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Seems a bit redundant on Jow Forums but, yeah ok.
sad you do not know the difference between "question" and "lie about"
you can question a all you like. no problem. And the true answers are available.
you just cannot lie about it.
Who decides what's true?
We do know the difference between question and lie about, yet even questioning the holocaust will result in some sort of punishment, thankfully not here, we can say whatever we want about the kikes here.
Jews are America's best friend . As a proud american it makes me SICK to see this blatant antisemitism by nazis on here and pure denial of the worse planned mass murder in history! Denying the holocaust is like denying the sky is blue. Go outside , get some fresh air and ask yourself are you really denying the holocaust happend ? 6 MILLION INNOCENT MAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN. It makes me SICK to read this. I'm gonna donate 100$ to my local synagogue just to spite you racists. Trump isn't even racist at all and the closest friend and ally Israel's ever had. He even has 5 kids who all married jews and all Jewish grandchildren . But you low iq rural and suburban retards didn't even know that .
well some things are well documented. so for instance in your graphic the soap story was a lie initially spread by the Nazis which people believed
The human heads were real, but they were anthropological specimens from headhunters collected before the war - this was discovered by historians in the 1950's and anyone who is honest will tell you that , and they have never been part of the historical narrative since.
Same for the lampshade - it turned out to be goatskin, but the guards had said it was human skin - a threat to the inmates
Steam chambers and electric floors were rumors during the war - they turned out to be untrue (as many rumors do) although they had justification - masses of people went into rooms and died, no one knew how, but those were good possibilities.
The report that mentioned steam listed it as a possibility - it also mentioned exhaust fumes and poison gas as possibilities - two out three were right.
I think it is wrong to call those lies - they were understandable mistakes that no one has given any credit to for over sixty years.
the rollercoaster and the anus pump are fables. People make shit up, especially in stress situations. Stories get told and distorted - probably the people telling them believed them, but they are obviously wrong: no historian has ever given them any weight.
the peddle driven brain bashing machine however is not a lie. That is actually a really stupid distortion of the story by some idiot denier. The story they are trying to ridicule is clearly an account of a a humane killer captive bolt gun, as used in abattoirs. It was probably pneumatic, or possibly solenoid driven, and triggered by a footswitch. This is standard equipment for killing cattle from the period - there is no reason to think it would not have worked very well on people, and good reason to think it was used at Sachsenhausen.
making up a silly name for it to ridicule the idea is just deceptive and suggests a lack of thought.
This one honestly looks better in black face. The rue form revealed looks like it lurks in caves - waylaying spelunkers and lusting after rings of power...
>Jew hate thread
This is a Jew hate board.
always remember to boycott every jewish enterprise
>even questioning the holocaust will result in some sort of punishment,
that is simply untrue.
i know that deniers like to portray themselves as persecuted truth tellers, but they are not persecuted if they tell the truth - if they make claims that are backed up with evidence.
the history is under constant revision as new things are discovered asn old things re-interpreted - iti snot a problem.
what gets you in trouble is when you tell lies like "there were no gas chambers" or "there Einsatzgruppen never killed anybody" or "the red cross had access to all the camps all through the war and have a complete record of all the people who died asn they say there were no gas chambers asn only 270,000 people died in total"
all those are lies that deniers have been prosecuted for and for which they had to admit they had no evidence to support them.
would that be because as the article says five to six million people were victims of governmental antisemitism in Europe at that time?
that was the case. that was the fact.
what do you want them to do, change the number to something else because they are clairvoyant about the impending death of five and a half million or so Jews in Europe and it would look bad in seventy years of they had predicted it?
Personally speaking i don't deny the holocaust, i believe it was a good thing and should have been on a bigger scale.
Very antisemitic
there is no logical contradiction in wanting to drive the jews from Germany (and not minding at all if they died) and having a policy of persecuting them and having them leave (and making a lot of money out of it) before the war, so "despite" is hardly the right word.
it didn't take him 8 years to get started - it took 8 years until he had the opportunity. Mass murdering jews in 1933 would have been difficult to do and he would have been deposed. Or started a war. Once at war however, all bets changed.
Killing them locally is bad for three reasons. it upsets the locals adn encourages resistance. ittips off the other jews that they are to be killed, so they resist (you cannot kill them all on one day, word gets round) you have to dispose of bodies everywhere, and you have to get someone to do it - a central processing factory that kills and disposes of the bodies efficiently is better, also do it far away from anyone's view. and of course you do not kill them all immediately - you select the fit for slave labour and just kill the children and the old and the unfit. But in the eastern provinces - estonia to the crimea - just shoot them, as you suggest.
Mass murdering them in france would have been hard to cover up and would have caused massive resistance problems. The french nearly rose after Oradour you know.
yes some jews were used to help kill the others. Also non jews. Imagine you are given the choice - help drag the bodies to the ovens, or go into the gas chamber yourself. personally I would get dragging. It is what people do - personal survival overcomes a lot of moral doubts.
actually there were thousands of guards at Auschwitz, and at each of the other camps, and the Einsatzgruppen had over 40,000 men at their disposal
claiming they used "almost no german manpower" is simply false and I suspect comes from ignorance - the person writing this has obviously done no research.
of course not all the victims were gassed
Honestly, he looks more human with dark skin because it hides his fucked up red eyelids and general signs of cirrossis
not all were gassed and not all cremated in ovens - which were not ultra hot
the cremation ovens at Auschwitz were large muffles, some of them three muffles per oven, so fifteen openings in the Crematoria 2 and 3. these could take multiple bodies at a time, and once the flesh is burned away and just bones remain, there is plenty of room to put in more - so a reload every twenty minutes to half an hour.
given they were in the middle of a coalfield adn beside a huge coal processing plant that converted hundreds of thousands of tonnes of coal to rubber and coal oil, there was no great shortage of fuel. It isn't like they used diesel or air craft grade petrol for it.
and they had millions of slaves. and when they started the mass killings they thought they were winning. so the sweary bit at the end is just being silly and unnecessary. .
and as is so often pointed out - not all the camps had mass murder apparatus - most of the camps were labour camps.
and they also destroyedthe major gas chambers at Auschwitz to cover their tracks a few months before the allies arrived - again using slave labour (which had built them) so the presence of a few survivors from the millions of slave laborers is not surprising.
had they won the war on the other hand....
Your efforts are useless shill, go be a kike somewhere else.
This kills the kike shill lying about historical revisionism. Holohoax never happened faggot.
yes these are articles about the jews of Russia adn theor problems - adnd guess how many jews lived in russia?
so what do you expect them to do in 1904 when they talk about how many jews are in Russia? Look in their crystal ball and say "Oy Vey, an idiot in 2018 is going to think that it is a conspiracy if we keep saying six million, even though there are six million of us, we must change the number!"
also you are cherry picking.
Fuck lying jews, don't believe their lies when there is more evidence it prove the holohoax never happened than to suggest it did.
No one cares you lying jew you're on Jow Forums and look retarded.
could I just point out that most historians say it is 5.5-5.7 million?
Truth fears no evidence but the jews really feared evidence.
Oy, Goy! Eat my soy!
why is it always the jews i want of this ride
>there is more evidence it prove the holohoax never happened than to suggest it did.
so you have what? half a dozen crap infographics and a pile of ignorance on your side, and I have literally tonnes of documents and archaeology and witnesses and blueprints and photos and every historian in the world on mine.
yeah, I think your "more evidence" line is as shitty as your graphic.
the first people murdered in that room were Russian PoWs, not jews. they were marched in naked and driven in with whips. No fucking about choosing doors to take.
it took two days to burn them in the adjacent ovens. as a result of this - which was a temporary experimental use of the chamber - they quickly stopped using it for this purpose. they moved to a little farmhouse - bricked up the windows and put a solid door on it - and gassed them there, and burned the bodies on pyres. They had another farmhouse they also used, before they built the 4 large purpose built undressing room, gas chamber adn crematorium complex 2 kilometers away at Brikenau
this was an early experimental gas chamber - basically a handy room by the ovens - not purpose built, and soon not used because they deeloped a real system of industrialised murder.
did you not know that?
or are you lying? which is it ignorance or dishonesty, because there is no other excuse for posting this shit.
second most retarded infographic commonly posted by deniers on Jow Forums
because of course they buried them sitting up in tiered rows of seating with hot dog stands asn toilets. around a sports pitch.
or maybe they burned them and reduced them to a pile of ash the size of three tennis courts and twenty feet deep, which they buried in the huge mass graves tht have been discovered.
I understand completely why some jews see goyim as cattle. They are completely entitled to drones and ass kissers like this
learn to law. these provisions do not mean what you think they mean.
Nuremberg rules
This a somewhat lengthy read so i'll quote the highlight(s), full page for you to read here:
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com
On Article 19:
So the reason for the absence of technical rules of evidence at the Nuremberg Trial of German Major War Criminals was clearly not anyone’s intention to screw the defendants, as their "Revisionist" apologists would like to believe. The American jurists wanted to apply technical rules of evidence such as were applied in the US, but this approach was disliked by the jurists from Continental Europe involved in the making of the Charter, presumably for the simple reason that they and/or the Continental European judges nominated as members of the International Military Tribunal didn’t know a thing about US-type rules of evidence and accordingly would have been unable to handle them at the trial. The Americans decided to compromise, as said rules «were involved in response to the peculiarities of trial by jury» and they thus saw no reason to urge the use of these rules «in an international trial before professional judges». This compromise, as Mr. Kaschner pointed out, arguably benefited the defense insofar as none of the German lawyers acting as defense attorneys was familiar with technical rules of evidence as applied in the US.
At the later trials before the Nuremberg Military Tribunal, which were a purely American affair, this compromise was no longer necessary, however. This was probably the reason why, for instance, the Einsatzgruppen Trial was conducted in accordance with US rules of evidence, as mentioned by Yale F. Edeiken in his recommendable article An Introduction to the Einsatzgruppen.
On Article 21:
While the above shows that there is nothing sinister about a provision allowing the IMT to take judicial notice of facts of common knowledge rather than require proof of such facts, this doesn't mean that the mass murder at Nazi extermination camps could be considered a fact of common knowledge already at the time of the Nuremberg Trial of German Major War Criminals in 1945/46, when criminal justice authorities were only beginning to investigate these crimes. Accordingly, and contrary to what Mr. "Bergmann" claims, the IMT did not pronounce these crimes to be facts of common knowledge and simply take judicial notice thereof, but looked at evidence regarding the occurrence and scale of these crimes.
Evidence regarding Auschwitz-Birkenau and/or Treblinka brought before and assessed by the IMT included the following:
• a communication to Himmler dated 16 December 1942 by Mueller, for the Chief of the Security Police and SD (document R-91)
• an affidavit made in London by Dr. Rudolph Kastner, a former official of the Hungarian Zionist Organization, regarding the deportation of the Hungarian Jews in 1944 (document 2605-PS)
• an official Polish report on Auschwitz Concentration Camp (document l-161)
• an official United States government report issued by the Executive Office of the president of the United States, War Refugee Board, on the German camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau (document L-22)
• the affidavit of Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess dated 5 April 1946 (document 3868-PS)
• the testimony of Marie Claude Vaillant-Couturier
• the testimony of Severina Shmaglevskaya
• the testimony of Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess
• the Stroop-Report (document 1061-PS)
None of this evidence would have been required it the IMT had simply taken judicial notice of the mass killings at Auschwitz-Birkenau and Treblinka as facts of common knowledge. The "Revisionist" claim under examination is false, just like the others before.
>the peddle driven brain bashing machine however is not a lie. That is actually a really stupid distortion of the story by some idiot denier. The story they are trying to ridicule is clearly an account of a a humane killer captive bolt gun, as used in abattoirs. It was probably pneumatic, or possibly solenoid driven, and triggered by a footswitch. This is standard equipment for killing cattle from the period - there is no reason to think it would not have worked very well on people, and good reason to think it was used at Sachsenhausen.
where's the evidence a cattle gun was used?
>no historian has ever given them any weight.
I've heard that all of these things you mention in your post were part of the maisntream narrative and lots of the survivor's stories until about the 70's
>which they buried in the huge mass graves tht have been discovered.
can I see a mass grave and its contents please?
>and they also destroyedthe major gas chambers at Auschwitz to cover their tracks a few months before the allies arrived
then how do we know it was there in the first place? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm completely open to their being evidence they did this and I'm honestly wondering what it could be.
God, it really sucks the holocaust never happened.
>where's the evidence a cattle gun was used?
there is a good description of it, by an eye witness and the room in which it was used fits the description . It is not conclusive -
however the other descriptions of what happened there (by guards and inmates who were not eye witnesses) confirm that people were murdered in that room, but they claim they were shot in the back of the neck. the thing is that there are no bullet marks in the opposite wall - you would expect some misses or pass throughs which would leave marks on the tiles.
A bolt gun wouldn't do that
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- and also all the witnesses said that the system was to have the victims lined up in the next room to go in - you would think they would notice the bang noises.
My point is that although we do not know if a cattle gun was actually used, the person who is trying to make it sound like a ridiculous claim by calling it a "peddle powered brain basher" is doing so quite deceptively.
it might not exist at all, but there is no reason to attempt ridicule when it just makes you the one who looks ridiculous.
Fuck off French Kike shill
>File: 4 5 7 million.jpg
>"cherry picking."
>"y-y-y-y-you the one who looks-s-s r-r-r-ridiculous!!"
>also in another holocaust denial tread
Hi, V.
Didnt know you where french!
Still enjoying MLP? :^)
>I've heard that
who from?
historians were not saying these things -
I will give you that lots of others said them - I heard the same sort of things in school in the 1970's, but to be honest school text books are not usually written by historians. they are made up by history teachers who take a shallow view, and give bullet point compressed ideas.
real historians were asking the hard questions from the start, and they dismissed a lot of the shit that became a sort of pop-history mythos. (not surprising - it was a big story to tell - I bet that there are lots of people now who say that it was Saddam who did the 9/11 and Iraqis who flew the planes - shit gets mixed up pretty quickly.)
or look at biology textbooks that have those crappy drawings of the evolution of the horse - you still see them - implying that the fossils are in a particular sequence and each is ancestor to the others - it is bullshit that no evolutionary biologist has held as true for nearly a hundred years but the text book makers keep using it
my point is just because the pop mythos says something does not make it true, or make the real truth untrue.
the holocaust happened - just not all the stories are true (and it is usually easy to spot the implausible ones)
sure, but you have to come to Europe
we have the blueprints, we have photos of them being built, we have photos of them completed. the ruins are still there, we have photos of them being demolished (and yes they do test positive for cyanide - Leuchter was wrong)
I thought Jordan was best buddies with Israel unless this is a proxy.
Hi, V.
Switching tactics i see.
How long have you lived in france?
oh dear. Someone who knows about V but hasn;t heard of me?
I'm, the french kike.
actually I am a brit living in france and part time working here to try to save the UK economy from self inflicted harm, but I am not jewish.
HAH my ass!
sure!
please just go to the archive and look far any holocaust thread and find lots of me posting.
sometimes even at the same time as V
but be assured I will never call you "sweetie"
Saying "sweetie' makes your points 10 times more legit. Also wtf are you even trying to convey with that?
its a female jew shill that comes into every holocaust denial tread for months now.
she gets payed to "correct the record".
V = the french shill in the thread. She knows shes been exposed.
tfw the frog kike genuinely managed to slide this tread
V calls people sweetie. I don't.
try this
Instead of hating them we should learn from them, see how they were able to get so much power and influence and use that knowledge to further our countries and culture.
also
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Historians do. And they universally agree that the holocaust happened.
There is debate about the scale, the total number of people killed, the organization of it all but universal agreement that it took place.
Come to my country, visit some of the KZ-sites, try and have some empathy.
Or just keep pretending that the jews made it up with the help of soviet communist and keep wondering why nobody will ever take you seriously.
the idea that they would build these crematoria and not use them is ridiculous - but the fact they also needed to use pyres because the crematoria were not big enough, and they had plans to build more, suggests that the numbers of dead were huge - far too many for normal camp life and death. (Auschwitz had eight times as many crematoria ovens as any other camp of its size - it really stands out as unusually well equipped - far more oven capacity than any normal camp would need)
Good goy ! in fact... The goodest of all goyim !
they supposedly could do 4756 bodies a day, but this was not often reached because they closed the little crema 1, and they had occasional problems with the others because of over use -
and yes, they did have gas tight doors on the rooms...
deniers lie a lot about that.
Bringing up this also upsets them.
Mathew 27:25
"Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."
also the best one
pic related.
or maybe someone who has read some history and knows some facts?
I updated your shill picture a bit, what do you think V?
I've never seen a video be so weirdly inaccessible without being flat out removed
>can't watch embeded
>have to sign into an account
>have to approve 3 separate warnings before I could hit play
also I've never had a video take so long to buffer, damn jews
dumbest thing I ever read. Ofc you can´t start gassing everybody right away. Hitler and his allies were smart enough to understand that.
They started with the Reichtagsfeuer-Decree and the first people to be imprisoned were political opponents (SPD, KPD etc.)
In March 1933 the KZ Dachau was established. I´ve actually been there two times, and Dachau was not an extermination camp - more similar to a gulag.
In the same year the number of jews allowed to attend public schools was limited and non-aryans were banned from working as journalists (Editors law)
Also, look up the nuremberg laws. Anybody seriously claiming that hitler merely "encouraged jewish emigration" is either completely uninformed, or - more likely - a bigot hatemongering about the oldest scapegoat ever while ignoring the acutal causes of our modern problems.
Now, I don´t know anybody who said that 6 million were gassed. Sure, a lot of people were gassed, but most died from the (deliberately) horrible conditions in the KZ´s.
That´s just a few points though. I encourage you to seek out some actual historians and read some peer-reviewed work about the holocaust instead of having nazi propaganda be your only source about this shit.
Bruh you need to step your game up I already proved everything you say is lies here >> That whole movie proves the German's never mass killed the jews or anyone for that matter.
>no mass graves
>"mass graves" that were found only had evidence of a few hundred people
>no ash or millions of bones
>no millions of teeth
>no warehouses to store millions of pounds of wood to cremate the bodies
>Eichman confession disproves holohoax
>Gurstein confession disproves holohoax
>Suchomel confession disproves holohoax
>The Rudolf report
>Fred Luechter report
You're such a fucking faggot get fucked you stupid jew kike, try again though you desperate fuck.
No means no! Stay the fuck out of our countries. Beg the arabs to take you back, but they won't. How does it feel to be the most reviled race in history?
these fucking jews were the communists
they still are
It proves the holohoax never happened with 100% certainty. It points out every ridiculous and impossible situation the jews have passed as fact by using math and physics, it bases all of his argument off of historical "evidence" in published books that are used as evidence to argue in favor of the holohoax. He out jews the jews with their own evidence.
-=Zyklon B tested on humans=-
>hooktube.com
-=A Short History of Zyklon B on the US-Mexican Border (1920s)=-
>counterpunch.org
-=Extra Info=-
>It's not surprising because if the Nazis had intended to use gas to exterminate people, far more efficient gases were available. Zyklon-B is very inefficient except when used as a fumigation agent, which is the reason why it was used to disinfect clothings. Germans are well known for their planning, precision and efficiency. They would never choose an inefficient method to kill like that. Zyklon-B was a commercially available insecticide that was available all over Europe and used in the camps for disinfection.
the small image is from a train crash in Dresden, Ohio from 1912
whatcha doin rabbi?
not available in my country trying hooktube
This fucking jew is hoping you can't read german.
see this 1899 article. these fucking kikes always say 6 gorrillion!
>"apples are blue"
>doesn't get sent to jail
>he have evidence
haha no you fucking don't holy fuck you kikes are bold
nope, I have a foreskin
I love it though that your arguments are solely ad hominem and you have nothing else to say
here have some historical documents to read
I think the author of the site may be jewish, but he has collected some good stuff
I think she will be very amused.
I think it is hilarious you are persisting with this crap.
do you think it actually makes any point at all?
Good afternoon, rabbi.
what is it called, and who is it by - I am having trouble seeing it.