OK, so I don't like Trump, I don't like any US President. It really fucks me off when people say "I hate Trump" (fair enough) "but Obama was great". How? Why?
My question is therefore simple -
Has President Donald J Trump, done anything "bad" that hasn't been done by previous modern presidents, or other leaders of western developed nations?
Some examples -
>He wants to build a wall Bush and Obama built a fence
>He's against immigration Try emigrating to the UK or Australia before you start complaining.
>His healthcare policy sucks Yeah, and so did Obama's, and everyone who came before him
>He pulled out of the Paris deal Bush pulled out of Kyoto, and that's just one example of many
>He's a warmonger The US is involved in pretty much zero military conflicts right now. Obama was involved in plenty. At least Trump isn't bombing little kids in the Middle East
>He's corrupt and nasty So are most leaders, and this one sums it up. People just seem to base their thoughts on Trump on "feelings" or bandwagon jumping.
I want to hate him, I don't want to have to lie to friends and colleagues when they're saying "Trump is such an idiot, he's going to destroy us all!" I mean, I agree, I don't think anyone should have that much power, but it seems every anti-Trump argument is based on heresay or myth or sheer ignorance.
Also, I know this is a biased place to ask, but the resounding answer seems to be "no, he hasn't"
Maybe I'll be fair and ask the left-wing faggots at Reddit.
Henry Jenkins
>The US is involved in pretty much zero military conflicts right now.
Only a fucking faggot would say that on the same day he says we are staying in Syria forever and US begins ramping up troop levels in Afghanistan, along with having John Bolton as NSA.
Leo Garcia
He keeps the minimum number of troops there, and isn't happy about doing so.
Why aren't the left celebrating this? It suggests he hates war and violence.
Also, that isn't an example because loads of other countries and US presidents have troops in the Middle East and have done for decades.
Benjamin White
He's
A liar Ignorant Arrogant Unfaithful Narcissistic Inconsistent Cruel Offensive Unstable Disgusting Egotistical Callous Greedy Self Serving Vain Pompous Irresponsible Technique based In-congruent Inauthentic Opinionated Dishonest Petty Thoughtless Bullying Disconnected
But apart from this he's fine
Gavin Howard
ISIS are nearly defeated, though I grant you the overall situation in Syria is fucked and far from over.
Friend of mine just got back from Helmand and says it's pretty chill out there now. Not exactly Monte Carlo, but not exactly the Somme either.
Point is, there are very very few actual full-on wars in the world right now, and again, is he the first and only President and/or Western leader to have troops in Afghanistan?
Only a faggot would deliberately ignore the question....
Logan Ross
What country are you in?
Ryan Ward
May I suggest reading the thread before replying?
People like you are exactly my problem here.
1. He likely is all of those things. So are all Presidents and world leaders.
2. They are feelings, you've no evidence. And let's just assume they are all true (most of them likely are to some degree I'll go with that) - what problem is it causing? How the fuck does it affect you?
Logan Morales
When war with Iran happens, I hope you are the first to be drafted. Enjoy you goy
>Point is, there are very very few actual full-on wars
>I'm going to redefine what a war is, US doesn't have troops in dozens of war zones now
Logan Robinson
The UK.
Home of the "let's rip on Trump because it's popular even though we know nothing about him really and he's not our leader" crowd.
Was the same when Bush was in power. Then when Obama was in he could kill hundreds of Pakistani children in a single drone strike and everyone just laughed at his appearances on chat shows.
Jaxson Rogers
Video must be US only. Yes, i live in a state in the U.S. that is similar. The "cool" thing is to hate Trump.
Kevin Perry
Again, will war with Iran happen? You can tell the future now?
Also, it doesn't count because most US presidents since the revolution have fucked around and goaded Iran.
Yes, I'll accept I'm being picky with defining a war. But come on, compare it to WW1/2, or Vietnam, or Korea, and so on.
Also, even if we accept that the US has troops all over the globe have their filthy hands meddling in all sorts of wars that are none of their business, it still doesn't count, because most other Presidents and western leaders do the same.
Grayson Edwards
I can provide evidence for all
Liar - Caravan coming for Daca Ignorant - Said in Israel we just came from the middle east arrogant - Saying he's the most popular President. Unfaithful - Stormy Narcissistic - They Add his name in briefings to keep him engaged. Inconsistent - Daca write a bill I will sign it Cruel - Breaking up families through policy Offensive - Megan Kelly bleeding from somewhere Unstable - could not remember the white house name called it the tippety toppety shape??? Disgusting - Say in a duel interview with Melania She was so fine she never even farted at all Egotistical - Trump on everything Callous - Disregard for a US solder that spent years a Taliban hostage Greedy - Still pushing and promoting his businesses from his position Vain - Hair Transplant Pompous - Has said We don't meet with these people - talking of the poor to a billionaire freind Irresponsible - Trade war despite warning from wall street Technique based - He pulls the hand when handshaking - Learnt this from Cohn
I'll continue....
Charles Kelly
>writing all that and still not reading the original post and entire point of the thread
I don't deny any of that is wrong, but the same could be said for most US presidents and western leaders.
Caleb Kelly
It effects the world which I live in, It effects opinion and what is normal It sets president for the future Prices of my goods It's divisive and splits up communities
I voted him until his policy took away the father of a girl I taught piano too
My livelihood
Jace Jenkins
No, he's unique in that he's in your face and wants to be in your face all the time like narcissist are. Even when there not there they take up the conversation - It really should not be like this. I believe we will look back at this time thinking what an total utter fruitcake
Ian Nguyen
Trump is truly a great man and a great leader (leagues better than hillary clinton would have). This isn't really an opinion, the numbers speak for themselves.
If you don't believe that he is fit for president then you are probably being brainwashed by the people that want you to remain suppressed and controlled.
He lies and lies - his speeches are incoherent and rambling
He is not right in the head at all.
Nathan Scott
Yes, he's been very slow to put his people into the bureacracy, even very slow to get his cabinet together. He has made many missteps appointing people to positions that could not perform, and had to be fired.
He failed to veto the budget.
But on the whole, he's done an outstanding job especially considering that he's fighting the entire deep state, bureacracy, and political animals of all stripes at the same time.
Just a phenomenal man.
Ryan Brooks
Really not at all
Alexander Powell
This does not make him any different than most presidents or Western leaders. Again, read the thread. Discount personal opinion.
And how did his policy take away the girl's father? What policy? I'm genuinely interested.
Again, this is opinion. I agree with that opinion as it happens, but this isn't a valid argument.
This is also opinion. Again, not an opinion I agree with.
ALL fucking politicians lie and talk utter shit. Check out our British House of Commons. Hell, check out our even more retarded House of Lords. Utter shite spewed forth from every side, every working day of the year.
Daniel Wood
He is at the helm of the largest spying network to ever exist. He has the power to enact marshal law whenever he feels like it, and already has. He is supported by people like Binney and Rogers support him, that's all I need.
