Jow Forums communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=FnxBSYnAr74
macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
youtube.com/watch?v=PmmOQbsTmCA
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

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National Trotskyism is better.

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COMMIE GETS REKT
youtube.com/watch?v=FnxBSYnAr74

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fuck off. the one single moment of my country’s history i would like to relive and reexperience the most is when we kicked you faggots out of office

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The same discord group that makes this same thread everyday, pathetic.

What's actually sad is that you haven't started reading Marx

ECONOMIC CALCULATION PROBLEM
>prices are useless guise

From now on, use these threads to post your favorite Finnish women.

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Who am I in communism?

No capitalist faggots refute the massive unemployment caused by automation
The unemployment rate in the US is incredibly high despite what the DOL will tell you
Much of our economy is "planned" already
The DOD is the largest employer in the world, all paid by taxes
Much of the construction industry is just bidding on federal contracts
People need to work less hours as more is automated and life is eaiser
Machines can do the work, but you fools cling to working like slaves
So work you stupid goys, Ill shrug as the Jew lords throw you into nuclear war killing you all and establishing the NWO

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Part of the glorious proletariat, able to receive the full value of your labor instead of having most of it stolen by companies.

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No it's not fag kys

heddo gomrads wheres food?

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>Where's food
Everywhere.

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Paul Cockshott proved that the economic calculation problem is not real:

macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf

questioned Murphy’s requirement that planning requires pre-knowledge
of all possible prices,

argued that the domain of prices to which planning is applied is in prin-
ciple finite rather than infinite and that thus Cantor’s arguments are
inapplicable, or at worst prices are countable, and Cantor’s arguments
are applicable but irrelevant because there is no concievable require-
ment that this domain be closed under diagonalisation,

argued that planning over finite prices is tractable,

shown that diagonalisation is not applicable to prices or commodities,
and

discussed how infinite structures of predominantly zero values may be
given finite representations.
In conclusion we have shown that Murphy’s arguments are ill founded.
The computational feasibility of economic planning at a detailed level is an
issue that must be investigated in its own right, and cannot be settled by appeal
to Cantor. We have presented specific arguments that suggest that detailed
planning is indeed feasible.

Another good read is the right to be lazy by la fargue

My value as a human being is only tied to the output of my labor?
What happens when I can no longer perform?

Shiet where my gibs at nigguh

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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sounds good nigga as long as I got me gibs n white womynz

based

>My value as a human being is only tied to the output of my labor

Are you talking about capitalism?

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As does the Sun rise in the East, so too shall Spurdo shitpost in all gommunism breads.

Capitalism has always been about ethics

a capitalist system cannot work without

>work ethics
>professional ethics
>moral ethics
>societal ethics

If the following aren't respected the best societal model known to man collapses in a matter of decades if not years

No, what value does a human being have in communism?
Does it depend on the circumstance?

shut the hell up bitch ass nigga me n my homiez gon put a bullet in every white devils head and git they money commniss style yo

All of those apply more to communism than capitalism. The main requirements for a successful capitalist system are free flow of information and little to no government intervention.

>Like for
Jesus. As if you faggots ever created anything worth stealing.
Even at its peak, the USSR was too retarded to make its own nuclear warheads because they were too busy killing their real geniuses so they had to steal theirs from Burgers.

Damn shlomo youre really pulling the race war card hard today LOLLLL

>Your only argument against communists is racism

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Commies fuckin stop. You're wasting your time being poor.

According to your contribution first

Why do you keep trying to force this thread? There are no serious communists on Jow Forums. Replies to these threads are mostly you replying to yourself and people making fun of you.

>Commies PLEASE STOP PLEASE

NEVER.

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One of these days we will turn Jow Forums into leftypol. It's inevitable at this point.

If only there was some instance where it had actually been tried to point to as a model society. Ah well, do the same thing, expect a different result, the madness of Marxism.

I hope you didn't forget to answer my question from earlier. Thanks.

Because I think Marxism is great and I want to spread it everywhere. Also, triggering the Jow Forums Neo-Nazis is hilarious.

I actually found this cool place for you.

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Equality of outcome prodused more death than Hitler's Germany fuck off with this ideological bull shit. Totalitarianism from either the right or left is still totalitarianism

saged

>namefag
>the Jow Forums Neo-Nazis
>doing it for free
Why are you doing this? Do you lack self awareness? If you can't tell, it's embarrassing. You're lucky the mods don't care here. On /leftypol/ whenever I try to debate I just get banned without fail. Reddit is for fags but I image it's the very same over there.
Capitalism isn't about ethics, it's about profit first and foremost. Porn isn't ethical. Child labor isn't ethical. Drugs and addiction aren't ethical, but the Capitalist uses all in the name of the free market and profit.
Free market =/ fair market.

Nah. This is marxist territory. I think you're looking for Stomrfront white boi.

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>doing it for free

As opposed to being a paid Nazi shill?

#Resist brothers and Sisters, Sisters and brothers
youtube.com/watch?v=PmmOQbsTmCA

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>paid Nazi shill
And who would be paying us?
There's record of Leftwing and Jewish shills, from JIDF to CTR to Shareblue, but none of rightwing ones. The difference between me and you is I debate for as long as I can, get banned for a month or two, then don't go on for at least half a year. You spergs do it EVERYDAY. Not only that, but you all argue dishonestly and ban me whenever I start winning anyway, against multiple people no less.

>mfw no posadist general

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name one instance where communism DIDNT work

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bruh. thats a sick graphic

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