Christianity is incompatible with White Nationalism

>Father was a minister, I spent all my life studying theology, went to seminary school and was a practicing Christian for 28 years.

>I became a white nationalist around 5 years ago after becoming aware of HBD, experiencing multiculturalism and gaining a racial consciousness.

>I tried to reconcile my faith with this new reality and tried to ignore the red pill as I couldn't reconcile them at all

>Both the OT and NT, the gospels and core tenants of Christianity is one of love and the dissolution of all distinctions of man into the fold of god. It is at its foundations against any forms of separation of man once they embrace God and Christ.

>I am now no longer Christian and our goals of racial separation, nationalism, eugenics and racial and national romanticism can not be reconciled in a logical or satisfactory way.

>I now struggle with belief at all, the peace in my heart from belief is drained and my only great meaning I hold is love and devotion to my race and Nation.

>I could never believe in Paganism other than having an archetypal view of it and following it in that manner, without literal belief, people such as Bowden and many of the french new right were. But they didn't actually believe.

>So like many red pilled ex-Christians I am torn between larping pagans and cold materialist atheists.

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This is incorrect my friend. You've simply been fed propaganda about what the Bible is, being untrue. To start off, I'd like you to look up the true meaning of turn the other cheek, and what color the descendants of Cain are.

skin color, genetics, doesn't matter to god, only whats inside your heart and mind, your soul, your beliefs.

Perhaps incompatible with white supremacy, but certainly not white nationalism. There's nothing about loving your neighbor that requires you to let them into your house, trash your things, and rape your children. Good walls make good neighbors.

I was raised by a minister and I myself went to seminary school. Can we please not pretend those who claim to be followers of Christ while believing in our movement are anything other than people engaging in cognitive dissonance.

Also the fact that the Kingdom is not of this world.
The Bible also says that the only thing that we are actually equal in objectively is God.
To try to imitate the works of Jesus and the Father themselves is blasphemy of the highest order.
Just do whatever works politically, as long as it is righteous.

>Bible on homosexuality


Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."


Romans 1:24-32
"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

>the Bible on Jews


Romans 10:12-14
"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?"

Revelation 2:9
“‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

You have been deceived Jow Forums. The ONLY Jew in God's eyes is one who believes and accepts him and Christ Jesus. The people who call themselves Jews today ARE the synagogues of Satan.

>the Bible on atheism

Psalm 14:1

"To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good."

Ephesians 4:18
"They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart."

>the Bible on racemixing

Deuteronomy 23:2

“No one born of a forbidden union may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord."

Deuteronomy 7:3-4
"You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly."

Do note that this is speaking of the Canaanite tribes surrounding Israel from the Old Testament, but holds true today.

>the Bible on globalism

Acts 17:26
"And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place,"

Also, please remember that the Tower of Babel was the first attempt at globalism, which will eventually happen again and usher in the Antichrist. God scattered those building it to prevent this.

>the Bible on feminism

1 Peter 3:1-2
"Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;"

Ephesians 5:22-24
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing."

Reminder that multiculturalism was never an issue ('cept with Blacks in the US) until the decline of Christianity in the West and the rise of atheism.

>for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature
Aren't Jewish women the vanguard of feminism and latebloom?

First thing's first mate. Jews no longer exist, in a racial sense. The only Jews in God's eyes are those who love Him, the Christians.

Christianity is incompatible with any form of decency, knowledge and wisdom.

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I'm talking about the women of the Synagogue of Satan.
I know we are the real Jews and that we've been somewhat evicted off the title, but isn't that somewhat proof of what the Bible says about them?

Daily reminder that all atheists have achieved is constant death and destruction, while Christians have built everything you take for granted today.

Checked. What did God mean by this?

This angle is a completely ludicrous one and is used to try and bend the message of Christianity to our whim.

1 - Yes God in Christianity is against homosexuality. So what though, we agree on one thing with Christianity.

2. The bible isn't against Jews, well apart from in the NT telling them they like gentiles need to accept the last prophet and Messiah. The Jews referred to disparagingly in the bible from a theological perspective in the texts are those who persecuted the messiah and broke their covenant with God.

They are however not seen as a racial group or despised or judged on these criteria but for their breaking of the covenant they had. Any attempt to use the condemnation of some jews as a way to align antisemitism to Christianity are engaging in political obfuscation.

3. Race mixing is entirely acceptable and race does not exist as a concept in the bible in a way to separate humanity.

When God forbids intermarriage in the OT, he is specifically outlawing the chosen people, who are in a covenant with him, from marrying pagans as a way to avoid the obliteration of the message of god.

Trying to take this message out of context and pretend the bible does not want any race from intermarrying, as long as they embrace Christ, after his sacrifice are lying or ignorant of a real interpretation of the scriptures.

The only way we can have a White nation is to be Atheist, we must exercise eugenics to purify and distill all that is great about our species and cull the rest, it's simple science yet Christans would rather die than admit they are racist.

White civilization is a ancestral veneration/scientific one, don't believe me? What are any units of measurement for any natural phenomena called?
Pro tip, they're not called from your Jewish mysticism. In order to make our country we have to PURGE any sort of religious sympathy, as most groups in Africa that allow them to make 10+ kids are Christian backed.
>inb4 God
Fuck your Jewish god, we'll burn you alive.

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>So like many red pilled ex-Christians

Greetings fellow ex-Christians

Try harder next time Schmuel.

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You are a larper and a divider.

there may be some misinterpretation and subversion of the bible from earlier sources, but that doesn't mean the earlier texts and core religion are in any way right.
dont tell me the bible is gods only and complete revelation to humanity, or even an accurate one.
religions developed like traditions, customs, cuisine, etc.
human creations based on the ebviroent in which they originated and in which they continue to develop.

This isn't a Christian interpretation though. Any actual believing Christian finds our views completely incompatible with the texts.

Yes please tell me about Christianity and how the message of Jesus is compatible with White Nationalism.

Europe has followed Christianity for two thousand years, and only after embracing secular atheism has all of this degeneracy occurred. Atheism isn't the solution.

>Christianity is incompatible with White Nationalism
Half or more of White Nationalists were and are Christians

SAGE this fucking shit

I have no hate for Christianity, it is a message of love and morality. It just is at total odds with our message of racialism, Nationalism etc.

this. atheists and larpers get the gas.

deists are tolerated

really? then why is most forms of science known started from christian institutions?

Your Jewish God is a lie. EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IS DUE TO SCIENCE.
Don't believe me? Strip off your clothes and meet me, I'll put a M193 5.56 through your chest, and as you lay dying from your organs being shredded, I'll just watch.
>inb4 fedora
*racks bolt*
Pray bitch.

>christcuck
>doesn't know basic scripture
crucify yourself upside down

The christcuck retards here will ignore the treasonous actions of the church and continue to say "b-but Christianity is the basis of Western Civilization"(which is clear bullshit) and "Jesus says you should protect yourself and your family and try hard to be successful"(even though he clearly said the opposite). They're retarded and there's no arguing with willing retards.
>I'd like you to look up the true meaning of turn the other cheek
>when god on Earth said you shouldn't fight back and lived an example showing it he meant the opposite
>his close followers who followed his words and example were wrong
How do you get this retarded?

> Christianity
> Create
The Semitic religion, disolutory of all science and culture in the world, which has subjected Europe and the whites for two thousand years.

atheistcuck telling christian what scripture means.

burn in hellfire for eternity you faggot

Jews continue to persecute Christ by refusing his Light. They literally, generation after generation, turn away from Him all over again.
The Bible clearly states that what is called the Modern Jew, aka the Synagogue of Satan and the Sons of the Liar are the enemy of Christ and should be persecuted just as they persecute Him still.
Also, tribes were separated in the Bible, and God calls for us not to mingle with the "Beasts who can multiply against you"
The people of this world tried to be one once according to the Bible, and it did not end well for them the first time. I do not want that to be tried again.

For the same reasons that Islam was the driving force behind mathematics, astrology etc from the 8th to 14th century. It wasn't because they were Muslims, but because some great minds happened to be Muslims.

muslims just kept the works of greeks, golden islam is overblown.

Do not be naive, those scientists you are talking about are not scientists because they are Christians, they are scientists because they are white. Come, if you were a Christian, Africa, Asia and South America is full of Christians. It is NOT Christianity, before, that religion has stopped any European attempt to shine and leave obscurantism behind.

This is the truth godless degenerates will do mental gymnastics to avoid.

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yeah keep isolating white people from your arbitrary movement.

your romanticism is the death blow to the west, and always has been

SCIENCE IS WHITE, CHRIST IS A JEW, CHRISTIANITY IS JEWISH, ALL INFECTED BY THE JEWISH MEMETIC VIRUS SHALL BE BURNT TO ASH.

I agree somewhat, however there were a few brilliant Muslims who did innovate. One postulated the theory of evolution for example. Ibn Khaldun if you are interested in reading his source material.

why dont white nationalsits start parroting nordic mythology instead?

Because none of us can bring ourselves to believe in it. Even the larpers don't really believe in it. They all do the whole Jungian Jordan Peterson belief in it kinda thing.

Wotan represents the Aryan subconscious etc.

just look what's happening to whites
they were great under God guide in europe and usa for example (like the jews were great under God)
they start thinking it's their own doing and that ther are pure or something (like the jews)
what's next for white people? become a minority and be called son of satan, dont do this white people, you didnt choose to born white, it's was God's grace

These threads are always filled with antichristian memeflag shills.

White Nationalism is incompatible with the human brain.

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>the survival and flourishing of the White race is incompatible with Christianity
>ignores two millenia of European history
Your backstory is bullshit, and I'm pretty sure you're not a gentile.

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>They are however not seen as a racial group or despised or judged on these criteria but for their breaking of the covenant they had. Any attempt to use the condemnation of some jews as a way to align antisemitism to Christianity are engaging in political obfuscation.

Have not all Jews who fail to see the light of Christ rebelled against him? Modern Jews are the synagogues of Satan and are subject the hatred because of it, this goes directly in line with the bible.

>When God forbids intermarriage in the OT, he is specifically outlawing the chosen people, who are in a covenant with him, from marrying pagans as a way to avoid the obliteration of the message of god.

Remember what it speaks of being born of a forbidden marriage. It is inherent and natural to marry ONLY within your own race, why do you think it requires propaganda to do otherwise? Rebelling against nature is rebelling against God, who has created us to be such. Just because the Bible does not directly condemn the Gentiles racemixing, does not mean we are disallowed from discouraging it. Furthermore, if we are all Jews in Christ, are we not the chosen people therefore?

They claimed to be. Their political ideology was at complete odds with the message of Christianity. God does not want racial separation, or nationalism, God only wants us to accept Christ and believe in him.

So I ditched the religion and started caring about my race. The hardest but best decision I ever made.

You are living and are of this world, stop. Die unto yourself, reject this system of things and cease being lukewarm. We have run out of time, the son of man is coming. It is not Jesus who rejects us but us who reject Jesus, have hope he will refresh you if you let him

I never said that though, I said white nationalism and Christianity are incompatible. The core tenants are not similar at all.

Exactly. Racemixing was rewarded with death during the medieval period, why is it only now so difficult to envision this? It is because of deliberate freemason infiltration into the Church to make Christians into a bunch of pussywhipped cowards.

The Bible is the ultimate redpill, and we if followed it as God commands us, Muslims would look moderate in comparison.

>>when god on Earth said you shouldn't fight back and lived an example showing it he meant the opposite
>>his close followers who followed his words and example were wrong
>How do you get this retarded?

That's great kid, I'd like you to look up the true meaning of turn the other cheek.

Eh, look at Latin America...

While, it's clear that current (((propaganda))) has never been pushed like this before, there are examples in the past.

>implying Christianity and Chemistry don't go together like Nuts&Gum

“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” -Werner Heisenberg

"God only speaks to those who understand the language" -Albert Hofmann, discoverer of LSD

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>Jews no longer exist, in a racial sense.

Oh here is a piece of information for you, it's called "Der Ewige Jude": youtube.com/watch?v=RlHVin56U2w

Tune in at 46:05 and see some Third Reich state footage on people like you, who would deny the jews, the eternal swindler, to be a race. Spouting such views in the Third Reich would probably get you removed of any public life, to say the least...

The "whites are the true jews" and other christian identity bullshit are just beyond naive.

Except again this is disingenuous. They were not executed. It was forbidden however because pretty much all non whites were non Christian at that time. Not because of race. Stop trying to pretend the bible forbids race mixing. It makes me cringe. Study the bible if you want to pretend to be Christian.

>the Bible on racemixing
Those Deuteronomies are against getting married with heatens user, only the jews weren't allowed to marry outside their race (at that time)

ethnostates, while functional, are not capable of great achievements. You need empires for that, and for an empire you need an empire or a sense of civic identity, ideally both.

Bretherin, we ARE in the midnight hour, now I will admit Gods timeline is not our timeline but hear me please, there will come a time where you will have to make a choice between living in this world or literally dying for the word. Jesus loves you, love him back

We aren't in the Third Reich you autistic fuck. Modern "Jews" are Khazars and various semites who've rejected Jesus, King of the Jews.

Want to know how I know you're a shill? Contrast this, "Stop trying to pretend the bible forbids race mixing." Directly to what I said before your quote, "It is inherent and natural to marry ONLY within your own race, why do you think it requires propaganda to do otherwise? Rebelling against nature is rebelling against God, who has created us to be such. Just because the Bible does not directly condemn the Gentiles racemixing, does not mean we are disallowed from discouraging it." Truth is partner. You are either a shill, and will burn in Hell, or you are an apostate who never actually accepted Jesus, and will burn in Hell. Do not claim to know the Bible, spouting your blasphemy because your daddy was a preacher.

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Jesus literally wouldn't be allowed in the ethnostate. How is it anything but spitting on Christ to claim he is compatible with out movement?

Jesus forbade the JEWS from mixing in the bible to protect the covenant and the message of god from Pagans. WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU MORON?

Jesus could be allowed on a visit tho.
I'm sure he would be fine with getting through a security check at the border, for a short-term stay, no problem.

Several christian european sects were wiped out to the last man by the church, like the Cathars, Waldensians and so on. The Thirty Years War, fought over religious interpreation, killed almost half of the german population and divides the country up to this day.

>"The Swedish armies alone may have destroyed up to 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages, and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns."

I'm not trying to defend atheists, who are agents of (((them))), but christianity was not what built europe, but white BLOOD - as you can see by the fact we had extensive pre-christian cultures and civilizations like Rome - christianity did not even build the nation states of today - the US was founded by non-christians, other countries by nationalism and designs by certain groups...

Jews aren't "turkic" - this is literally a deflection but up by (((them))) to get you to trust on some of their people from the old testament - who are all part of the same eternal jew...

Khazaria was... full of jews expelled from the arabic caliphate and byzantium - it was infiltrated, and jews from former Khazaria do not even form the main component of middle ages askhenazis.

Stop being naive...

My new Religion is Europe and I will die for it with a smile:

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B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b--but it's not real Christianity! My interpretation which I follow is the real one!

History of Christianity in a nutshell. If your belief system can be interpreted in so many different ways then it's not a good belief system.

Nice to see someone who knows this
>the US was founded by non-christians
puritans are christians, user...

yeah you are going to die for it
but whatever who cares right?

>WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU MORON?

Impatience. A common trait of the atheist. One who claims to possess knowledge, yet lacks the logic to see the simple beauty of God's design.

>Jesus forbade the JEWS from mixing in the bible to protect the covenant and the message of god from Pagans.

The Israelites have been spread throughout the nations. Modern Khazars and Semites "Jews" have nothing to do with them. Now riddle me this buddyboy, how many non-whites TRULY believe in Christ? How many black folks trust Jesus with all their heart and soul? How many of them are intermarrying with white Christians?

The Bible fails to address this topic because it is a non-issue. Interracial marriages are a rarity, even if Jow Forums constantly fixates on them, and they are always committed by non-Christians. Furthermore, your beloved Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler, was a Christian himself, same as all his staff. Yet you continually tell me Christianity is incompatible with White Nationalism? Please.

Christianity is the truth. If you are too blind to see that you will suffer your fate like the rest of them. God bless.

Call me a brainlet and perhaps I am but I don't follow

George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson were all "deists" and formally not christian (to say the least about their beliefs). That was what I was referring to.

My children will, theirs will and when my great great great great great grandchildren are colonizing space and reaching new peaks in the history of the Aryan, I will truly of succeeded.

Atheism is so much better. There are literally no rules whatsoever so you can genocide whoever you like. How great a belief system you follow.

Atheism isn't a believe system you inbred, it is a lack of belief.

Why not explain ir if there is a meaning beyond what was plainly meant? Because there is no explanation for it.

they arent doing it, even less if you start rejecting God, you people dont get you are nothing without God, if you were something was cause of God, white people did nothing by their own doing

You're saying that blacks are the descendants of Cain, who God cursed to have dark skin? I suppose God must also have cursed Cain to have kinky hair, thick lips, a wide flat nose, and protruding jaws, as well as the other racial differences. After all, we know that there's much more to race than mere skin colour, right?

next time remember to specify, user

Love your optimism but no, we are the last generation

>Looks like it's that time again
>Oh, what time?
>Time to find God

I'll see you niggers in the 10th dimension

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They were essentially positive christians like in the Reich, cut out most doctrine and slightly alter the archetype of Christ and Aryanize him.

implying i want to hang around you faggots anyway. we are not family because we are white. 9 out of 10 of you are fucking gay as shit and i dont want to form anything with you. get the fuck out of my face i have to go to work

Ad hominem attacks. Blatantly ignoring parts of my argument. Gaslighting.

All the works of the faithless atheist. No good fruit is born of this wicked tree. Have fun with your (you)s mate.

You do accept Christianity is completely diametrically opposed to white nationalism right. Coming from the son of a minister and someone who actually went to seminary school..... As opposed to the random white nationalists online who try and morph christianity into something that approves of white nationalism.

also remember that their objective was to remove christianity as the main belief of the people

Are you implying logical deduction and reasoning are only attributes found in atheists? By the way 99.9999 ministers and clergymen like I was agree with me. Not your inane commentary of theological matters.

Get it fucking right the races weren't created until the tower of babel

God doesnt care about skin colour, no skin color is better than white, if you think you are better than God you are getting wiped out

>no skin color is better than white
better than God i mean

So you are against white nationalism and pro race mixing if you are christian and follow the prince of peace right?

>Racemixing
Moses marries an Ethiopian woman and God punishes Moses' family for racism against her.

im pro Christians, i dont care what color are they

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Add to that that multiple Christian prophets and messengers married different races. Add to that God chose the Jews as his chosen people and his son was a Jew.

But no Christianity is totally compatible with our movement and any utterance otherwise by all Christian organisations is fake Christianity and the truth is Christianity is actually 100% compatible with White Nationalism.

Neither does God, may the peace of Christ be with you

Meh the Christians massacred and humiliated the Pagans and won. This kinda stuff is complete larping.

So you are a real christian, god bless. However I am a white nationalist and Christianity is incompatible with it.