BBCPersian has found recently declassified documents in US National Archive about secret plan of president Kennedy to overthrow secular government of Pahlavi in favour of Shia clergy led by Ayatollah Khomeini through a coup plot in 1963.
US gov & CIA had formed "Iran 918 Group" consisted of a several Iranian Army commanders to overthrow Shah's government if he resist any Islamic revolution. One of the group members was Mohammad-Vali Gharani who later became Iran Army's Chief-of-Staff after Islamic revolution.
Later on, Carter's administration was also becoming tired with the Shah since he was no longer being an OPEC puppet, and Carter's administration initially backed Khomeini:
It is fairly clear from the linked document and several other declassified papers that elements of the US government were actively conspiring against the Shah from the mid 1970s until his fall. The Shah kept pushing for oil price hikes at a time of economic weakness in the West, and just after the US domestic oil production peaked. With that revenue he was embarking upon ambitious development programmes. Eventually, the US managed to get Saudi Arabia to undercut the official OPEC oil price and therefore undercut the Shah. Revolution came shortly afterwards
The USA began distancing itself from Iran since William E. Simon's 1974 petrodollar deal with Saudi Arabia.
Also, on a funnier note, Carter's ambassador to UN also called Khomeini a saint
02/02 The Shah had visions of grandeur, and believed that oil prices could only continue to rise and based Iran's budget on that assumption.
The Shah wanted to become independent and no longer an OPEC puppet near the end of his reign, which lead to massive expansion in military spending (based on the assumption in the budget that oil prices would never stop rising), which entailed the arrival of tens of thousands of American contractors, who inflamed anti-American tensions in Iran through their boorish behaviour.
The Shah wanted to see Iran become a great power before he died, resulting in unsustainable military spending.
Carter gave millions to Khomeini, his UN representative called him a saint, and supported him as an alternative to the Shah.
The USA constantly changes alliances whenever it is convenient and in its economic interests. This is insane. Kissingerian realpolitik needs to be abandoned for the possibility of any rapprochement.
Honor and integrity is something most Americans know nothing about.
USA is supporting an even worse alternative than the IRI, and they are called MEK/NCRI (parent groups). They are Islamist cultists influenced by Marxism; they killed many Americans, gassed Iran's own people, and have a history of molestation and being cultish. USA supports Islamist extremists when they align with their geopolitical and economic interests.
ALSO, prior to the Revolution, UK/USA were spreading lots of propaganda demonizing the Shah VIA THE RADIOS, but this was just pretext covering the fact the USA wanted him gone due to becoming more independent.
Asher Roberts
It's the Jews. Jews are scared of poweful Iran. Because they genocided Persians during Acheamenid Empire (the book of Ester story)
and each year celebrate the genocide of Persians and eating their flesh (yes, Jews are cannibal Babylonians) during their day of Purim
It's not just the Jews. I'm sick and tired about this "oh, it has to be the Jews!" Eternal Anglos have caused IRREPARABLE damage to Iran, and I hope the people learn the truth and never become their friends after overthrowing their Anglo-installed regime.
Why would I, in all likelihood, be a Burger when my first two posts are criticizing them, huh?
Ryder Walker
This is somewhat known already, the CIA and US initially supported the Khomeini faction and fundamentalist Shias in Iran for decades since they were anti-communist, same logic as supporting the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia. The US simply miscalculated and instead of only being against the USSR, Khomeini was against any and all foreign occupation or militaries in Iran including the US.
Its one of the few areas during the cold war where the US and USSR were both on the same side, both supported Saddam attacking Iran because they considered Iran to be unstable and a potential threat to their interests. The US actually supported Saddam financially and politically more than the USSR did initially since Saddam was anti-communist, although he later turned against all foreign influence on Iraq just like Khomeini.
This is turning out to be a quite common and predictable failure mode for CIA and US tactics, to support radical nationalist anti-communists who later turn against you because US influence and politics are barely any better (or worse in some cases) than soviet/russian politics and influence.
>for decades since they were anti-communist The Shah was already vehemently anti-Communist. Please read what I've said, burger. The USA supported Khomeini because the Shah was no longer being an OPEC puppet. It had more to do with oil and market dynamics than with the fear of communism.
Luis Gomez
>The Shah was already vehemently anti-Communist. I never said he wasn't, however one of the main reasons Khomeini was supported is he was also anti-communist, the CIA was supporting the Khomeini/Shia faction even before any disagreements with the shah started
Then the common theme happens and Khomeini who was one of their assets took his own initiative and turned against them >The USA supported Khomeini because the Shah was no longer being an OPEC puppet. I'm familiar with this, doesn't conflict with anything i said though > It had more to do with oil and market dynamics than with the fear of communism. I would say that US influence/control over the oil market and concerns about politics around it were entirely based around anti-communism and trying to keep Russia/USSR out of the OPEC oil market and the middle east overall,
Damn, did they really look like that before the Islamists bred them out?
Carson Morales
So it follows that Iranians were stupid enough to let it happen.
Jayden Sullivan
You cannot always be a winner. Many Iranians still look like that. Some people have darker skin tone, some lighter, but there physiognomy has remained the same largely.
You NW Europeans have been losers until relatively recently, hate to break it to you, and I feel your reign is coming to an end. So the question is thus: Who will the torch be passed onto? Hopefully, you guys don't chimp out too much.
Nathaniel Stewart
Whatever makes you feel better, my brother. The Shah will rise again and Cyrus the Greater is on his way
Wyatt Ross
>The Shah will rise again No, he won't. >Cyrus the Greater is on his way Things die. Impermanence is the basis of reality. Iran is finished and the diaspora will probably be massacred, interned, and/or raped.
Angel Harris
The diaspora gave us this, and we will always be grateful.
>Iran is finished and the diaspora will probably be massacred, interned, and/or raped. This is retarded, Persians will continue to marry mainly into Persian families and Iran politically is stronger than it has ever been in the past 40 years. The shah was not terrible but he was also too much of a pro-US western cuck and pushed too many reforms and unpopular westernism that set the stage for a fundamentalist revolution, among other reasons
Julian Bell
Right, and you just want to rape women that look like her and kill those who try to stop you. It's fine. I've come to terms with just how brutal this existence is. You're going to scream "bleached!" while the final things I see are blood dripping down my eyes. The USA has been financing separatist tendencies in Iran for awhile, and I bet Azeris, Kurds, Lurs, and Baloch will all try to divide and break Iran. I think the Russians are in on it, since Soviet times they wanted Mazandaran province. The USA wants Khuzestan province for all the oil, like South-Pars Gas Condensate a geostrategically important location.
Owen Garcia
At least you're honest about your shithole.
Oliver Diaz
It's a shithole thanks to Anglos. The Shah was directing the country to the right path until Anglos betrayed him. You Anglos are immensely cunning, but you are even more soulless than the Jews.
Jacob Barnes
So, again, stupid enough to let your country be destroyed by outsiders. Not too bright there.
Dominic Miller
>massacred, interned, and/or raped. Why?
Tyler Mitchell
>The USA has been financing separatist tendencies in Iran for awhile, and I bet Azeris, Kurds, Lurs, and Baloch will all try to divide and break Iran. They are all under heavy scrutiny with a high police presence and the last attempted revolution resulted in a lot of them being arrested, particularly leaders >The USA wants Khuzestan province for all the oil, like South-Pars Gas Condensate a geostrategically important location. lol, with Iraq being openly friendly to Iran this is a pipe dream at best
Ian Bennett
Might does not make right, you edgelord faggot. Anglos are traitorous scum. I just feel like something like that may happen due to a number of factors.
Dylan Ward
There is no perfect revolution but I not having their leaders assasinated would have helped.
I didn't say it made right, I said it made you stupid and pathetic enough to lose so horribly. Good god man, look at your country. It's absolutely pathetic.
Joshua Jackson
>They are all under heavy scrutiny with a high police presence and the last attempted revolution resulted in a lot of them being arrested, particularly leaders Shia identity does not work to unite Iran's various identities. It simply doesn't work. It's why you see more Azeris in high-profile positions in the IRI. >lol, with Iraq being openly friendly to Iran this is a pipe dream at best Arabs change allegiances in a heartbeat when it serves their interests. They are similar to Anglos in this regard.
Iran is finished, and it's because of how incompetent and stupid the mullahs were. Even during Pre-Islamic times we had a Machiavellian leaders surrounded by autist eunuchs, who do administrative tasks, and magi who try to maintain more order. If the magi were to have complete power, it would lead to madness.
Now we have a bunch of retarded mullahs who think they understand complex topics like economics, realpolitik, and so forth. And it was all thanks to Anglos betraying the Shah.
John Gutierrez
I agree, it is pathetic, but it's not entirely our fault. Sometimes you are at the top, sometimes at the bottom, not much you can do about it. The whims of Fate can be pretty cruel.
Jason Perry
You're claiming that the entire diaspora of a country is going to be exterminated. If you want to make such a claim then you need to provide a halfway decent reason why such a thing would happen.
Parker Gutierrez
They are inseparable the jews have married into their aristocracy. The Anglo position iis the jews she position and for all their loyalty these British and American people are being bred out if existence. Serves them right really. What Iran needs to do is find its aryans roots again. There are 200 million Iranians world wide. Look at the ossetians these Iranian seconds have shaped Europes past they were the alani never mind the scythians. Iran is an ancient concept being aryan is a way if life to us being noble is who we are. What we must do is unite the solution an not be found in Iran along but in all Iranians.
Brandon Rogers
>Machiavellian leaders Machiavellian Shah*
Ayden Butler
Did the Shah at least united the different ethnicities of Iran with his secular policies or something? Did his policies reached low income farmer in remote place of Iran?
James Wood
>Kennedy and Carter That surprises me.
Yes, but brown horses were more common.
Jack Barnes
Yes it is. You lost your nation. You were weak and stupid.
Blame fate if it makes you feel better.
Blake Wright
Cockroach eater. I slap my sandals on your mother's head and asked Allah to bless it befor hand.
Gabriel King
>Shia identity does not work to unite Iran's various identities. I didn't say it did, but native persians are still not intermarrying other ethnic groups at a large rate. The central government is also powerful enough that any chances at balkanization using ethnic tensions are basically pointless. >Arabs change allegiances in a heartbeat when it serves their interests. I seriously doubt Iraq turning against Iran, especially when it announced the US is not allowed to use Iraqi airspace to attack Iran just a few days ago >Iran is finished, and it's because of how incompetent and stupid the mullahs were. Even during Pre-Islamic times we had a Machiavellian leaders surrounded by autist eunuchs, who do administrative tasks, and magi who try to maintain more order. If the magi were to have complete power, it would lead to madness. >Now we have a bunch of retarded mullahs who think they understand complex topics like economics, realpolitik, and so forth. And it was all thanks to Anglos betraying the Shah. Now its clear, you sound like some type of non-Shia garbage expat shilling against the Iranian government because your shit religious sect is no longer relevant
You Anglos are pathetic for supporting Khomeini in the first place. Iran is finished. The damage IRI has caused is irreparable at this point. Just look at how much Anti-Iranian sentiment there is. There is barely any Anti-Arab sentiment, but there is a shitload of Anti-Iranian sentiment in media, artwork, and even starting to infect academia.
Alexander Russell
You are a fucking idiot. Iran has no real allies except Armenia and distrusting Arabs. Russia isn't even a reliable ally. China will probably just send some logistical support, that's it.
IRI is outmatched and retarded as fuck. At this rate, the USA will force Rajavis into power to Balkanize the nation.
Nolan Sanders
>media, artwork, academia There's also tons of anti-male, anti-christian, anti-marriage, anti-capitalist, etc rhetoric in those arenas as well. Doesn't mean those things are going anywhere. Even if you wish it were true, that all Persians were exterminated tomorrow, that doesn't mean it will magically happen.
Luis Reed
>The survey was conducted by the Innovation Center of US Dairy in April. 1,000 adults 18 and over were asked questions about the role milk plays in their daily lives, Food & Wine reported. >The study found 48% of respondents weren't sure where chocolate milk came from. Seven percent thought chocolate milk only comes from brown cows. >That adds up to about 16.4 million people, more than the population of Ohio.
3 rubles have been deposited into your account
Cooper Hill
>There's also tons of anti-male, anti-christian, anti-marriage, anti-capitalist, etc rhetoric in those arenas as well. Load of BS. It's exaggerated and not that pronounced. Only some annoying leftists filled to the brim with self-victimizing minorities tend to spew that bullshit about "White privilege" or hating images of traditional White families. I don't see anything like that on TV or even from most politicians. >Doesn't mean those things are going anywhere. Because they are not that widespread. On the other hand, there is SOOO much stuff dehumanizing Iranians that it is even ludicrous. Even those who dislike IRI say it goes too far a lot of times. Your politicians can't even pronounce the name of the fucking country correctly. Goddammit. Arabs have no reason to complain about US foreign policy or media btw. >Even if you wish it were true, that all Persians were exterminated tomorrow, that doesn't mean it will magically happen. It's going to be a long process of internment, and I'm not looking forward to die.
Zachary Nelson
>Only some annoying leftists Only some annoying leftist groups*
Levi Parker
To know that you presence is a continuous thorn in the side of semites and their Anglo puppets alike is too precious to let go of. We will out last them like we always do even after China rises and falls Iran will still be around. We were there then civilisation was still a fetus and we'll be there when it dies. The envy of semites against the Iranian nation is born from a deep inferiority complex. Look at all our people have achieved we can say that Iran has been a net positive for humanity by a wide margin not the Arab or the Jew or the Turk can say the same.
Levi Allen
Holy shit what a dumb fucking cuck you are, likely an actual paid shill to promote anti-Iranian narratives while pretending to be "Iranian" >. There is barely any Anti-Arab sentiment You would have to be delusional not to see it, if anything most of the hatred for Iranians is due to many people who think of them as being lumped in with "muh terrorist" Arabs/Muslims as a group, hardly anyone in the media discriminates between Arabs or Iranians/Pesians even though there is a significant difference > Iran has no real allies except Armenia and distrusting Arabs. Syria, Russia, Lebanon, Iraq, China to varying degrees and a few others
Most significantly is Russia which just moved S-400s and strategic bombers to inside of Iran on Iranian airbases, making any attacks on Iran significantly more risky at this point for the west twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/984901076506857473
>Russia isn't even a reliable ally. China will probably just send some logistical support, that's it. Russia and China are permanent UNSC members which puts them on the same level as the US, so far they have defended Iran constantly against sanctions and supported Iran far more than the US supports its own allies politically
Saying Russia is not a reliable ally is also a moronic statement when they have just proven in Syria they are more than willing to risk far more politically and militarily than nearly any other nation would for a minor ally > It's exaggerated and not that pronounced. Only some annoying leftists filled to the brim with self-victimizing minorities tend to spew that bullshit about "White privilege" or hating images of traditional White families. I don't see anything like that on TV or even from most politicians. You would have to be blind or a retard not to see it, nearly ever show and commercial features mixed families, faggotry, promotion of feminism or other degeneracy
Ethan Flores
>Because they are not that widespread. On the other hand, there is SOOO much stuff dehumanizing Iranians that it is even ludicrous. Even those who dislike IRI say it goes too far a lot of times. Your politicians can't even pronounce the name of the fucking country correctly. Goddammit. Arabs have no reason to complain about US foreign policy or media btw. You're a total fucking moron and unironically support the leftist narrative yourself
Isaiah Cooper
I think Israel will resort to using a nuke.
Christian Murphy
Iranian diaspora invests more in enemy nations like Dubai, UAE than its own. We're finished. It doesn't matter anymore.
Carson Reyes
Finished with kikes like you that for sure.
Blake Bailey
Israel's nuclear arsenal and the sampson option in general is an exaggerated meme They have 20-150 nukes and the vast majority are small, tactical nuclear weapons. This isn't enough to significantly damage a population even if all were used successfully in a optimal scenario, furthermore Russia has sold Pantsir air defense systems to Iran and placed its own there that are specifically designed to counter and destroy cruise missiles, making any Israeli attack less likely and less effective. The land based IRBM sites of Israel are already known and mapped, pic related and Israel has no SSBMs or second strike capability to withstand a nuclear war or even massive non-nuclear retaliatory strikes to themselves. The main Israeli threat would have to be submarine launched cruise missiles and Iran is an extremely poor place to use cruise missiles due to its topograhy with high plateaus and deep valleys, unlike the Arab desert states which are flat and the perfect environment for aircraft or terrain following missiles. Also Russia sold Pantsir air defense systems to Iran and just moved some of its own there, Israel right now is in a very fucking poor situation to try and face Iran, especially compared to the past 40 years.
Stop the blackpill shilling, even the US admits it would do poorly against Iran in a war scenario and lost so badly in a war game it had to rig a scenario where blue team/US couldn't lose en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 > "Red", with many lines of evidence pointing at Iran being the Red side. >Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected. >After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory. Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and was not allowed to shoot down any of the aircraft bringing Blue Force troops ashore.[2] Van Riper also claimed that exercise officials denied him the opportunity to use his own tactics and ideas against Blue Force, and that they also ordered Red Force not to use certain weapons systems against Blue Force and even ordered the location of Red Force units to be revealed.[3] >This led to accusations that the war game had turned from an honest, open, free playtest of U.S. war-fighting capabilities into a rigidly controlled and scripted exercise intended to end in an overwhelming U.S. victory,[2] alleging that "$250 million was wasted".[4]
Ethan Russell
When Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz in retaliation, most Americans will support interning Iranian diaspora and support Israel. Don't place too much trust in Americans. They believe whatever the media feeds them. The response to the oil prices shooting up when be a hysteria that far surpasses 9/11 reaction. If Iran has a powerful navy, it can deter any attacks because America does not want to risk Strait of Hormuz closing. It really just comes down to that. I'm not a military buff, but if you truly believe, in your heart, that Iran has a powerful navy, then we're in a good situation. Do you think Iran has a powerful navy?
Austin Richardson
>when be a hysteria would be a hysteria*
Christian Watson
oh we will also go back to your godforsaken country if it's so superior, this is a common issue with iraniggers
Tyler Hernandez
>If Iran has a powerful navy, it can deter any attacks because America does not want to risk Strait of Hormuz closing. It really just comes down to that. I'm not a military buff, but if you truly believe, in your heart, that Iran has a powerful navy, then we're in a good situation. Do you think Iran has a powerful navy? You dont need a powerful navy in a strait or enclosed sea, being in range of land based anti-ship missiles are the worst possible threat for a navy and Iran has tons of anti-ship missiles, which is why Van riper won in >In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected. This was based on estimates of the Iranian capabilities in 2002, now they have far more defenses
A ship in range of land based missiles is a sitting duck, you didn't even see the US launch any attacks from the Syrian coast in range of land bases missiles for just this reason and the Mediterranean sea is a far larger area than the Persian gulf and strait of Hormuz
Andrew Mitchell
It would have been superior if you guys didn't backstab the Shah.
Easton Reyes
Well, I would get a Visa then because the USA and its allies may most likely attack Iran and risk Strait of Hormuz being closed. They are that crazy. Gas per gallon will shoot up crazy, and Americans will show their true face. They will most likely target people of Iranian descent then to be interned or massacred, so it's best to leave the country before that happens. Strait of Hormuz closing is good for Iranians on their ancestral land but bad for the diaspora.
Evan Stewart
Some of this goes back to backing the mullahs and Pahlavi against Mossadegh.
While the US has done a lot of dumb things, and I would have been against backing the mullahs, no one really saw what happened in the late 1970s coming. It was a surprise to everyone.
Liam Taylor
>no one really saw what happened in the late 1970s coming. It was exactly what Carter's administration wanted initially.
Justin Jenkins
This is wrong we're definitely going to kill them.
Samuel Cook
>Well, I would get a Visa then because the USA and its allies may most likely attack Iran and risk Strait of Hormuz being closed. They are that crazy. Gas per gallon will shoot up crazy, and Americans will show their true face. They will most likely target people of Iranian descent then to be interned or massacred, so it's best to leave the country before that happens. Strait of Hormuz closing is good for Iranians on their ancestral land but bad for the diaspora. Unlike you which is clearly some type of diaspora butthurt about the Iranian government, im not actually Iranian or Persian whatsoever, just familiar with the subject through knowing several Iranians and Iraqis. Also you're massively exaggerating the chances of Iran currently being attacked, the US and Israel is not in a good position for another full blown war and Iran is too difficult to invade/occupy without a massive vietnam level of troop deployments. Also the Jews/Leftists will still push their muh refugees narrative as always onto Europe and the US and would demand that they accept Iranian refugees (which would turn out to be 75% Africans and various random Arabs as usual) rather than interning Iranians
Also far from a student in a university, he was in his 60s-70s (born in 1902) at the time of the of the revolution and when the CIA was working with him and he openly opposed university's and colleges along with the soviet union as well
good one less economic rival to care about now they are keen to stay in the stone age,keeping your enemies poor such as africa by electing zelots is a good way to not create economic rivals
Samuel Perry
I was hoping the alt right and radical islam killed themselves. never thought is would be consensual
Luis Lewis
>Khomeini Explain to me how he isn't /ourguy/ other than being Muslim. If we had a Christian version of this guy we would love him.
Daniel Price
There is really no reason to believe America is going to invade Iran or that Iranians living abroad are about to be hunted and killed.
Why would Khomeini be a western puppet you fkin idiot, he was trying to overthrow a western puppet The communists put Khomeini and his entourage in power with the help of France to mediate it between US/UK. Rather a Russian puppet that will destroy the country than the Shah who wanted to be independent
Alexander Green
>Why would Khomeini be a western puppet you fkin idiot, he was trying to overthrow a western puppet see >Then the common theme happens and Khomeini who was one of their assets took his own initiative and turned against them >This is somewhat known already, the CIA and US initially supported the Khomeini faction and fundamentalist Shias in Iran for decades since they were anti-communist, same logic as supporting the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia. The US simply miscalculated and instead of only being against the USSR, Khomeini was against any and all foreign occupation or militaries in Iran including the US. >The communists put Khomeini and his entourage in power with the help of France to mediate it between US/UK. Rather a Russian puppet that will destroy the country than the Shah who wanted to be independent This is a fucking retarded statement with not only no evidence but the fact is that the soviet union immediately sided with Iraq against Iran after the revolution and supported Saddam's invasion of Iran, Khomeimi was not only anti-communist but hated by the Soviet Union. The US even kept supplying arms to Iran secretly and caused the Iran-contra affair
Joshua Walker
are you trying to tell me that Iran wasn't a communist state until 1989? So when did they suddenly become Russian puppets
William Long
>are you trying to tell me that Iran wasn't a communist state until 1989? Yes, you would have to be retarded to think so >So when did they suddenly become Russian puppets They never have been a Russian puppet and relations only recently started to reach a workable diplomatic level due to a mutual interest in Syria, FFS Iran was one of the main agitators against the soviets in Afghanistan and helped arrange arms shipments in order to fight the soviets. Even with Syria as a mutual interest they still dont completely get along and Iran told Russia they couldnt use airbases in 2016 since a lot of the Iranian public and especially fundamentalists were still sour about issues during the times of the USSR nytimes.com/2016/08/23/world/middleeast/iran-russia-syria.html
Kevin Gutierrez
>are you trying to tell me that Iran wasn't a communist state until 1989? Unless you are thinking of South Yemen and the 80s/90s Yemen conflict, this is a incredibly stupid statement
Bentley Baker
>It's not just the Jews. I'm sick and tired about this "oh, it has to be the Jews!" people always says this on Jow Forums and then every time it turns out to have actually been the jews
Jacob Baker
This, the eternal anglo is a problem but that is because of rothschild connections to the royal family which go back to the early 1900s
Julian Bennett
The Russians winning over Afghanistan and Iran was due to the Americans backing out and sabotaging everything. I believe scorched earth was the primary objective there The Shah even realized it was too late when he found out what they'd had been planning. Without the Americans, the pussy boy Shah literally couldn't do anything.
To this day, all the government officials are buddy-buddy with Russian officials/companies.
Christopher Green
What a jewish thing to say. Are you proud of yourself Mr Khan?
Dylan Mitchell
Holy fuck what are you 12, 13? >The Russians winning over Afghanistan and Iran was due to the Americans backing out and sabotaging everything. I was talking about the Afghan-Soviet war you dumb fuck, when the fuck has Russia ever had troops in Afghanistan since for a major war?
Also the US has never been in Iran since 1979 >To this day, all the government officials are buddy-buddy with Russian officials/companies. This is bullshit also, tons of people are still pissed about Russia and uneasy about relations due to Russia supporting Iraq against Iran and supporting the Afghan government (DRA, not the later Taliban/pro-US governments) against Iran
