controls the Fed, right?
>Corporate Subsidies
Not for those
>Federal Disaster Relief
Has that actually worked better than private disaster relief? I always hear about how shitty it is
>The Internet
Don't need the government for this, them getting involved makes it worse
>Patents
If anything patent laws are too strong and need to be relaxed. So LESS government
>Safe Food
Don't need the government for this, you should be buying local anyway hippie

Welfare and food stamps
Obama phones
Foreign aid programs
Funding grants for faggy academic research

>give up
>not fund via taxes
You fuckers are so retarded. If the government doesn't provide a service then that service doesn't just vanish into thin air. If people wanted that service then there is a market for said service and money to be made. You leftist retards can't even understand basic human interaction in society.

Here's a fun fact for you: we had all of those (at least the ones that existed back then) before we had income tax.

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Ayo hol up. Dem are all Wakandan inventions! Real pic related

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this fucking post makes no sense at all.
FWIW i'm personally not a conservative, but a right-wing libertarian, so i'd be pretty much fine without all of this stuff except for water and food, which i'm fairly certain existed well before socialism, capitalism, or any other sort of government.

sage

>it's a socialists try to claim the achievements of liberalism episode

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
>"Social democrats" redirects here. For a list of parties named as such, see Social Democratic Party.
Not to be confused with democratic socialism.

Nigga you dumb. Democracy isn't Socialism. Democracy is voting for private company political party to manage country. Socialism is workers managing country.

This.
Socdems aren't demsocs.
The former like democracy but would like to integrate social elements to it. The latter only see democracy as a means to get to a socialist state.

All necessary things needed for life can be supplied privately and/or with a community formed that is european.

Anarcho Fascism

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How about ALL OF THEM. MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. BURN THE OPPOSITION. SLAY THE DEMOCRAT. DESTROY THE SOYBOYS.

Socialism is defined as government ownership of the means of production
None of those things are socialism and most of them existed before the concept of socialism or were invented and pioneered by private industry.

Get rid of all of it.

People need to own their land and companies and run this as collective by voting what needs to be built. You can't expect democratic party to deliver everything to you, especially not when they have billionaire sponsors who love to exploit people and bring in cheap labor.

i would literally love for all of those to vanish into thin air, would only improve my life while n*rmieshits would suffer, thus pleasing me big league

>mutts can live without water
What's next?

Private army in USA doesn't protects borders, never did, they protect Israel. Private means that sponsors for army aren't people and isn't run by people. Funny thing is that sponsors for American private army are actually people, that's how retarded they are in capitalism, but they don't manage the private army. They pay for it, but don't manage it, complete retards. Capitalism is retarded and it talks about individualism, when it happily gives control over to some Mr. Jesus X and pays for it.

>weak b8 detected
try harder or kys faggot

That sounds good, but it's a destination, not a method to get there.

The problem isn't that the rich can influence politics, that's always going to happen, and you have to account for it.
No the problem is when the democratic institutions have been built without constitutional safeguards against that. Or that people have failed to fight to conserve said safeguards.

The US is a good example of the latter.

Funfact people did own their land before WW2, but it wasn't always directly people, it was king or some ruler who used people, but foreigners didn't own land and companies before international banks were created that enabled you to transfer foreigner money into another country, your native country. Socialism didn't allow to pick up money you earned in USA on Socialistic land. The only way you could make money is to make it on land where you were born. Anglo had some limited international money transfers, but that was mostly for their monarchy special VIPs, who were those notorious Zionists.

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HITLER WAS THE REAL NAZI

>police
why?

By "private" I mean it's owned by a citizen that's a part of the country they're in.
Not outside it.

That would be collective. 1 private guy is 1 guy who decides. 10 private guys is 10 people who vote. Of course in Socialism you also have ban on investment from foreigners, so this 1 guy has to make this money on his own by rules of that country. 10 private people is collective, since collective is nothing else than private owners. When you are investor from foreigner land that's not nationalism. Nationalism is money made on own land without any help from banks to print you free money abroad to buy up whole land. 1 guy can't realistically work so much to own big companies. Big companies are corruption, literally free money you got from banks. Oligarchs were all created by American dollar banks, some individuals were given literal free money they didn't work a second for and they used that money to buy land and companies and some of that they kept, later on when international banking was created they could hide their money abroad, which until this day this is the case. They also hide money in Switzerland and such international banking places because Switzerland can any day give them more free money, they just print it and they they go and buy some land.

I am not even sure what half of these things supposedly have to do with the government. Because at some point there was an invention made in a government lab that helped bring about something that makes a new product possible?
I mean, your phone is made by a private company, your phone contract is with a private company... At best you could say that the government helped establish certain standards?

Cuck.

the ANSI and ISO standards are about the only good thing to come out of (((government)))

>1 guy can't realistically work so much to own big companies.
I disagree here, I think it's certainly possible for someone to do so without outside help.
He could hit a gold vein etc.
A successful startup/idea can work as well.

Obvious slide thread is obvious. Faggots do not respond.
Sage

>anarcho fascism

whats up with all this meme anarcho ideologies

I want to get rid of public schools.

>money
You mean fiat currency?

you amerimutt democrat faggots dont even know what democratic socialism looks like
pro tip: it looks like venezuela and nothing like any european country
theres a big difference between "democratic socialism" which is an oxymoron in itself and social democracy which is a failing system btw

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Socialism doesn't has advertising. 1000 people buy somewhere from company A that produces A, other 1000 people buy elsewhere from company B that produces A, there's no need for big companies, there's no advertising, there's no driving around, each town has what collective owners of town voted to have and they want what they need, you just plug in as workers to produce what town needs, you get job 100% everywhere, you go study for job after you pick a job. Big companies in Socialism are companies who trade internationally what country can't produce and are therefore managed by country, in case of fascism that was tobacco companies and this is the aspect of fascism that is different from Communism, since realistically Italy could produce tobacco on their own and only use for their own, but Mussolini didn't pick this route because he needed to buy weapons for war, so he needed to trade what wasn't necessary most Socialistic or fascistic. Of course Mussolini in perfect fascistic economy wouldn't need big companies, people would produce everything on their own and own everything. They would own land and vote for what is build and then they would also own every company where they are employed and decide. The job of Communistic/fascistic/Nazi party is to educate people in laws, property laws and company laws before they vote, so education was nationalised, they would teach you about what your workplace needed and about laws. Capitalism on other hand wants you to be stupid and not know laws, so you can hire lawyers and other private companies who can swindle you and sell you property, which in Socialism was already owned all by people. Property in capitalism is actually originally owned by government, since it's them from who you originally buy and then trade further on, you have to wrestle through their trade laws and hungry sticky fingers. Japan for example has a lot of public schooling, which Americans tried to change since WW2, to break nationalism.

And I got trips, so take that!

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True, but we do need to get rid of public schools.

All private schools in USA are sponsored by Jews and prefer Jews. USA doesn't actually has public schools, you have only schools who are financed by public and limited controlled by government. Public schools should be 100% controlled by parents of specific town who paid for those schools and public schools should never have more room than town needs. Private schools are directly controlled by Jews in USA or Mexicans or Muslims, whoever pays for it and they all expand room capacity, since they want to maximize profit and import foreigners who pay fees.

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nah as long as there is no monopoly and all businesses are owned by a citizen in the country I don't see an issue.
I'd also have a "national" business in every sector to provide competition and jobs as long as it's managed correctly and doesn't stifle development of local businesses.

Also a a way that citizens can buy a "part" of a national company (infrastructure and production) to be able to use that ant turn into a private entity that they own. There can be a "bond" system where a part/% of the national company is privatized and "sold" to a citizen, if he can't afford it, he can pay back a % of profits he gains from the private business back to the national company until it's payed off. Transfer of ownership would be regulated so that monopolies and entities outside the nation can't have control.

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obviously all unchecked can be provided by the free market

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Fascism aka Socialism knows exactly what needs to be produced. Capitalism aka corrupt democracy doesn't knows what to be produced, so they can't predict imports/exports. You compete in capitalism(democracy), you produce shit not necessary needed and many things thrown away, it's not known what country will produce at end of the day. Big companies are about big profits, not what somebody needs. Do i need coca cola? You convinced with advertising we need to drink that shit everywhere. People would never drink just coca cola if they had a choice, they would create much better drinks and pick different drinks, instead of 1 brand obsession.

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>without water, internet and transportation
>money optional
>no safe food
So you are going to live like picture related?
Wouldn't expect less from El Goblino.

>hurr durr gonna grow food myself

First get out from your basement.

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Yea I agree with advertising being bad etc and the only information needed in one is a photo of the product by itself and whatever the details are like material/ingredients etc without "descriptive" text made to make the product look better.

I don't support "socialism" in the sense that the state takes money from people and gives it to others.

At most there should be taxes only for national things like roads connecting communities to each other etc. water, power, roads in communities can be managed and decided by the community themselves how they want to deal with it, whether they have water tanks that are refilled by subscription to a local water business, septic tanks emptied by another, roads with tolls (could be for everyone using them or for only outsiders to pay (those who aren't a part of the community that paid for it)), power can be locally generated by generators at each house maintained by subscription or generated locally with everyone paying etc.

Shittiest bate picture I've seen in a long time, most of the things on that list don't have shit to do with democratic socialism.

I can tell you exactly how production of a drink looked like in Socialism/fascism: school children would be mobilized by school to visit drink production companies who would have ordered to produce different drinks for testing and what children would pick that would be produced for children and appear on shelves next time and if people would buy it, then it would stay there. Coca Cola on other hand wants you to be stupid, the government of capitalism wants you to be stupid, they don't want you to know how drinks are made, they don't want you to taste different drinks, they want you to buy a brand, they advertise brand on television, sport events, even in education of your school, you learn Microsoft in school, so this company has obvious advantage forever, without any quality test. Then also American law system is totally different, they have court-dictated system, Socialism is a mix between civil law and communistic law, so everything is tested by people before becomes a law, since it involves public testing. Courts in USA don't need to test anything with people, they think they are experts and know everything better than people, but people then need to follow their laws, even if those ministers haven't even finished school in the profession they act minister as. In Socialism you can't be minister of agriculture if you didn't work as farmer for starters, you need practice knowledge and country will give you that, together with salary. You can go on education in capitalism and you will learn bullshit, nobody paying you jack shit, you work like a wageslave, eventually totally different shit than you learned, because brands of big companies dictate your destiny. Socialism dictates destiny of companies, collective town owners tell you when to produce and how much.

The only things that should be publicly financed are Military, Police and Border Patrol (which should actually be part of Police). Fucking statists

I think it's the private entities choice to consume what they want.
But they should be educated as well and not limited to few choices.

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They don't want you to know, so you need them, they only want you to know about their companies. There's absolutely no need for banks to give credits, bank should store money, not create it. Banks today are digitalized, they are all fake and their investments stink, literally creating money without producing anything physically. A guy poops out billion dollars through inflation/stocks or directly in USA, comes to any country who is connected to international banks and takes that money and buys things. Total scam.

>Big Bank Bailouts
>Corporate Subsidies
Are people really trying to pass these off as "positives" of democratic socialism?

>There's absolutely no need for banks to give credits, bank should store money, not create it. Banks today are digitalized, they are all fake and their investments stink, literally creating money without producing anything physically. A guy poops out billion dollars through inflation/stocks or directly in USA, comes to any country who is connected to international banks and takes that money and buys things. Total scam.
I know that mate, you don't need to tell me. Your pretty much preaching to the choir here.

>I made this

Rural retard here. Water is on a well. I'd rather pay tolls for nicer roads that I actually use and I don't get food from the government

>over half is fucking capitalism
>other half like police can be removed and replaced by local sheriffs
>privatize utilities

>Listen goyim by supporting the basic functions of government, the type of functions government excels at then you automatically support socialism and total government control.

>Fascism, socialism, monarchy and all other possible systems don't have military, public schools, border patrols, police etc
>The existence of Water and "Safe" Food is somehow dependent on the form of government
Well? You're not a moron, are you?

Big companies are all created by big money from banks, creating money out of thin air, what credits are and give that money to you so you can hire workers to build your big company. Then that bank pretends it is playing the song of people by asking that money back, so they can balance their invented fairy tales out to pretend to be legitimate. The fun starts when you can't pay back, then they own your company and eventually all land. Reality should be that every money bank creates is tied to physical work, which should never change. Never should the price of same tomato or same brick change, rest is just stacking up basic materials, building blocks and bank printing money when something is made. CEO being valued higher today than month ago is corruption. What does CEO do? Nothing, sits on his ass. Instructions are given to him by foreigner owner, who's missing is to destroy native companies, so his foreigner company can move into land and replace the native companies. Same story with privatized banks, always a bigger fish behind that wants to move inside after native things are destroyed.

are you a shill/bot?
Stop posting paragraphs of things I already told you I know about.

>if x, then y because of z
In other words, fuck off faggot, with your liberal arts degree (if you even have on) you will not be able to do 99% of that list

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time for some real fun

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That was neoliberalism

There's no point in having big companies, we can have a telecommunication company sliced up by towns, pointless to pay tariffs or import taxes. Bunch of modems/routers/switches and you have ISP, we can slice it up so that 100 people have their own ISP. That's good, since then when that small company fucks up that doesn't needs to influence everything. Poverty is a man-made construct, a construct made by banks. Big or huge company all the same shit, depends how something is valued. We can value biggest company the smallest.

We had all those with Franco except the internet adn cell phones for obvious reasons.

i'm willing to give up at least some of the shit on that list

>Removing some things means everything must go
OP confirmed for absolute retard. It should be legal to kill and eat retarded creatures like you but i guess we can't because we might catch whatever disease makes your mentally ill ass so god damn retarded.

Mexicans will come and create all that, including protect American borders from invasion of white Americans.

> Air travel
In which country are planes government-owned ?

Money is conservative and it fuels everything in that picture. What a hypocritcial image

Out of all of this, the only thing that has SOME merit of being in the public sphere (arguably) is
>Military
>Police
>Fire Protection
>Public Parks
>Border Patrol
And that's it.

I'm still mad the stupid nigger outright claims every single government exists cause commies.
this is why full on monarchism should be allowed, democracy is clearly cancer and retards like OP shouldn't be allowed anything but to be a serf.

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If African flies to USA by plane then maybe African government should be paid by American government, since that was the deal, you will only pay for tickets like a good goy to import tropical diseases and tropical people. Government if it was smart it would regulate where something can fly so you don't get too much AIDS. Government should also have extensive checks when plane land on its land.

Except they can't do the advanced stuff, why do you think they have no tanks? Also I know plenty of spics, they're dumb as shit

I see nothing on that list that wouldn't benefit from privatization

why not ban countries that are clearly a travel hazard? why the fuck should we have to pay for your nigger ass tyrone? why the hell do you even have internet, go die of ebola you stupid nigger.

You decided you need airplanes by free trade. Planes and roads aren't needed at all. You are way too thick inside of your own knot. First globalism on this planet was purposed by car producers. There's no need for planes and cars. Sure we can have international planes and transports, but not for 99.9% things we do nowadays. I wonder how we survived 60 years ago if all this was necessary. Oh right, we don't survive these days, it's rather reverse. You drive car and plane to destroy yourself in name of big companies who will eventually be replaced by nigger CEOs where whites used to be.

fite me fgt

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>t. hyper capitalist mongoloid
oh I see you try to stop civilzation from advancing to satisfy your greed? What? Other countries enjoy sovereignty and happiness, are getting rich from their resources and their united people?
BETTER STOP THEM

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Easy.

Big bank bailouts
Corporate subsidies
Federal disaster relief

You bail out banks because you have credits with them. Why do you have credits with them? It wouldn't matter to you if banks go bankrupt if you didn't had credits with them. Your debt is rising, keep bailing out.

>Firstly, the US is a republic fucknut.
The US government is a liberal, representative democracy operating within the framework of a constitutional republic.

> It's neither democratic (you have those electoral houses that aren't strictly bound to what anyone votes)
The Senate and House of Representatives are elected by direct popular vote. The electoral college was a hedge the aristocrats wanted to ensure they could game the Pres/vPres election if necessary, but its based on a popular voted by the party's chosen "electors" who loosely represent the people.

>nor is it socialist (you have more than one party, and the parties do not exist to implement the final 'perfect' system of communism).
You're talking about Political Socialism where all the private industries are nationalized, the markets are state-controlled and centrally planned.

Socialism is the public ownership of capital, and the means of production of public goods and services. Economic Socialism is the public sector of the economy making government goods and services available to the public. Regulations that "take" from the private sector are also a kind of socialism.


>Furthermore the state was created before marx put pen to paper, which makes it rather difficult for it to be socialist.
Socialism existed before it was known about.

>I see nothing on that list that wouldn't benefit from privatization
Water rights. Water moves from place to place. The people with the most capital will buy the source of the water, cut off everyone downstream, and then charged the dehydrating victims exorbitant prices for what used to be "free" water. There's only like a hundred examples where this is exact same water privatization has already happened.

power law keeps all that in place
>the internet
d.A.R.P.Anet
its the monotheist type of argument

Easy:
Air travel
Public schools
Big banks
Tv radio
Cellphones
Police
Fire
Libraries
Parks
Subsidies
Disaster relief
Internet
Safe food

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