What should the relationship between the United States and Native Americans be...

same can be said for European decent and African decent

>slavery
moron, those natives get free land and thousands of dollars from the federal government every year just for existing.
reservations are the highest level of gibs.
the only reason they are riddled with poverty is because the fucking savages never do anything with their land and government stipends besides building casinos, cooking meth, and drinking like their failed ancestors before them

Yeah, nigger. You have to go back.

They should either assimilate and stop complaining, or be put out of their misery and exterminated once and for all.

t. grew up on the res, my people are shit

>So does that mean that reservation borders become international borders?
Kinda, they are treated as sovereign territory but entering one isn't as stringent as entering another country. They are also granted full rights as US citizens, but when they are on a reservation tribal law applies.

>Do Indian tribes get their own representation in international bodies like the UN?
Fuck no. They have enough problems, the last thing that needs to happen is for the UN to point its finger of shit at them.

>Should Indians have to acquire visas to travel through the rest of the US?
No, because they are still US citizens and the constitution still applies. That'd be as dumb as asking someone from Maryland to have a visa when they go to Ohio on buisness. It's a restriction on interstate commerce.

>highest level of gibs.
looks like shit, is shit k

>the only reason they are riddled with poverty is because the fucking savages never do anything with their land and government stipends besides building casinos, cooking meth, and drinking like their failed ancestors before them
actually the us government doesn't want reservations to prosper at all, they're a controlled group, whenever a reservation starts doing good for itself, the federal government slaps them with some bullshit charge or violation.

Only if Europeans and Africans go back then im cool with that.

What does any of that have to do with today? You are living in the past.

Yeah, nigger. Frogs, bong and wops can get the fuck out with you.

>exterminated once and for all.
thats called murder psycho, in all honesty this nationalism racisms evil, everyone needs to convert to tradtional catholicism

They can't be their own nations AND be US citizens. If they want to be Americans like the rest of us, then tribal governments and reservations should be abolished. If not, then they should be treated as foreign nations like Canada.

if Europeans go back to Europe and Africans go back to Africa, then tribes would be obligated to head back.. to wherever that is..

The deal was forever, user.
If you want to give the State of Wisconsin back, we'll fish there.
You didn't fight the American revolution, you still benefit from it. Nor was the American revolution just for that current generation, with the colonies going back to the British after that generation passed.
Same idea here. Deals a deal.

>the federal government slaps them with some bullshit charge or violation.
>embezzling federal money that is supposed to help the tribe is a bullshit charge
wew lad. You might want to look up 18 U.S.C. 1163. Insider theft on the reservations is a big problem for some tribes, almost as bad as the alcoholism. You can google it and find at least 50 articles about embezzlement cases from the reservation system and the casinos.

they could have chosen to become american and reject their shitty lives. They chose poorly. Every native I know told their reserves to go fuck themselves. Totally excommunicated and shit obviously but now they're living better lives than any of them. They say that they don't want to be part of a culture that actively tries to suppress them from achieving success because of some misguided sense of pride that is really a guise for the chiefs to run mini crypto-communist villages that are rampant with drug abuse and murder. Reservations need to be liquidated as well as those who refuse to integrate.

>t. grew up on the res, my people are shit
Agreed. My father was born and raised on the reservation. Best thing that ever happened to the family was being thrown off.
Best thing that ever happened to me is my mother cucked him, and I'm a bastard and not his. Funny as hell. White Tribal member.

>they could have chosen to become american
Seriously?

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>What should the relationship between the United States and Native Americans be?

They should kick all the illegal immigrants out.

>They can't be their own nations AND be US citizens.
Under US law they are an exempted class. That is how it works. If they are on a reservation then tribal law applies, but once they step foot off one one they are considered US citizens.

>If they want to be Americans like the rest of us, then tribal governments and reservations should be abolished
Many don't, and for those living in the shitholes that are most reservations they are perfectly content with this. The ones that actually want to make a better life for themselves get an escape by being considered "special" under the law.

>If not, then they should be treated as foreign nations like Canada.
Feds had the chance to do this but didn't so states with reservations in them wouldn't be assmad. Having thousands of acres of US territory treated like foreign nations would really fuck up commerce for those states.

The u.s. government is controlling and moding all reservations, do u actually believe the u.s. government would allow the reservations to prosper, let alone the jews..

The concept of adverse possession exists to prevent property rights from being threatened by such old, obscure, and dubious claims. Either be an American or be a foreigner. You can't have it both ways.

Give them lots of casinos and don’t tax their cigarette sales

now i get it, the natives are taking place of the jew mafia and want to be the mafia, at the cost of their children being sold to the sex slave market, or jewish delicatessens

>Feds had the chance to do this but didn't so states with reservations in them wouldn't be assmad. Having thousands of acres of US territory treated like foreign nations would really fuck up commerce for those states.
If Indians really are separate nations, then Indian country is not US territory at all. If they are nations in their own right, then it's every bit as much foreign soil as Canada.
>Under US law they are an exempted class
US laws are supposed to apply equally to all Americans. There can be no special classes.

I agree either abolish reconized tribal organizations or let them become foreign nations.

>The u.s. government is controlling and moding all reservations
OK, but how is that forcing chiefs and council members to steal hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars of taxpayer money every year?

justice.gov/usao-edca/pr/former-tribal-officials-and-employees-charged-embezzling-6-million-paskenta-bandhttp://www.originalpechanga.com/2014/05/rolling-hills-tribal-casino-had-1.html
argusleader.com/story/news/2016/03/16/murder-suicide-couple-embezzled-almost-1-million/81857374/

Fucking prairie niggers need to figure their own shit out before bitching about anybody keeping them down.

Its a shit deal but nobody ever said losing a war was a positive outcome. They were sitting on the hill, and I don’t care what people say, colonial America would have been stupid to just leave one of the most hospitable landmasses to a bunch of people who didn’t use it.

Can I marry a squaw and attain the same rights they have? No license required for fishing? Does that translate to commercial licensing as well? Is that including restricted species?
Is their tax game on point as well?
Just how much depth does their status have?

>If they are nations in their own right, then it's every bit as much foreign soil as Canada.
You're still not getting it you dense fuck. Treating them as completely separate entities would be a giant pain in the ass and take away resources from things that were an actual problem. Especially considering by the time the reservations were established the Indians were a husk of the warlike people they once were. Indian affairs has been the realm of the US government since the Constitution first became the law of the land. Congress dealt with it in the manner they did as a compromise between the states that have indian lands in them, and by allowing Indians to have their own land but with hope of integrating them like the original plan was by granting them protections of US citizens if they decide to leave. Many that do decide to leave integrate into American society just fine while their people drink themselves to death while moaning about how the white man destroyed their proud culture.

>There can be no special classes.
Then go bitch to James Madison when he wrote the US constitution and the congressmen that decided on what to do with the natives after the Indian Wars were finally over. Since you can't do that, good luck trying to change decades of common law rulings and federal statutes.

>OK, but how is that forcing chiefs and council members to steal hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars of taxpayer money every year?
blame the u.s. government for placing tribes under federal control laws.. tribes would be glad to get off gibs, but are forced by feds to receive free gibs.

believe me some tribes want to be independent, but destorying thier treaty would destory the tribe's identity alltogehter, the u.s. would reconize them as u.s. citizens and nothing more. while tribes want to be reconized as a forgien nations.

Native americans were seasonal nomads and would travel from maine in the summer to maryland in the winter. Not until the colonists came and settled did the natives stay put. They were kicked off the east coast and all the land that they were used to changed.

integrate as US citizens but let them keep the fishing as compensation

You really are that stupid, aren't you?

Their ancestors were US citizens before whites even knew this land existed.

>blame the u.s. government for placing tribes under federal control laws
>are forced by feds to receive free gibs
The US government didn't force them to steal money from their own people you fucking retard. At least twice a year tribal officials are busted for embezzlement and a whole bunch of illegal activity that nobody forced them to do. The US government may not be the best thing but you have to be retarded to blame them for everything wrong on the reservations.

>while tribes want to be recognized as foreign nations
>implying the average prairie nigger wants to loose their massive ammount of gibs they get
They are not as proud as you think.

They are a conquered people, one that made a deal. Don't have alot of compassion for blacks or spics in the US, but natives made a deal and the gumbit backed put on those deals. Like them or not a deal should be honored. Void all their reservation lands and integrate them into the US for good. Use thier shit land to place commies in fema camps.

Americans are not obligated to feel guilty, but it would be just to give fair representation. Canada totes progressive policy, but it is mostly ineffective. Too much squabbling over Indian status, lack of employment, infrastructure and suitable land/prohibitive laws for traditional subsistence living. Reserves are usually terrible places to live.

They should be given the reservation lands (in certain cases a potential expansion of current reservations) as their own sovereign territory, completely free of US government involvement. Give them a "right of return" type deal allowing them to renounce Tribal citizenship and fully join American society with the understanding that this only applies to those born within a set time frame. After that time, no more AmerIndians will be able to claim American citizenship. The sovereign Tribal nations will take care of their own administration with America de facto providing defence since they would all be enclaves in US territory.

The ability to claim American citizenship will not apply to Mexicans, Central Americans or Caribbean islanders of any heritage whatsoever.

Yes.

If they want it.

We can make visa free travel agreements with them like we have with many other countries.

Goddamn it, dipshit, the question is what we should do not how are things being done currently.

well thats why they keep the fishing, not a bad trade imo

>They were US citizens before British colonists created the US

I hope you're just pretending to be retarded.

Well said. At least not all you Americans are a bunch of drips.

>the question is what we should do
In that case, we should have finished what they started in 1644 and wipe all of the ones that don't want to assimilate off the face of the planet. For the most part they suck.

>not how things are being done currently
Given that there are many posters in this thread that don't understand how it currently works, it should be said.

Tribes were forced by the u.s. government to choose between free gibs, or nothing.. so tribes chose the wisest of the two, which was what the u.s. offered free gibs for life, they can easly stop gibs whenever they want, which would forever btfo the eternal corn nigger.