Not been in one of these threads for a while how are we all doing
Grayson Carter
bump
Ryder Russell
alright. finally the team shit is over and we can return to our peaceful existence
Sebastian Morgan
hey, OP, what is this link you provided? my browser says its something bad, and when I go on it nothing relevant shows uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1389982155
Also I know you're just a shitposting Democrat, I saw you in the other thread.
Jose Ward
I used to be a communist like you until I read several fascist works. Global marxism and international capitalism - whats worse?
Eh... USSR wasn't communist. It's like China today - communist in name only. It only collapsed after Gorbachev instituted shitty free-market policy as well as freer speech (which led to dissenters getting more ground, which fueled the collapse of the country)
Wyatt Rivera
Hey bros. Just came by from /esg/ to give you a bump.
It just seems modern politics is slow and inefficient to me, I think we need strong leadership and the ideogies of fascism to unify a nation. Also I believe National Socialism could work but I think because of world war two we won't see it implimented any time soon
Jace Collins
Fascism denies the existence of two classes, because there are many more than two classes. Fascism Denies that human history can be explained in terms of economy. Fascism Denies internationalism, which is a luxury item that only the high monopolist and high finance can practice, because the people are strongly linked to their homeland.
Corporatism is the central pillar of fascism; however, in more modern terms, the term has been prostituted. Corporatism is often confused with the corporatocracy, the union of the state and the big companies. However, a corporation in fascist corporatism does not refer to large companies. Corporations are effectively 'unions' or 'guilds', organized around particular occupational groups and supervised by the state. It is designed to be the main representative body in the fascist state, designed to replace the traditional legislatures that organize representation around the interest of the party. It is also designed to eliminate class conflicts. By giving direct occupational representation, a forum will be created under the state to collaborate different classes. Corporatism is central to maintaining the sense of an organic society, composed of different groups that could only function as a collective whole. Corporatism also helps to ensure that the State can participate in the regulation of the class relationship and exercise direct and total control over property and markets, without expressly supporting an ideology of one kind or another. In fascism, private capitalist property is eliminated in favor of a union/guild / corporate property. The main objective of fascism is to organize as a being or (body) the nation, for a better explanation, it is a politically applied pantheism (in pantheism, all consciousness and material things are a personification of God, everything is God, which it is an organic entity in harmony with itself, what is god in pantheism, it is in fascism is the state, conceived as the spiritual being of the nation
I don't like National Socialism for its racial policies. That's kinda it, if I think about it. It is a bit too left for my taste, but better than Strasserism, I guess.
Caleb Reyes
When it comes to race I'm more in line with the integralist method, breed all races together in a nation to create a new race all together
Liam White
bump
Kayden Flores
Fascism can't work without a strong emphasis on race.
Sure it can. I think Corneliu Zela Codreanu explained it pretty well in Evola's book Fascism Vieved from the Right:
>To indicate the differences between Fascism, National Socialism and his own movement, Codreanu referred to the three principles of a human organism: its form, its vital force and its spirit. He said by way of analogy that a movement of political resurgence, while not neglecting the other two, could appeal especially to one of them, in the vaster organism corresponding to the nation. For him, Fascism had concentrated its interest on the element of ‘form’, like the Roman doctrine of the state. National Socialism emphasised the vital force by its references to ‘race’ and Volk.[85] Codreanu himself wanted to start from spirit and give a religious colour, or rather a mystical one, to his movement.
So Nazis have race as their basic "root". Fascism has the state, and Legionarism the Orthodox tradition.
Personally, I believe that the state is the most logical of them as you choose to be a member of it and can exit anytime (unlike with race), and it's not on a flimsy basis as religion (like legionarism)
You should probably say "Pan-European" next time. Any decent movements in the UK? GI seems good for normies to get into fascism but it doesn't go all the way, and NA got shoah'd because (iirc) it was a bunch of skinheads
Julian Jackson
That is an ethnicity (shared expanded bloodline and culture) not a race (several shared neurological and physical characteristics who make a group distinct from another
after glorious Oswald Mosley? hardly. there is League of St George, but they are just skinheads.
I know, just did that too. They do seem like LARPers hahah
So is there any fascist (truly fascist) movement in UK?
Austin Bennett
They're trying to appeal to "youths" with youth meetings and youth officers. I get emails with their shit all the time.
Kevin Hernandez
National syndicalism is based on the thought of Sorel, one of the main ideologues of revolutionary syndicalism, was anti-rationalist, and rejected the Marxist theories of historical materialism, dialectical materialism and internationalism. Strongly influenced by Nietzsche's voluntarism, Le Bon's tactics and Bergson's anti-Cartesianism served as an essential and ideological basis for the national syndicalism of Ramiro Ledesma Ramos or the Italian proto-Fascist sorelism.
Thus, the first task of national syndicalism was to link these two loose ingredients: the national and the social, the Homeland and the Work.
For national syndicalists, the construction of a new order must be initiated by man, by the individual, as European and Spanish; It begins with the individual and goes through its organic units, and will scale from man to family, and from family to municipality and, on the other hand, to the Union, ending with the State, which is the harmony of all the aforementioned. In this way, in this politico-historical-moral conception with which the world contemplates, the economic solution is implicit; dismantle the economic apparatus of capitalist property that absorbs all benefits, to replace it with individual property, with family property, with communal property and with union property.
I think you need to re-consider your appraisal of religion as a "flimsy" basis for anything, and no, you cannot properly exit the State under Fascism. The State is not a political body. The State is a vital force that supercedes mere politics, and in fact, creates the individual. Not vice versa. You cannot "choose" to be a member of the State anymore than you can choose to breathe oxygen. Mussolini and Gentile make this very clear in the Doctrine of Fascism.
Cultured Thug is interesting. Very well-read dude, but also very much lives up to his namesake. I always wonder what he did time for. Also, I think his Nazi prison ink is pretty trashy, but what can you do.
In a nutshell, Fascism accurately represents the inherent hierarchy present in nature and in spiritual matters. As above, so below. Fascism also provides proper context for personal and collective struggle. It isn't ideal, but it is overall a positive I think.
I think Oswald Mosley said he wanted his Fascist rule to be democratic
Bentley Garcia
Why don't we spam EU shills with this video on Faceberg and Twitter? youtube.com/watch?v=a-AjVAuqGms They literally can not argue against it and it will create a meltdown in their heads.
Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera talking about what is capitalism
>When we talk about capitalism, we do not talk about property. Property is the opposite of capitalism; property is the direct projection of man over his things: it is an elementary human attribute. Capitalism has replaced this property of man with the property of capital, the technical instrument of economic domination. Capitalism, through the terrible and unequal competition of big capital against small property, has been nullifying the trade, small industry, small agriculture: He has been placing everything, and placing it in the power of the big trusts, of the big bank.
has anyone heard this song ? it always brings a tear to my eye when i listen to it
Hudson Brooks
Various Fascist movements have their terminology differ in their manifestos and books. I base mine off of Rodzaevsky's ABC's of fascism (sadly, never translated into English).
I think what for you is "State", for me is "Nation". I think that members of the same nation are indeed connected to each other via history, language, and tradition, and the will to continue doing so is what makes a Nation. The state, however, is a political body.
As to my point - I think you definetly can "exit" a State (my idea of a state - a political body), either by becoming a filthy dissident, or by treacherously running away.
He murdered someone in a fight, he did a video about it actually. He got into a bar fight and ended up killing a guy. Not sure if the video is still up I think it got deleted when youtube shoahed his channel
Samuel Myers
Whats the difference between fascism and national socialism?
Has anyone tried what this user is saying? I'm interested
Leo Moore
How closely are Fascism and Monarchism related? I follow the Fascist worldview, but politically I'm more of a neo-Roman Monarchist, where people who serve in the military and social service can vote a monarch, as opposed to a hereditary rule.
Parker Watson
bump
Jackson Adams
There can be fascist monarchism
Kevin Brooks
Ah ok, that makes sense, although I will still disagree slightly, in the sense that what seem to distinguish Fascist conceptions of the State (or Nation, for that matter) from petty totalitarianism or despotism is the inherently spiritual component. The Fascist State may be a political structure, but it is not sufficient to describe it as only that. It aims to replicate a universal truth, which is why it is not up for negotiation.
Lincoln Watson
monarchism is when the power is passed down to one of the family members of the ruler but fascism the next in line does not need to be blood related
Benjamin Jackson
I have and I do feel healthier however I believe that it comes from a combination of things including regular exercise, controlling your sex and most importantly eating clean and balanced. If you do these things you will likely have no need for additional supplementation.
What would you call direct rule by a voted official? It's not really a republic because power's not split between the head of state and legislature (sorry if I botched the spelling) or a democracy because only a select few get to vote
