Jow Forums, I have supported the Second Amendment my whole life but it’s time for reasonable gun control. As a libertarian, I don’t want to surrender individual liberties to a government that failed at so many pivotal points of the Parkland shooting
However, the past few years have showed me that it's time to re-evaluate our priorities. There needs to be comprehensive universal background checks and no more loopholes for gun-show sales and person-to-person transfers of firearms and bans on high capacity magazines.
In exchange for gun owners' compromise on these issues they will get to keep any guns that are deemed appropriate.
>I have supported the Second Amendment my whole life but it’s time for reasonable gun control >they will get to keep any guns that are deemed appropriate. >STILL thinking that criminals, gang members, or government traffickers respect background checks Come and take it, faggot.
>As a libertarian, I don’t want to surrender individual liberties to a government that failed at so many pivotal points of the Parkland shooting
>However, the past few years have showed me that it's time to re-evaluate our priorities
You're not and have never been a libertarian, faggot. Statistically, we're safer now than we have been in the last 30 years. The only thing that has changed between now and then is that the media is firmly in the pocket of the US government and both sides--republican and democrat--want the populous disarmed, so the media pushes for it very bigly. The former just pretends like it doesn't want gun control because it relies on that voter base. They're hoping dumb fucks like you will turn over your guns willingly "for the good of the people."
>as a libertarian i want the goverment to have a complete monopoly on force
You are a cuck not a libertarian
Cooper Russell
>Libertarian Fuck off, meme lab.
Connor Roberts
Fuck off cuck.
Blake Torres
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Dylan Davis
Call me a cuck all you want but you are the real cucks here. You are just sitting by watching America get fucked by thug gun owners.
Christopher White
80% of firearm deaths are gang related you retarded halfwit.
Levi Price
It is almost like a gang, isn't it? Gun owners refusing to come to the table and using threats of overthrowing the government does, at least in my eyes, make them a gang.
Evan Martin
No you dumb cunt. It is literally gangbangers killing each other in gun free zones run by people as retarded as you.
Americans aren't going to disarm themselves because you can't keep your pets in line.
Jeremiah Gomez
Restricting magazines is useless You literally put a bolt on the magazine that can be pulled out with pliers to lower the capacity If someone was going to shoot up a place do you think a bolt would stop them?
Did you know that seagulls eat the corn out of sewage treatment plant ponds
Jayden Myers
No, it's in case the 4 methheads coming in through the windows all have HiPoints, you simpering Communist.
Wyatt Torres
Magazine restrictions make shooters more accurate because the weapon is much lighter. This is true for both long arms and pistols.
Benjamin Myers
That is gross but it is just more proof that we need to restrict guns because of the corn.
John Thomas
>There needs to be comprehensive universal background checks What good will these do? Most mass shooters haven't committed a crime until they start shooting.
>and no more loopholes for gun-show sales There are none.
>and person-to-person transfers of firearms Why should I need permission from the government to sell a firearm to another person? You call yourself a Libertarian?
>and bans on high capacity magazines. Whatever for? It's a piece of plastic or polycarbonate for holding bullets. They're trivial to make and can even be 3D printed to reasonable effectiveness. The only people you're going to be hurting with this are people who already obey the law. And for that matter, what do you consider to be "high capacity"? Standard capacity magazines are 30 rounds. Drum magazines, which can hold more, are not as commonly used because of their greater potential to jam.
Ryder Smith
What kind of mass shooter goes for accuracy over firepower? He's a maniac not a sniper
The kind that escapes or is full martyr mode & only cares about the moments high score
Anthony Sanchez
Remember when a lefty starts going about: >muh 2nd is for hunting That lefty hates hunting just as much as guns.
Adrian Wilson
>What kind of mass shooter goes for accuracy over firepower? The exact kind that uses an intermediate cartridge rifle instead of a full size cartridge. Cruz, for instance, used 10-round mags. >kind of odd since there's at least one 18-round burst on audio recording.
Colton Martin
>in case the deer starts shooting back How about "In case there's more than one deer, or follow up shots are required for a humane kill"
>In exchange for gun owners' compromise Oh, is this fucking bait? Even non-Americans can easily interpret the 2nd amendment, why do you have such a hard fucking time of it?
>Shall not be infringed Do you fucking understand what each of these words mean?
There already are universal background checks, and you'd know that if you were an actual gun owner.
> no more loopholes for gun-show sales
That's a myth that everyone who's ever been to a gun show knows. There is no such thing as the gun-show loophole.
>person-to-person transfers of firearms
These make up less than 1% of Firearms transactions and are rarely ever used in crimes, this would stop nothing.
>bans on high capacity magazines.
This would stop nothing as you can switch to another 10 round magazine in under 2 seconds if you know what you're doing. BTW 30 round magazines are Standard Capacity not "High Capacity"
>I’m a libertarian, but I think we should have fewer freedoms and be less capable of defending our own liberty It’s like you aren’t even trying anymore.
It was in reference to the more recent mass shootings, retard
Brayden Parker
Let me follow up with the fact that hunting deer with 5.56 is ILLEGAL in much of the US. It's to light a cartridge to reliably take them down. >inb4 lung shots from Montanans.
Nolan Green
The way demographics are going, combined with the non-stop (((ANTI-WHITE narrative))) barrage, you're gonna need those 30 rounds Goy.
Also, I'm not sure how the hell you consider yourself a Libertarian. The entire point of the Libertarian political philosophy is that while government is a necessary evil, it is still fundamentally evil and must therefore be restricted as much as possible except for a few tasks which fall within its role. A government's job is to safeguard the people's liberties, provide a method of recourse when those liberties are violated (courts) and provide for a common national defense (the military). To provide these services, it must perform an evil action - theft (or as it is commonly referred to, taxation). To ask anything more of it is to ask for it to perform even greater evil.
The second amendment exists as a means to contain the evil of government. If they step too far out of line, the Sword of Damocles falls upon their heads and we restart the government back at square one. While democracy is an ideal means of keeping the evil at bay, it is insufficient, as the masses are not fundamentally good either, and will elect a dictator if it is convenient.
Why would you ever want to allow the government to perform more evil, just so that the very safeguards we have created to contain its evil will be destroyed? You're not a Libertarian at all, are you?
Robert Bailey
Oh, shit I'm sorry. What arbitrary timeframe does my example have to fit into to score in your high speed goalposts?
BTW 30 round magazines are Standard Capacity
Also this, literally the NATO standard
Asher Carter
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Adrian Long
or when your ex husband violates the restraining order and he is trying to kick in your front door to kill you and the kids
Landon Jenkins
With the current heated debate over gun rights and the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution (which serves to affirm our natural rights…rights we have whether the State recognizes them or not), I thought it might be interesting to talk briefly about the Battle of Athens. If you’re like a lot of people, you probably haven’t heard about this event. I know I hadn’t until a few years ago, which is kind of surprising, considering how much the media and the left constantly drone on over various historical “milestones” revolving around identity politics (race, gender, social justice, etc.). But I guess this doesn’t really fit the narrative, as it revolves around the South, and regular folks resisting their local government – and perhaps even a form of the Police State – through exercising their right to keep and bear arms.
The Battle of Athens, which happened August 1-2, 1946 in McMinn County, Tennessee, was the result of some 3000 veterans returning home at the end of World War II. Unhappy with the roughshod political corruption, fraud, control over newspapers, schools and police “fee gathering” that had been going on in McMinn County while they were away from home – with even a couple of servicemen shot and killed by the police while home on leave – these guys decided to do something about it. So like any sensible group of people would do, they organized and decided to run a number of nonpartisan candidates for positions in the local government.
However, the local sheriff and the political machine evidently felt threatened by such activity, and brought in 200 armed deputies to intimidate people at the polls. Former veterans were beaten, and one poll watcher was reportedly shot. After multiple other incidents, the sheriff opted to take the ballot boxes to the jail for counting.
Much of the McMinn County citizenry smelled a rat (so to speak), and the former vets surrounded and laid siege to the jail after gathering up firearms and ammo. After gunfire was exchanged, the GIs dynamited the jail during the early hours of August 2 and forced the occupants inside to surrender. After posting guards to secure the ballots, the votes were counted and the corrupt government leaders were voted out.
Miraculously, no-one was killed – although there were quite a number who were seriously injured and required hospitalization. However, the people of McMinn County, Tennessee were once again free to enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Something they might not have been able to do if the citizens were only armed with sling-shots and squirt guns. So…still confused as to why guys like Thomas Jefferson believed that the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and that it shouldn’t be infringed upon by the government was and is considered such an important thing?
>What mass shooters are snipers? >given literal example of 'sniper' >d-doesn't count! >memeflag!
So uh, what was your fucking point again?
Mason Russell
Why does the military need 30 rounds?
Cooper Turner
>2A is for hunters Gas yourself, senpai.
Easton Sullivan
>Jow Forums, I have supported the Second Amendment my whole life...blah blah blah This is a lie (which I did not read past) and you are a shill. Fuck off, shill.
Ian Nelson
what a fucking leaf
Nicholas Wilson
California has stricter gun laws than Canada, Switzerland and the Czech Republic.
Benjamin Baker
LOL ever cop their was a failure would much rather have other people with guns int their
only after not visiting Jow Forums for a few days, I finally realized that its literally anons baiting eachother for (You)s and find the illusion that somebody is even more stuipid then them amusing, not realizing they acctually only seek confirmation of their superiority by creating low quality copy pasta bait threads.
>mfw this even led to several people acctually believing that there are paid shills on this board >mfw I literally unironicly believe in meme magic
God dammit will this acctually turn into a politics discussion board some day?
