Should we give this back to Russia?

nah, sergeis on welfare have different kind of autism
also, slavs can smell each other

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why not, just make sure to add Eastern Germany to that list you fucking faggot

The only thing you can give is your ass to Ahmed, and that's all.

>german
>giving anything except for his daugther and his ass.
ISHYGDDT

I am ok with this.

and this too

I would consider it...because if there is a war....I guarantee Thats on the list of things to take.

If the shadow global government want war....they will certainly much more than they can handle.

you have control over Eastern Europe - why would you give it to Russia?

yo, bloody basterd, give back east Germany.. it's not yours , is Honicker's:PPPPPP

>you have control over Eastern Europe

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???

Germany is a trade empire, it exports capital and provides money to foreigners - this means control over countries, doesn't it?

Nope, I think we'd better give Siberia to Russia
Siberia is legit chinese clay
Russian always destroy everything they touch
Russia can't exploit the potential of what they own

SHUT UP, POLACK, AND CLEAN MY TOILET!

also nazis stole gold from everyone to fund the eu, more you know

Came here to post this.

not cleaning your toilet or your country
how long until you die from inbreeding and islam? 6 years tops
that is merely german propaganda
stop buying their inferior toxic useless shit and it will be no more

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>also nazis stole gold from everyone to fund the eu, more you know
read this and stop spreading this bullshit propaganda

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>germany
lol you yourself are still occupied

"Russia has a lot of resources" and (unused) land
>wants to give russia even more resources and land
Ah, the Germans of Jow Forums - no matter their politics they are always retarded.

>that is merely german propaganda
kek, sorry, this is just data

>stop buying their inferior toxic useless shit and it will be no more
hmmm, like cars, machines and chemicals? You realize that Chinks buy this shit too? And Poland is some tiny outpost?

Russia deserves whatever they want, the have suffered long enough.

>muhammad wants to partition europe again

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>nazis didn't stole paitings, furniture, jewels and what was not bolted to the ground from poland
marcel, do you even get bored with your anti-polish threads?

"Clean my toilet" now means "save us from islam like you saved us in 15 spetember 1940 from luftwaffe"?
Language change fast

>marcel, do you even get bored with your anti-polish threads?
I only want to point out that what nazis stole didn't create german economy, this is just a way for weaker and disorderly countries to blame all their wrongdoings on others. Germany was already rich before WW1

>like you saved us in 15 spetember 1940 from luftwaffe
fake news, this was just some one

tiny division*

>poland in ruins after WW2
>polish wrongdoing
not only you are anti-polish but retarded too

No, this.

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>Germany gets rich in 19. century
>Has large idustry already WW1
>Manages to fuck up Poorland in WW2

you got it in the wrong order Seba

>Implying we need Westcuck mercy to "give back" our own clay
>Implying we won't take it back ourselves

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Nah, you can stop being anti-polish anytime.
Germany ruinning Poland during WW2 still has effect on us.

>should we give this back to Russia
No
>should we let all of these countries (including Greece, Finlandia and Germany ally with Russia against the cuck Eu, and should we give Germany back their land and give them the leader they want
Yes

>Germany ruinning Poland during WW2 still has effect on us.
I don't deny, but if Poorland had industry in 19. century then it could have protected itself

>but partitions

France was also attacked after the French Revolution by many countries, yet they managed to retain sovereignty, so partitions are a bad excuse for poorlack incompetence

>could have protected itself
From who?
Germans and the Russians?
Even with strong industry we would get fucked over, few days later thanks to Soviets.

Except France didn't stop being France for 123years and being controlled by other nations and so was the progress.
So your point is stupid.

faggot you forgot the east germany

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>thanks to Soviets
Germany would be enough, they killed Poland in 3 weeks anyway. With bigger industry Poorland could have at least shown even more resistance, couldn't it

>Except France didn't stop being France for 123years and being controlled by other nations
Because it defended itself against anti-revolutionary coalitions of many countries. France beat Prussia, Austria etc. while poorlacks always show partitions as excuse for their incompetence

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eastern europe is too valuable rn because they're not cucked like the rest of us

I see you are just retarded volksdeuche, go to Germany if it's so great.
Oh wait, it's dying.

comparing the napoleonic wars to the polish partitions is the most retarded thing ive ever seen on this goddamn website
>stagnating country partitioned by outside empires
>partitioned poland faces aggressive russification and germanisation in most of its former territory
>worst in russia where polish language and teaching is banned for a time
>literally stops existing for 123 years
vs
>world's foremost catholic superpower and heart of all industrial and cultural progress at the time fights off multiple coalitions
>the attackers only want to restore the monarchy and undo napoleonic conquests

there's a reason why russian poland to this day is the poorer half of the country. honestly if not for stalin expelling the germans poland would be fucked these days, economy would be even more german dominated than it is now

the german, russian, austrian, swedish, and turkish empires were all at different points the most powerful ones on earth. it's not really poland's fault that it couldnt stand up to all of them (although it did manage to for centuries)

final solution of the german problem

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don't bother, he is mercel, known anti-polish faggot who makes these threads
just tell him to suck a dick and move on

Get the fuck out of my sight before I lose it.

hahahahaha

thanks for admitting indirectly I'm correct

>it's not really poland's fault that it couldnt stand up to all of them
In 17. century poorlacks have beaten Russia, Sweden, Turks and suddenly it's not their fault they couldn't defend themselves?

You talk of keeping the Chinese down while Muslims rape and murder you with impunity and Jews get free everything from you before you are forced to accept the Holocaust narrative. And you voted for Merkel again so this will continue to happen.

You want to keep the Chinese down. You.

I don't know much about Russians but I think they despise weakness.

Why do you wonder? OPs first name is probably Muhammad.

Turk,learn some history,Yugoslavia wasn't in Warsaw Pact...

you lack nuance faggot

>beat russians
just barely. you have to keep in mind russia in the 17th century was really just a bunch of mudhuts. it was only in the 18th century after peter the great's reforms kicked in that russia became the superpower we know it as today
>beat sweden
it was a pyrrhic victory, we lost 30% of our population in the deluge. worse destruction than WW2.
>beat turkey
this was thanks to the winged hussars, who performed legendarily at vienna. in the next few decades/centuries however traditional charge cavalry would become completely obsolete with the advent of more accurate firearms and, eventually, machine guns.

poland's strength came from the fact that it was more centralised than its enemies. sweden was overextended when it occupied us due to its tiny population and poor logistics, russia was just poor, germany was still the >H>R>E with very complicated politics, turks were in decline as the sultans became decadent. but eventually prussia rose, russia modernised. prussia brought unprecedented new military doctrine and technology (not even russia + austria + france + spain could beat them), russia brought an overwhelmingly large army. meanwhile in poland the liberum veto ensured no reform could ever be made so everything from military to infrastructure stagnated as foreign powers paid off sejm deputies to keep it that way and when poniatowski tried to fix this our neighbours finally began the partitions to prevent it

how do you think poland could have survived? I'm genuinely curious. what could poorland have possibly done to not have been partitioned in the end?

see poland! see how germany sees you as an asset to be sold or thrown away instead of as a european brother

remember this

>that
>an actual thing
lmfao at polish news

serbia was never part of serbia you brainless cuck

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>MENA
>5%
its all over guys, pack it up...

>what could poorland have possibly done to not have been partitioned in the end?
partitions lasted for almost 80 years before they ended, you think you can't do anything in 80 years? Please, poorlacks just fucked things up

I'm from Russia and I speak Polish.

whats even is the point of the alarm
what's the police gonna do?

Why do the Austrians started speaking italian?

so your answer is "something". truly ebin.
the partitions lasted 23 years btw
that's cool, why did you learn it?
it's irreversible though that's the thing and that 5% has a much higher birth rate than the 80%. frankfurt is already majority immigrant, berlin will be soon

East Germany here. Can we be given back to them as well?

I like polish music.

>oh no they are having sex too
??? now you've completely lost me

>le epik based ruissan empire!!!!!

>so your answer is "something". truly ebin.
because such catastrophic and big processes have deep and complex issues at the bottom of them, not easy to just set out a simple plan before the pc

Heck no!
We were financing those useless southerners for too long and that did irrepairable damage to USSR economy.
We won't feed non-countries no more. Crimea was a different thing, can't let our Black Sea navy base into NATO hands.

Russia treats minorities better than Poland and it isn't run by religious fanatics. Let it rule all of eastern Europe.

>and it isn't run by religious fanatics

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Who the fuck cares what you think, Hans? What the fuck can you give away?

Shut the fuck up and take care of your daughter-wife you keep in the basement.

are you free right now to post because your arab bull is fucking your wife?

here are the problems I can think of that poland had
>rival countries militarily superior due to numbers and/or technology
>declining economy due to the discovery of americas and asia, and russia gaining access to the baltic
>dysfunctional political system - liberum veto
>dwindling population and ruined infrastructure due to centuries of constant war
>divided population on ethnic, cultural, and religious lines - shaky loyalty from many subjects, especially ukrainians
there are probably more
but anyway, none of these are really solvable by 1772. the only one that the state was able to tackle was political dysfunctional through the may 3rd constitution, but that's what prompted the partitions in the first place. what can you do about the others? other than "just be better lmao!"

lol

>equals
>conceding power
>Germany

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That's why it's not run by religious fanatics. Russia has high rates of HIV. It's the price of freedom.

Russia also has more people that are fun to talk to than Poland.

>polish news
>english language
hurrr

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There is literally nothing wrong with being autistic.

>declining economy due to the discovery of americas and asia, and russia gaining access to the baltic
bla bla bla

Scandinavia didn't participate in the discovery of americas yet they managed to stay afloat. Just like Russia

>divided population on ethnic, cultural, and religious lines
This was good though. Ruthenians provided army. Jews and Germans provided trade. Polish slavs were either aristocrats or peasants

>but anyway, none of these are really solvable by 1772
again, 80 years is enough

In my view 18. century is when conflict about human anthropology and nihilism started, which lasts until today. Since then we have a struggle between christianity and revolution. In Western Europe revolution won decisively in various forms, while in countries like Spain or Poorland it was a constant clinch and it's always easier to manage a country when the populace is united. It has its flaws of course, as we see in Western Europe today

Fuck off, we're full. Feed them yourself.

tf are talking about?
we were the largest grain suplier in europe during comunism and 60-70& of it went to you fuckers so you would not starve

>Russia also has more people that are fun to talk to than Poland.
on this forum without a doubt

Poles on this forum are surprisingly often white trash, Russians are much more relaxed, moderate, open to criticism, they can laugh at themselves without feeling butthurt. It seems to me that although there are fewer Russians here, they're at least of higher intellectual and characterological quality than white trash Poles primitives, who distort history and are aggressive towards others

this is one of the many reasons we hate you

Rate.

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nice misunderstanding really shows how much u know lmao
discovery of americas and asia is important because previously polish lands were an important area for trade passing through the middle east/the steppe into europe. western powers were simply able to get resources through directly owning them (colonies) rather than trading with eastern europeans. this is also why the ottomans and venice stagnated economically. russia had the advantage of siberia which contains a shitload of resources. scandinavia was never an economic powerhouse and to this day it isnt (except norway but only because of oil)
>This was good though. Ruthenians provided army. Jews and Germans provided trade. Polish slavs were either aristocrats or peasants
what even? people of all races were recruited into the army. the vast majority of all people of all races in europe were lowborn commoners. ruthenians didn't 'provide army', they frequently rebelled against the poles. the other bit is more coherent because jews and germans were frequently urban tradesmen so yes they did 'provide trade' but they were still small minorities especially compared to the amount of polish tradesmen and merchants

again, it was 23 years not 80.
here's a shit analogy for you though: a fox cannot killed 3 bears by itself. let's wait 80 years. can the fox kill 3 bears by itself now?

your rambling about christianity and revolution is irrelevant to this discussion

>german
>calls other nations leeches
>while leeching money and labor from said countries

>german
>calls millions of whites leeches
>the very whites who keep their inflated shit economy going
>while importing shitskinned true leeches into their materialistic soulless country thats way past it's prime

seeing your downfall will be pure joy

fucking merkel voting spineless krautshits

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Very true...
you can sense when someone is simply normal human.. compared to
krauts and anglos...

Same.

>ruthenians didn't 'provide army'
Cossacks

>but they were still small minorities especially compared to the amount of polish tradesmen and merchants
wrong, jews were like 40-50% of trade

>discovery of americas and asia is important
not for Scandinavia

>scandinavia was never an economic powerhouse and to this day it isnt
IKEA, Volvo, Scania, nationally-owned economy, rich society, mhmmm...

>it was 23 years not 80
no, it was 80, maybe even more

>your rambling about christianity and revolution is irrelevant to this discussion
nope, this only shows how little you know about history. Read Pan Tadeusz again or some other authors

Communist Switzerland is quite the mental image, Italybro.

>Should we give this back to Russia?
No, we should partition Poland again, back to the pre WW1 borders.

Done cleaning my toilet already?

>map with estonia painted red on it
>estonian islands not painted

every.fucking.time

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tbf it's a westerner painting a map, you cant expect them to be very bright