What would Jow Forums write?

Okay Jow Forums, your teacher rolls out this mini assignment, write a small paragraph on the problems with communism, open classroom discussion. How would you redpill your fellow classmates?
Also general redpill thread

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is its promoters.

Communism the societal state, communism the ideology or "communism"

moreso the people behind it

Classical Marxist-Leninist communist ideology

Technically the implementation of Marxist socialism, the system.

>debating people wo have not thought it through.
Just explain t he contradiction between LIFE and COMMUNISM in other words...such as:

"There is no better way to be free than to work for the good of others."

Initiating equality of outcome will inevitably require the seizing of property and redistribution of said property by the government.

I would also probably point out that most people in the classroom would have assets taken from them as a result of that policy.

Rich people don't want to give their shit up, gulags, work camps, can't trust the government to distribute all resources and not keep any for themselves, blah blah blah

>>moreso the people behind it
>muh Jew
Jews don't need to cause X to profit from X. Jews simply profit off of others...Jews being in such positions of power, in order to profit, is bad though.

"Ofc people work harder as they're rewarded less- or else they'd die!"

The lack of redundancy in operation of its industries creates a monoculture vulnerable to occasional acute failure in an entire industry. Namely agriculture.

Nothing

>arguing with idiots- whether idiocy is due to naivity or low IQ
What a waste of time. You lead by action, not words- those too dumb will not understand your words, and those who can understand will not trust your words.

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>The lack of redundancy in operation of its industries creates a monoculture vulnerable to occasional acute failure in an entire industry.

Saying this, when they can't comprehend the price system, is a waste of effort.

>The problem with Communism is...
human beings

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Threadly reminder that University student IQ has been decreasing for decades- IQ in non stem is 98...not to mention that any ability that they do have is hindered by their inability to be honest.

Unabomber manifesto?

"To treat people equally by first making them equal would result in treating them very unequally."
-Hayek

This has already been solved OP. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

Not to mention the entire system encourages soldiering. Capitalism isn't perfect by any means, but holy shit communism is retarded.

kek

"The market is a most ingenious- ingenious without being designed- instrument which enables us to utilize knowledge which is distributed among hundreds of thousands of people. It's an adaptiation to millions of circumstances, which no one can ever know on the whole. Prices formed on the market what to/not-to do in the social interest."
-Hayek

ok, so we ain't checkin trips nomore. it's cool...

"Forced-sharing instead of Voluntary-sharing"

^Just write that and hand it in. Or you can bust out the Solzhenitsyn quote about freedom & equality.

>capitalism is flawed
Agreed- it's silly to sustain oneself- it's silly that one's actions have a result for the one who acts.

Not enough helicopters

a small cabal always seems to enrich themselves and relegate the masses to poverty with the excuse "sry senpai it's not real communism yet"

>Muh Jews

You mean greedy elitists who identify as Jews so that idiots like you think that Jews are the problem. It's called divide and conquer. How have you not recognized the enemy's strategy yet?

>You mean greedy elitists who identify as Jews
So, jews. Jew.

You know the Ohio River spontaneously caught fire one year.

What novel is the question referring to?

>Muh Jews
>You mean greedy elitists who identify as Jews so that idiots like you think that Jews are the problem.
I thought I was the only one who realized this. It's important for us to focus on the real villains- these greedy C*tholic pedos who are bankrupting our economy and culture.

>muh environment
The environment is man's to use.

>The problem with communism is
Humans aren't hive insects

"Never truely been tried aaaaaay lmao"

But actually "full of money grubbing beaurocrats who fill their pockets while their people starve.
Then they blame the farmers and EVEN MORE PEOPLE STARVE"

oh thats a big kek

what book did you guys have to read? maybe I read it

I'm references externalities as a whole, since those by definition do not
>have a result for the one who acts.

>all men are equal

>muh externality
Fuck you, and your left-lolbertarian fellows.

Externalities are rarely serious. Nuclear waste leakage is serious. Some crude oil is not.

>all men are equal IN RIGHTS
>not in ability
>BUT IN THE RIGHT TO SEEK LIBERTY

Communism is just the end result of capitalism once all basic aspects of life have been paid for in full; we need to stop trying to skip over every problem that we have in order to reach the inevitable end result long before we as a species are even ready. In the end we will find a medium between the two and wonder how we could have ever been this stupid.

> turning the ebil 1% into an awesome 0.1% that control all wealth while others are cool as fuck with no violence and only happiness because they are all equally fucked over poor.

I'm actually a Monarchist.

Holodomor

>monarchist
>but still MUH EXTERNALITIES

You have the brain of a lolbertarian.

Inability to transition from the proletariat dictatorship to full-communism and the fact that it's a revolutionary movement so that people will die en masse as their different ideas will not be respected (or allowed, kek).
Oh and also that by achieving communism our economic systems will go fuck themselves and we'll have no idea what to do in order to buy and sell stuff and to not make the market crash

You never refuted any point so I'm just dicking around now.

communism's existence is based in violence or coercion, and thus is not inherently valid under natural/common law.

that wasn't so hard was it?

>continue arguing forever, against non-points
Nice try Jew.

>Externalities are rarely serious.

Not that user, but externalities can refer to things other than environmental harm. Shit like capital flight as a result of changes in tax policy can be considered an externality.

>Okay Jow Forums, your teacher rolls out this mini assignment, write a small paragraph on the problems with communism, open classroom discussion. How would you redpill your fellow classmates?
> Also general redpill thread
I GOT DIS

(economist)

1 entire system is predicated on theft, as the government needs to steal to redistribute wealth, income, products, etc. this is immoral
2 why should you work if your income is guaranteed? most people only work for the money, and even if they like their work, they still are only at their job 90% of the time because of the money.
3 companies, people put in unequal amounts of work. they have unequal abilities, unequal wants to do the work, some might be trying very hard some might be dragging their feet. some understand the economy better than others. communism does not reward the best proportionately, nor does it punish the worst. this creates a situation where the economy rots from the inside due to its inefficiency, because nothing changes and all companies keep doing what they are doing, until the entire communist state collapses because even base goods like food can't be matched with market demand.

free markets with a mixed economy element designed to ease the pain of poverty is the superior solution, clearly.

Discuss manifestations of communist ideology in domestic American life since the first half of the twentieth century, from Hollywood, to the civil rights era, to the homosexual agenda, the transgender agenda, the promotion of race-mixing, the deconstruction of the dominant hegemon in general. These can all be directly traced to communist doctrine; Lenin's call to focus as equally on the cultural struggle as much as the economic struggle is the best summarizer of general pinkoism. Once the connection of these things to communism has been made, show how they almost all have precedence in places where communists have come to power (especially in Jew-heavy early stages); particularly the promotion of homosexuality, transgenderism, and race-mixing in the Bavarian communist republic post-WWI. Only then, can one connect the dots, as modern Leftyism is much different from commie reds in the old days, separated in time and place and particualars, do we establish the connecting factor: JEWS. These typs of culture-destroying ideologies almost only manifest themselves in countries where the media, academia, and/or business culture are dominated by Jews. The problem with communism is Jews. Without Jews, and loan interest capital which sucks the blood out of nations, communism would probably be possible and successful. TRUE COMMUNISM, where usury is outlawed, has never been tried.

>capital flight externality
First you spoke of externalities that caused no good, and little harm. (muh oil slick).

Now you're speaking of externalities caused by government policy...where are you going?

Hoppes presupposition of argumentation, and discourse ethics in general, means by the mere act of being asked by someone to do that assignment refutes any form of socialism entirely.

Up until this point in time there has been no unrefuted academic counters to this put forward in paper.


Your teacher xerself cannot refute this.

Not to mention all of the horrors it causes.

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>The problem with communism is...

Dumb Americans think that socialism is exactly the same thing.

>Dumb Americans think that socialism is exactly the same thing.
Because it is. There has been no example of communism, if only because NOBODY FUCKING DESCRIBED WHAT COMMUNISM IS.

If you're talking about communism, you are talking about socialism. It's the same thing. Exactly.

>The problem with Communism is...
People are lazy