Polytheism -> Judaism ?

You can destroy an idol but not God. You can kill a man but not his soul. "Religions", in their exterior form, are the same as idols. You can take away idol after idol but people will find new ones to worship. Unless they truly know God and know their soul. For then they will worship what cannot be destroyed.

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>how the jews invented god
and there we have it, the answer to the age old question atheist throw at us.
>YEA WELL IF GOD MADE US, THEN WHO MAD GOD
>HA
>THE JEWS MADE GOD. THATS WHY THEY ARE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE
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No. The Jews have worshipped Moloch for a long, long time.

it's a tricc question - judaism is defined as the oldest monotheistic religion. because i did not read the article like a lazyfag, i would rather consider development of the fertile crescent before delving into an israeli newspaper (like an autist readfag).

that being said, kabbalah started around the time of the renaissance with a mystical interpretation of the torah. go figga.

anyone with access to there college lan might be able to access libary resources to view the article in entirety and poast here for us poorfag nonjewfags

I was under the impression that Zoroastrianism predated judaism and that. That is where alot of the monotheistic belifs comefrom. Whats more having existed at the same time as myltiple polytheistic religion it is safe to assime the jewish god was nothing more than a patron god in a much larger pabtheon and this particular sect rose to power making at first their patron god dominant over the others then getting rid of the minor deities as they lost followers.

The modern Jewish faith was pushed upon the "jews" during the Babylonian captivity by Cyrus. Cyrus has a habit of conquering a people, praising their religions, and then changing them to support his goals. He did the same with Zoroastrianism, claiming it as a state religion, while instituting his own "magi" to interpret the laws to favor his own aims.

Judaism borrowed heavily from this bastardized Zoroastrianism, which is closer to kaballic mysticism.

The true zoroaster asked no sacrifices, and was the second known time that the spirit of Melchizidek manifested.

>did judaism start as polytheism?
No.
>provide source for your statement.
Burden of proof lies on the one making the claim.

god is a spook

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Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek; later, the Levites would receive tithes from their countrymen. Since Aaron was in Abraham's loins then, it was as if the Aaronic priesthood were paying tithes to Melchizedek. (Heb. 7:4-10)
The one who blesses is always greater than the one being blessed. Thus, Melchizedek was greater than Abraham. As Levi was yet in the loins of Abraham, it follows that Melchizedek is greater than Levi. (Heb. 7:7-10)
If the priesthood of Aaron were effective, God would not have called a new priest in a different order in Psalm 110. (Heb. 7:11)
The basis of the Aaronic priesthood was ancestry; the basis of the priesthood of Melchizedek is everlasting life. That is, there is no interruption due to a priest's death. (Heb. 7:8,15-16,23-25)
Christ, being sinless, does not need a sacrifice for his own sins. (Heb. 7:26-27)
The priesthood of Melchizedek is more effective because it required a single sacrifice once and for all (Jesus), while the Levitical priesthood made endless sacrifices. (Heb. 7:27)
The Aaronic priests serve (or, rather, served) in an earthly copy and shadow of the heavenly Temple, which Jesus serves in. (Heb. 8:5)

The Jewish covenant is no longer valid.

"Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he (Melchizedek) remains a priest forever."
Heb. 7:3

In addition to the god of abraham being part of a much larger pantheon makes sense nor does it contradict the old testament. Which is wriyten in a way that acknowledges that other gods indeed exist. Ot would be more interesting to look at polytheistic religions that predate judaism from the ancient world and seeing if they have a deity described like the god of abraham.

Well, yeah, he is called the Holy Spirit.

You can't be monotheistic if elohim is plural.

the whole jews award themselves trophies for being jewish idiocy gets rather boring.

he didn't make a claim he asked a question retard

>What is the Trinity?

spooks are spooks
spooky

Elohim? Im not a religous scholar. Just an autist that has had an intrest in the origins of tge abrahamic faiths.

Either he:

1) Was making a claim by asking a question, in which case the burden of proof is on him.
2) Was simply asking a question in which case the answer was: No. When he asks for a source, I will say that the one making the claim "polytheism predates Judaism" needs to provide the source for his claim, and lacking that, can be rejected out of hand.
Don't call me a retard if you can't even follow basic conversations yet.

There is only one God. If you choose to worship more than one, that's on you. I'm more interested in finding the site of the ancient city of Salem. I have a sneaking suspicion it's near the caucuses.

There is One God who is three Divine Persons.

They used to sacrifice children to moloch and have other gods. Now they sacrifice children to moloch and have one god

There is only one God, and the priest forever in the order of Melchizidek. This priesthood is granted by God throughout history. Melchizidek, zoroaster, and Jesus are all priests in this order.

>did you see my dog anywhere, it ran away
>yep
>okay, where did you see it
>uhhh burden of proof is on you buddy

I don't go for amateur-hour "exegesis"

Actually it's more like:
>Does polytheism predate Judaism?
>No
>Can you prove that?
>Can you prove that it did?
>But you're making the claim!
>I am making the claim that a lack of evidence is evidence of a lack. You obviously lack evidence that polytheism predated Judaism or you wouldn't be asking the question.

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It's not exegesis, it's literally spelled out in the text. Jesus is a priest forever in the order of Melchizidek.

why do they alays mention muh jews
those fucking parasites or the fucking parastical judea tribe always back stabbed the other tribes for sheckles

its not a jew god

THE FUCKING JEWS ADORE LUCIFER

chrisitanity is based on the Isrealite god not the jew on that the talmud and pharsises prasie

for the sakes of fucks Jesus was based on a different tribe rather than the nation of judea

there is 12 or 13 fucking tribes

ou cant have muh iSREAL with one tribe
where the fucck are the srest of the tribes for this ziuonist kike jew shiled state?

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Do you know what that actually means?
Because it don't mean what you obviously think it means.

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>166548524

christ is antizionist

thats why the fucking book of revelations redpill you of the fucking jews and their lonw awaited messiah; the fucking false fucking prohpet

JUDAISM = LUCIFER

judaism hates chrisitnaity

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this. and if you get into gnostic texts it is said that the god of the jews and the god of christ are different. the god of the jews is the demiurge.

good lord

parden my france

Was it polytheistic? No
Did it acknowledge the existence of other Gods? Maybe

So there's two things which off the top of my head, I can think of in which the bible suggest other gods do exist. Both are in the book of exodus. One would be when Moses confronted the Egyptian priests, and both their staffs, and Moses's staff turned to serpents, and then Moses's serpent consumed the Egyptian's serpents. Obviously this would imply the presence of an Egyptian deity.

The other would be the first commandment which states "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This implies that one could still have other gods, and even worship them, but they cannot be placed higher than God.

the axial revolution outlines the point in history where most populations converted from poly->mono. if judaism has no poly, then they are the one true religion they have the best jeans and best genes hail jewry

Yes OP, yahwehism is considered 'henotheism' by scholars. This later grew into second temple judaism and eventually into current day rabbinical judaism that many considered monotheistic. It's origins are not monotheistic but henotheistic.

Read Michael Heiser (christian scholar) works about divine plurality and the divine council of the elohim.

Its fascinating stuff

not maybe though but for sure. Read about the divine council.

>The other would be the first commandment which states "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This implies that one could still have other gods, and even worship them, but they cannot be placed higher than God.
This is probably the biggest thing which makes me think the god of abraham was infact a god of a larger pantheon earlier in its existence.
For this kind of montheism to occur gods would be gods of people/tribes not gods of things. No sun god etc etc.

The bible (OT in particular) often talks about God (YHWH) greatness 'OVER the other Gods'. His greatness is compared to others in the pantheon.

This is not new or revolutional thought, but people just don't know anything about the pre-rabbinical times (and near middle eastern religions and pantheons) and assume that the stories the jews put out today are the same as what moses believed, which is bs.

One, also has to consider the fact that things are left out of the bible. For instance, after the events of Revelations, Christ is to rule for 1000 years, but it's left open as to what happens after that. Obviously, since there is a hard time limit, it's implied that there will be something after that, but it's never stated.

ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/during-the-thousand-year-reign-of-christ-what-will

>Christ is to rule for 1000 years
800ad - 1806ad

There was a point in time after Jesus' death that Christians AND Jews considered christians as a sect of Judaism, and Christians attended synagogues.
Then Jews started persecuting Christians, those attempting to spread the christian beliefs, killing St. Stephen, then corrupted Jew rabbis, the exact kind of people jesus warned about, started claiming rando jewish leaders - were Messiah's - Most famously Bar Kochem - leader of the 2nd Jewish revolt - who was an absolute fucking failure who murdered christians who denied him being a messiah despite the fact that Christians had more reasons to hate the Romans than any other sect and were more than willing to fight Bar Kochem failed so hard to the Romans almost all the Jewish population was killed -around the time of the 2nd Temple/2nd Jewish revolt against Rome.

This was the true first Schism.

After that Jews continued to persecute Christians, Christians allied with Romans, eventually converting Rome, forming the Byzantine Empire as Western and somewhat Christianized Rome began to fall apart

The Jews then further revised the Talmud and the Christians were affirmed as Goyim

All the gods of the Gentiles are devils
Psalm 96:5

It accepts that demons exist and work "magic" but it does not accept them as divine.

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Judaism is a religion that has changed more than Christianity has ffs. The Jews and their religion had been subverted and edited by their conquerors so many damned times, and then after the exile, and then as Jews spread out into Europe, North Africa and Eastern Europe/Eurasia.

Let's not even forget that that Christians weren't even considered Goyim until later additions to the Talmud, written hundreds of years after Christ's death.

FFS it's been theorized that Islam was formed by descendants of several of the lost Jewish Tribes (ie Mohammed and his followers) who were theorized to have traveled eastwards in exile

Yes, Abraham was born in the city of Urr, ~2000-3000BC, during the third dynasty of Urr within the Sumerian empire which was founded ~5000-6000BC.

His father, Terah, was allegedly a polytheistic priest, who would have been literate in Sumerian cuneiform script. He was one of the chief ministers of King Nimrod of Babylon. Nimrod, after hearing from his priests, that Abraham would one day become a great king, orders Terah to bring him his son to be killed. He instead is given a slave child, so Abraham grows up in secret.

It makes sense that Abraham, after taking his extended family to the land of Canaan, adopted many of the customs and mythology of the more dominant cultures, and invented monotheism.

The Sumerian creation myth and their myth of the great flood are identical to the jewish myths.

chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/112063/jewish/Abrahams-Early-Life.htm

haplogroups.org/haplogroup-j1-is-not-semitic

answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/abraham-and-the-chronology-of-ancient-mesopotamia/

Abraham didnt invent monotheism. Monotheism is not mentioned in the Bible. Oneness of God =/= monotheism. Its that there is one God who rules all and to whom worship is due.

Funny how those Gods are never mentioned. Also, that the false Gods which are mentioned are called 'no gods', God doesn't deny that they are worshipped but denies their ability to act. Idols of stone and wood are utterly derided as impotent, and 'dungy'. Worship of the queen of the heavens is condemned. There was no pantheon, there were false Gods and 1 true God. Any worship of any other deity was liable with the death penalty. It seems clear really what the truth is.

>The Sumerian creation myth and their myth of the great flood are identical to the jewish myths.

Absolute and utter rubbish.

And the more is spoken about haplogroups, the more sceptical I am that knowledge of certain genetic markers has any value. It might describe a relationship, one specific ancestor amongst 1000s, but that doesn't mean much. What significance does 1/1000 of your genetics have?

>Synagogue of Satan lying about God

Oy vey fellow goyim atheism is best ism, look what the Jews say about it!

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