It made absolute no sense for the US to drop the atomic bomb on Japan

>masons
get out

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(((THEY))) are making this thread to make a parallel between the Syrian Chemical Attack and Japan's 2 nuclear bombs.

Don't take the bait. THINK.

Dropped two bombs with zero friendly casualties. Boom - literally war's over. To take mainland Japan would have cost hindred of thousanda of allied lives. Maybe more. Right choice. Right weapon. Right outcome. And hey, they started it, so fuck 'em.

This

I used to believe that then I grew up ans studied intently and found that it was justified and necessary on many levels. Just as I swallowed a redpill on moslems after I actually studied and got past the public consumption propaganda. P.S Freedom is greasy sleazy dirty and unkind.

Operation Downfall would have been a disaster for all sides.

The nuclear option, though today universally lambasted, was the most humane solution at the time.

youtube.com/watch?v=-Rrmqju74A8

Harry S. Truman took that lonely S for his name after bombs, it means Satan.

there are no parallels relax.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol

why do you keep attacking people?

because america certainly had to fear big powers joining on the axis side.

so would you say it would be humane as well if they dropped toxic gas on Hiroshima..

The Americans with the help of your disgusting kike-tribe nuked the innocent civilians of Japan to stop Stalin from advancing in Western Europe.
Question for you: Why have you Jews become so stupid and impotent with your retarded provocations? You used to be more cunning.

Alternate history/timeline post:

>why did Germany nuke Stalingrad and Leningrad in the late summer of 1942? It made absolutely no sense to do that. They were already winning.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol

Orthodox Christians

What's most impressive is his quickly they rebuilt a city that was literally fucking nuked. Meanwhile in nigger and shitskin countries...

Yeah but the 6 million

If you're looking for absolution for the recent chemical attacks in Syria, look elsewhere.

WWII was just that, a war, your conflict is one of occupation and religious-ethnic genocide. Conflating the two is not just a false equivalence, it's disingenuous.

But I'll hear you out in the spirit of the board and free speech. (Something not afforded to Gazans.)

USA dropped warnings before bombs, also. The Japanese that believe them and left, lived.

It was done to show the world and the Soviets in particular what a nuke was and what it was capable of. Besides, the very idea of spending crazy amounts of money and immense use of manpower just to create them meant they were going to be used one way or another. The argument that Japan would never surrender and the bombs were deployed to prevent ground war has been refuted. It was a naked display of power, and though few would admit it, the best thing ever to happen as an argument against nuclear war in the post war era.

not true, you are scum of earth

When they were diaspora, they more or less HAD to interbreed with whites, resulting in a stronger mental constitution, now that they're back to fucking eachother in an area the size of Rhode Island the gene-pool is a bit more shallow.

Thus, like the buck-toothed, wall-eyed monsters of old European nobility, they lost their efficacy as leaders and thinkers.

Catholic, nagasaki was founded by a portuguese misionary

To test the new weapon in wartime environments, I thought kikes were smarter than this.

You forgot to equip your meme flag, you hook-nosed fuck.
I honestly used to think that the JIDF meme was just a fun bit of banter. Now I'm starting to have my doubts.
Immediately after the Syrian gas attack the shekelsnatchers come out and start drawing parallels to the US bombing of Japan.
Kindly gas yourself, please.

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The Soviets just declared war on Japan, it was either nuke them to end it or let Japan fall to Communism. Which would you prefer?

the u.s had already destroyed 90% of japans cities and sunk its fleet, japan had no way of waging war, the japanese only waited to surrender because they wanted to keep manchuria and korea, the atomic bombs did nothing to end the war, they destroyed 2 cities after 70-80 had already been destroyed

don't believe muh invasion of japan would've costed millions of american lives! or we had no knowlege of the pearl harbour attack!

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=ylMbvf3sn_g

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Bill Whittle does a brilliant point-by-point walk through of why we did it and why we had to.

Also this, nukes were less than five years old when they were used in combat, no rules or laws existed concerning them.

But chemical weapons have been legislated by the World powers since before the advent of nuclear arms, making the Israeli poster's equivalency morally reprehensible.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol

Already reading, thanks Straya.

This.
not long ago i saw an old godzilla movie on tv.
I checked the date on the movie and it was like, '54
So in just under a decade the japs had already rebuilt and even had a society functioning well enough to have a movie industry.
Same with Euro countries after ww2...so why do 'syrians' have to flee to europe instead of rebuild?

To be fair though, the japs were psychologically fucked by that war.
They went from undefeated holy alphas to total betas...pic related.

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Hit the history books faggot

But Hiroshima had the biggest Orthodox community in Nipland

we spent the money to make the damn things, you of all peoples should realize the importance of not wasting money...

>still believing in nuclear weapons
do some actual research

It's called running up the score.

Truman felt like he needed to race Russia in the postbellum land grab, m8. maybe it saved lives, Soviet Administration was pretty fucking shit. but maybe it didn't. also important was the opportunity to flaunt nukes on the world stage.

wars are fought so as to gain advantages in peacetime

pretty sure this is just the meme used to justify the bombing. from what I understand, the truth is they were already in the process of surrounding but were holding out for better terms from the Soviets, hoping to retain wartime acquisitions / stay armed / what have you. two nukes later and we had ourselves a timely unconditional surrender.

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We won the war.
So what is our excuse for betaness?

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A full scale invasion would have cost even more lives

and here you are armchair quarterbacking curtis lemay.. its was necessary if only to keep shekel herders like yourcess muling about shoahs. we'll do it again too, wait and see

Underrated point.
I wonder if the cold war would have turned nuclear without a demonstration of exactly how horrific these things really are.

>Japs
>hooked noses
Actually they are pretty flatfaced. unless I misunderstood your meaning

shadow government. thanks Ike!

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it makes no sense to burn ants with a magnifying lens either, but it sure is fun.

Isn't it ironic that you're the ones gassing innocents this time around, Goldenberg?

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just cuz you tested a weapon doesnt mean you tested its effectiveness against a hostile target..

I swear you fucks always try to bring masons into everything. They are literally just an ancient fraternity that does not give two shits about politics. Give it the fuck up already.

>mfw this user was right after all
serves me right for responding seriously to Israeli flag. sage'd this shit thread

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See
Also "muh invincible samurai spirit" is meme as well.
Army aside, your average nippon was about as cowardly as your average westerner, and wouldn't have grabbed a bamboo stick to charge machine gun fire.
Excpetion being Okinawa, but to mainland Japanese ethnic okinawans were basically niggers, hence they were ok with giving them grenades and telling to charge yankees, often at gunpoint.

You'd be surprised how angry people get if you bring this up; I've had conversations with people about the bombing where I said the bombings were necessary as human beings could not imagine the devastation; they had to be shown. Case in point the allies had already firebombed the shit out of Japan but it's never stopped any nation deploying conventional bombs. Nukes were always going to happen the moment the Chinese figured out gunpowder; a bigger bang was always to follow. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are our best signposts in averting nuclear winter.

Drop nukes
Anime
Profit?

jerusalem is getting the next one

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Absolutely this.
Ask any anti-nuke fool about Operation Downfall.
You'll either get a blank and gormless stare or stammering evasiveness.

>we traded millions of lives for a few hundred thousand.

With this argument you could justify nuking and enemy you feel like. There are reasons why there are rules to war. The US could have made peace on weaker terms instead of demanding a "complete surrender", and without nuking cities full of civilians.

That's bold talk for someone who just gassed a bunch of kids in an attempt to start WW3.

Both of those cities were major military locations.
Fucking hell the balls on liberals counting on us sharing their ignorance of history.

The nips war crimes far surpassed that of Hitler. Why is no one referred to as Tojo when they are trying to defame someone?
Atomic weapons were too good for those gooks. should have kept fire bombing them and starved them to death in a blockade.

there were no nip civilians. All of Tojo's subjects were instruments of war.

FUCk YOU MISINFO SHILL, THAT WAS TRUMEN TESTING NUKE AND TRYING TO AVOID A MAINLAND INVASION WHICH YOU KNOW THE KAMIKAZE WILL FUCK UP THE US ROYALLY, NOTHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN SERIA.

Japanese High Command had to have their hand forced, they simply wouldn't surrender to a terrestrial invasion. They didn't surrender in Saipan, they didn't surrender in Okinawa, they wouldn't surrender in Kyushu, they wouldn't surrender in Honshu or Hokkaido. Even after the nukes were dropped they didn't surrender until the Soviets cut off their last option for bargaining. The whole purpose of Pearl Harbour was to draw the US into a costly war and then SURRENDER CONDITIONALLY. The religious extremists took over High Command (Yamamoto et al) and refused the possibility of surrender.

>Why is no one referred to as Tojo
Who owns the (((media))) in this country?

Mmmm that's good pipul

We are also responsible for 9/11 and the death of elvis, tupac and that Canadian rock faggot who shot himself.

>...he exclaimed, as he machine-gunned another Palestinian child

>Both of those cities were major military locations.

Then you bombs the military locations retard. The thing is, the US wanted a "complete surrender" without sacrificing any manpower. Never before had civilians been bombed to such a degree. It was basically an easy win button, while sacrificing basic humanitarian principles of war.

This is the only way you could justify the bombings in a honorable way. I'm curious to what degree this argument holds though

The nukes were the best strategical decision. It was either that or a war of atrition. The japanese were proud motherfuckers, whitout the nukes the US whould have had to make a ground invasion of mainland Japan and all of the isles.
it would have costed more lives on both sides, years of conflict and maybe Japan would have gotten fucked by china os something like that.
The nukes were the best option, that is the plain truth.

This is good if you ain't seen it; a lot of anti nuke people are irrational idealists who won't listen to reason and act childishly about the reality of nuclear power

m.youtube.com/watch?v=y97Ywl7RtUw

>The US could have made peace on weaker terms instead of demanding a "complete surrender", and without nuking cities full of civilians.
Could have, yeah. should we have? I dunno. I can see arguments both ways. high command already saw war with the USSR coming, and the USA's strategic position re: Japan, as secured by the unconditional surrender, definitely helped win the Cold War. was it worth the civilian massacre? tough to say without being able to pop into an alternate timeline where we didn't do it and compare notes. WWII was basically "Civilian Massacre: The War", though. as stated elsewhere ITT, the firebombing of Tokyo actually killed more people in one day than either Hiroshima or Nagasaki, the nukes were just a much more dramatic bargaining chip.

hurr da libruls durr

Kinda like you fucking kikes and Syria.

atleast you admit it now we can move forward.
youtube.com/watch?v=PBAl9cchQac

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I think we should make it a thing. Like when MSM calls a nice normal libertarian a Nazi: say, "well, he's no Tojo"

Basic humanitarian principles!? This was total war you knob. Everyone was up to their elbows in blood.

would make a lot more sense dropping it on you

don't bother asking Americans about it, the indoctrination we receive regarding the Pacific War is pretty strong. They teach us in schools that "America dindu nuffin dem subhuman japs deserved it"
the way I see it, there are two reasons the US dropped the bombs
1. they wanted a show of force, and to understand just how destructive the nuclear bomb was
2. the US government wanted an unconditional surrender, rather than the conditional surrender the Japanese had already offered (ironically, the main term was keeping the emperor, then after the unconditional surrender we let them keep the emperor anyway)
people talk about operation downfall and "muh saved more lives by using nukes" but in reality we could have easily forced the unconditional surrender without the nukes. We had Japan completely cut off from food and outside resources, all we had to do was continue to blockade, bomb and starve them and the unconditional surrender would have came. Operational downfal would not have happened even without the nukes

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Go ahead and cite any codified principle of war regarding nukes from that time.

I'll wait, as long as is needed.

It won't make sense when Trump drops a nuke on Israel either.

Winning wasn't the point, m8

You fuckers actually did kill Tupac though...just saying...

>The whole purpose of Pearl Harbour was to draw the US into a costly war and then SURRENDER CONDITIONALLY.
rly? I thought the idea was to take out the carrier fleet in one go and then not have to deal with the USA in the Pacific at all until repairs / replacements were done. have I been misinformed?

What's with this "we" shit you filthy kike? You got a mouse in your pocket?

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Death to the kikes. Maybe we should have fire bombed those civilians to death instead? The instrument doesn't matter, unless we get to count Dresden as Hiroshima tier devastation. Pay reparations shekelniggers.

>we let them keep the emperor anyway
in the most cucked form imaginable. this dude had to go on public radio and admit to everyone that he is not divine. that's humiliating on a national scale

Honorable? there was nothing honorable about the nips. Their atrocities made Nerumberg look like jaywalking.

>Go ahead and cite any codified principle of war regarding nukes from that time

the principle that you should not strike civilians. The goal of a military operation is to disrupt the enemy military operation. If Hiroshima has bomb factories, you bomb the bomb factories. Dropping a bomb in the middle of a city is akin to terrorism

Nukes aren't real.

That may be the case, but I've read translations of first-hand documents where the plan was put to Hirohito, and the scenario was literally that they wanted the US to let them keep the oil fields and knew they couldn't hope to win a full-scale war and needed to inflict painful naval losses on the US to soften opinion towards conditional surrender.

>Flag

Russia.

Japan was not going to submit. And we had to show the Russians.