Simple question, forget gun-confiscator lefties for a sec, if the government can have ARMED DRONES KILLING US CITIZENS WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, shouldn't ctizens be legally allowed to own citizen MANPADS?
>CITIZEN MANPADS
CITIZEN MANPADS
>he doesn't already own one
Pussy
I have seen these in rural alaska I shit you not. and not just empty tubes.
How much would they cost??
fucking retard.
YES.
The 2nd amendment is also a limit on the power of standing armies.
Why do all these faggots LOVE the military all of a sudden?
Civilians should have anything the military has.
Repeal Obamas tyrannical executive orders OR allow the free distribution of anti-drone weaponry.
Manpads are not effective at killing UAV's. What you really need are radar-guided missiles like the Patriot.
billionaires are civilians though retard.
Yes
Yes they are.
Anything over 25kilobux, but small price to pay in an age of unprecedented oppression by the government, the best one (Igla-S) costs 85K on the black market. Maybe 50K if it becomes legal?
Really? tho Alaska has some weird laws on outposts or something, iirc.
>Jow Forums thinks that it's a good idea to allow civilians to buy weapons capable of attacking airliners
no thanks
drones typically fly too high for MANPADs to hit. Also many newer MANPADs are designed to be difficult for insurgents to operate. For example, the Stinger uses battery packs which have to be carefully maintained or they don't work
>he doesn’t already own MANPADS
lel what are you a woman?
Sometimes just a belt fed machinegun is enough to down a drone, but what if we can get a CITIZEN MANPAD going on?
Ok repeal dronestrikes by the govt. Where's your problem?
Not if they're attacking. They need get closer for the Hellfire to lock.
so?
Their robots are reason enough for everyone to own full auto .50 cal with HE ammo
Hillary Clinton flew right over my house on election day.
TOO FUCKING LATE.
>Yes they are.
No, they are not. Many UAV's can fly much higher than a manpad can shoot. The Stinger for example has a max altitude of 12,000 feet. The MQ-9 Reaper (Predator drone) flies at 50,000 feet.
>petitions.whitehouse.gov when?
>we'll never get to own a recoilless rifle
Those robots aren't remotely intimidating, and I wouldn't waste time shooting it at $6+ a round. Make a fucking molotov cocktail and burn the fucker, melting the wiring harnesses causing fault to ground.
Does a pipe bomb in a spud gun work the same way? Because I'm pretty sure I can make a pipe bomb and put it in a spud gun.
THIS
you still need to close in for an AGM to hit and the Igla has 6,000 ft. range.
>manpads
what a shit name
>we'll never get to own a recoilless rifle
Reading that just ruined my day :(
>you still need to close in for an AGM to hit
What does this mean? Rephrase.
>CITIZEN MANPAD
remember this new meme
THROWING THIS 2nd Amendment cat IN FOR GOOD MEASURE
Careful, she'll sick her lawyers on you for that thought crime
It's thing to spy with a camera from way way up and another to get down for the missile to lock and fire.
Anyway, don't be a jew contrarian .
I know you’re probably trying to be funny, but no, obviously not.
A pipe bomb in tube would be artillery, used for surface to surface, this is used as surface to air. Essentially it could even the playing field as the governments potebtual main advantage would be air support, and the citizens main advantage would be they could blend in with the normal populace.
>potebtual
Potential*
Something's got to be done about left/jew anti-American cucks pushing for the BIG GRAB, start asking for everything.
>legal machine guns
>citizen drones/cruise missiles
>CITIZEN MANPADS
>long range antennas
The works, get it all legal.
>A pipe bomb in tube would be artillery, used for surface to surface, this
Why, that depends entirely on the lift and fuse burn time, but it would never be much more than garbage flak
>It's thing to spy with a camera from way way up and another to get down for the missile to lock and fire.
But user, that's not how modern air warfare works. A UAV is not going to be within MANPAD range at any point. You should be advocating for county SAM ownership.
Are you guys even aware it's the predator drone using hellfire missiles or just pretend you participate to the co versation by obfuscating facts?
Get it all here , push the window
This. We should also be allowed to posssess our own gun battle bots.
>Are you guys even aware it's the predator drone using hellfire missiles
Predator drones do not descend to 5,000 ft to fire hellfires. They stay out of MANPAD range.
You're just babbling at this point.
Predator drones can fire missiles from 50,000 feet, which is more than four times the distance that a Stinger can shoot back from. The drone could be directly over the Stinger and the Stinger would not have the ability to reach it. Stop being a dumbass and read a book.
repeal the NFA REPEAL the NFA
You try accurately hitting an flying target with a fucking spud cannon.
My microwave emmiter is good out to 60000 feet in theory. too bad ill die if im near it when I turn it on...
This
I'd own one if it wasn't a vannable offense.
And didn't cost $256436754
Effective anti aircraft and anti armor is solid gold for foot troops.
And civilian arms create a huge problem for invaders and occupiers.
heh the government banned powerful lasers because nutcases where shining them at airplanes and shit why the fuck would they give anyone fucking stingers lmao
Really kike really ? The Hellfire radar needs a lock before it shoots from the air, it needs GET LOW. Are you a leaf too? Yes.
Fuck yourself.
Legalize MANPADS FOR CITIZENS NOW!
>manpads
Sounds like a hygiene pad for pre-op FTM transsexuals.
they can, you need an explosive ordinance license but its not illegal.
No because they present too much danger to civilian aircraft. Machine guns and some artillery however should be legal.
>microwave emmiter is good out to 60000 feet in theory
What? Is is 6 trillion watts? Because that's what you would need to even defrost a burger at 60000ft (in a vacuum at that) Do know what the inverse square law is or is this more 'american education'
Afaik the gov cannot do drone strikes on US soil.
if muricans can buy stingers at walmart im packing my bags
Nonsense , keep it real and push for CITIZEN MANPADS, or repealing Obamas Tyrannylaws . Get the fuck real already.
YES
Yes, it is supposed to be legal for a citizen to own every weapon the government/military owns. Yes, that includes nuclear. They shouldn't have made it, if they didn't want us to have it.
Aircraft didn’t exist back then and the US constitution is not some holy law.
Larger drones can carry heavier bombs like three JDAM. MANPADS are not a viable option for drones.
Kys. Be sure to do it with a legally registered musket.
Larger drones can carry heavier bombs like the JDAM. MANPADS are not a viable option for drones.
You’re subhuman.
>the US constitution is not some holy law.
It practically is to many people, and for good reason.
shall not be infringed
put countermeasures on the aircraft to avoid infringing on gun rights
It has its upsides but only a retard thinks that it isn’t obsolete by now.
>Put countermeasures which only work sometimes on everything
VS
>Just keep aa missiles illegal
I'm sorry but if you don't like it there are many countries where the right to bear arms is not written into the constitution where you might feel safer.
good luck hitting a modern drone flying at 90000ft+ at mach7+ with that slingshot you posted
If your assertion bacame an actual issue, like they were gunning down people for no good reason in the states, then yes.
If your panties are wadded because Americans who went out to fight for Al Qaeda or ISIS got targeted, shit like that, then go fuck yourself.
Don't start nothin', there won't be nothin'.
Natural born rights are never obsolete. We've only had peace for three generations, what makes you think our descendants don't deserve rights? Eat a dick
You can own anti-tank missiles and MANPADS...
The only thing stopping most is an extraordinary price tag with a $300 tax stamp.
Do most Americans here not know about this?
Don’t want to have to experiment on how to weaponize model rockets when CW2 comes.
HERF gun might be more practical.
US is a shithole I know that. I bet you also think that all kinds of perverse pornography should be legal just because of the first amendment.
TFW half the posters here think MANPADS is what they use when they get their MANPERIOD.
Yet
>$300 tax stamp
infringement
Another porn supporter spotted.
In what way is it obsolete? It can be amended and adapted to suit new laws, but old laws don't suddenly stop working because of changes in technology.
When the founding fathers wrote the second amendment, they intended for American citizens to have access to contemporary military technology. They wanted to limit the powers of the government and ensure the people had a means of resisting the army. If it had been written a thousand years before, you can bet they'd have intended for people to have access to swords and bows and halberds, and if it was written today, you can bet they'd have intended for people to have access to "assault" weapons, military vehicles, ordinance etc. Most canons used during the American war of independence were privately owned, and at the time canons were the heavy hitters of the battlefield, perhaps analogous to tanks and artillery of today.
While I agree.
Good luck repealing the Hughes Amendment.
I'm sorry but if you don't like it there are many countries where the right to free speech is not written into the constitution where you might feel safer.
CITIZEN CARL G's NAOW
The Constitution was designed to not be easily changed. If it was easily changed the US would not be a constitutional republic and would be a democracy. You know, two wolves amending the constitution so they can put the sheep on the menu.
Get a DD stamp, retard.
ARs, recoilless rifles, tanks, sure they can be legal. On the other hand manpads are simply too cost effective at causing terror to be legal.
Degenerate cuckold spotted.
In would think we should.
Blood thirsty libs expect others to bleed to fulfill this agenda.
Americans should be allowed to have both manpads and ATGMs.
>he doesn't keep a manpad in his undies in case of sharting
Enjoy your shitty underwear, dumbass.
It has a loovely built-in cure for obsolescence; it can be amended not one, but two different ways. It has been amended repeatedly since it was forst passed.
My beef is not with people who might want to amend it (we can disagree on their proposals and I can oppose them, but they have the right to make the effort). My beef is with people who say "I dont think we really need to protect this one right that I don't use, let's just ignore what the law says." The precedent that sets should worry anybody with a brain, as other sections of the Constitution protect other rights that could be similarly ignored.
"Amending" the Constitution by just ignoring it would mean that, effectively, there is no basic law laying out how the government is formed and what it can and cannot do. In that situation, it can do whatever it likes. Conservatives, after 8 years of Obama, I think largely understand this, it surprises me that, in the Trump era, as frightened of him as the left is, they still want to set precedents that would remove limits on what he does and how much power he wields.
>Put not thy faith in princes.
I'm a sociopath, name calling doesnt affect me. If it keeps authoritarians like yourself out of my country where you'll start fucking with the constitution that ensures my freedoms, good.
It isn't obsolete nigger, truth never dies. Besides, you have legal firearms in Finland, have you not ?
Let's keep talking legal heavy weapons.
That is an odd thing to post on Jow Forums, a site that exists so weeaboos an jerk it to cartoon tentacles raping lolis.
>citizens own MANPADs
>some retard decides to shoot down some civilian airplane
>hundreds die
Are you even white to right that crap, the governmet's got the right to kill you in your house without any oversight, ALLOW MANPADS NOW.
Keep worshipping the govt, don't get Jesus in your heart.
>Not loli incest tentacle rape
Faggot.
The issue is that you’ve effectively created a system that is too hard to modify for its own good. These ”rights” are the reason US is so degenerate and incapable of improving itself.
Sorry, under the new Constitution-free Government, we have decided that you cannot say that. Please delete your post at once or go to a Very Special Jail we have prepared for your kind, with rotating knives and stuff.
t. The Benevolent Government
Heavy weapons and hand guns, yes, manpads, no.
Name a single totalitarian government that supports degeneracy.
>build drone
>duct tape AK 47 to drone
>profit