Why is PTSD so much more prevalent in modern war?

because society is fucking coddled babies raised by women who wanted daughters. Faggots in WWII experienced far harsher conditions with less technological advancement and then went on to have productive lives. Now soldiers bitch if their MRE doesn't come with a fucking pop-tart.

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Death has become seperated from a face on battle, now youre playing a back and forth game of hide and seek and the final moment can come from anywhere. Though it probably did exist earlier, I can imagine some foot soldier who had to flee heavy calvery would never be the same of they escaped

Survival rate is higher, more drugs and mixtures of drugs, not to mention they pretty much force it on military personnel via media and the headshrinkers in the military lay it on thick.

Guerilla warfare is a bitch. In wars prior you could see your enemy, you knew what was coming. Now, you can just be driving on a road and BOOM. You and all your friends are dead because Muhammad made a pressure cooker bomb. Lot more mentally taxing.

>more prevalent
It's always been there, but no one took it seriously. Same with most conditions really

>Nazi LARPer
>keyboard warrior
The ultimate combo

Medical advances have kept the battle torn alive, back then a splinter could kill from infection and so no ptsd just kia

There's money tied to a disability rating for ptsd, along with victim status. Id bet half the troops suffering from it never saw combat and have some form of guilt they associate with ptsd

Modern soldiers are actually under more stress for longer periods of time due to the nature of insurgencies and guerrilla tactics.

in the old days in war you knew where the enemy was, how long they would take to get to you. Now enemies can be chilling themselves and 30 seconds later start firing artillery. You can be killed by people miles away.

in the old days there were periods of time wher eyou asbolutely knew for certain that you were safe, that no one was coming. In modern war you are never safe. You could die literally anywhere, in a split second.

In the old days you would see the person coming to kill you right in front of you, and you would duke it out with them. If you were sufficiently skilled you could be confident that you would be victorious.

Now a noobie in the other army can get a lucky shot, or spray and pray, and hit you in the chest, and it's over.

Modern war is so unnatural while older wars were somewhat more natural but still not much so,.

Because modern soldiers don't have to die nearly as often so they can safely return home to be crazy.

Conflict lasts longer. In ancient conflict you might spend a few months in the field, even a few years in a siege, but the terrifying conflict part only lasts for a few days or hours.
The World Wars, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan - daily patrols, daily conflict, explosions and constant threat, nightly mortar attacks, IED threat, enemies dressed as civilians so you can never ever switch off even when you go home.

Because of the gold card, pension and free medical for life.

It's a good example of welfare fraud

More survivors and better diagnosing.

Think for two seconds before you post.

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Jesus there's so much reddit cancer here tonight. PTSD because modern men are pussies. In the past, men were expected to hold their shit together, so most did. That doesn't mean that men weren't psychologically affected by war, just that society would not allow them to show it.

>addresses nothing I said
Bravo goo gobbler.

It isn't.

Not pussies, everyone in the military knows that unless you get out with a pension and a gold card you've missed out. It's a hell of a lot of free gibmedats for life.

PTSD gets handed out for everything and it's basically in possible to prove it doesn't exist

Most people in war never killed anyone. In WW2 the US found this out so since then we've trained everyone to kill.

Before, there were two people doing the killing:
1. Sociopaths who got off on it
2. People who loved their comrades enough to kill
This is about 2% of soldiers, who did 50-75% of the killing. Modern professional militaries train the other 98% to kill comparably as effectively so you get men who did not want to kill who are utterly destroyed by the memories of what they have done.

i would guess most soldiers, especially the ones in the very front, just didn't expect to come home. nowadays, with so many viral videos of families reunited and shit, and the general softness of our generations relative to those before us, coming home is the high point of one's military career.

Yeah! In the past wives and children had to suffer for the soldiers' insanity, now they get some pussy ass psychiatrists and medicine.

becuase it wasnt called ptsd back then they just called them shakes

I'd be mentally scarred too, If supersonic weapons could obliterate me or my limbs at any moment from an invisible enemy far away that I can in no way react to.

>so much more prevalent
Source?

The psychologist Jews made a study of it.

Yeah being psychologically traumatized by modern warfare to the point where you can't perform domestic duties with your family is "weak".

youtube.com/watch?v=NdXiFxMObLg

Because modern life is hyper-competitive, everythings fucking expensive and companies demand excellence 24/7 or they’ll fire your ass. Everybodys isolated and friends / communities are non-existent.

So you come back fucked and have nothing to look forward to. As opposed to the past where you came back a hero. Being hopeful of the future made it easier to cope I’m sure.

WWI and II had more traditional battle fields. Modern wars = more urban combat witch means lots more accidental kills of women children and babies. Plus PTSD was swept under the rug back in the day. Common sense shit really.

No, the reason is because the Jews used tactics to mess your mind up to the point where you would be a psychotic robot killer on demand.

It's the same shit they do for Jew-controlled public (Jew-Communist) school system. This isn't hard to learn.

Actually not the Jews. Just the scientifically oriented military.

Being around explosions and death will give a human brain damage.

And the reason for that is because people go to churches with women clergy or with women leading the services.

the same reason why mexican drug member don't get PTSD after so much shit, hell not even women get PTSD, they're not pussy faggots who think war is CoD.
Your men on the other hand

Those churches die very quickly. No one likes going to a church with a female "priest."

There used to be "priestesses" in temples, and people like going to their services. Spoiler alert: they were whores.

>cartel members don't get ptsd
Haha yes they do. The people who do cartel work, though, are mostly drawn from the sociopaths.

When a deer or some animal has a close call, it starts shaking and literally shakes it off - good as new. I learned that in a book called The Trauma Release Method.

Not really. It came about in the late 1800s before our military doctrine really came about.

It wasn't just the Great War, since that didn't quite do it. Even the Second Great War didn't do it, but, by that time, there were enough Jewish infiltrators and traumatized Americans that it all just went to shit and nobody cared about if there was ever another "war" or what "peace" meant so ti was just hell forever after the Synagogue of Satan took control.

Doesn’t getting prescribed antidepressants once in life make you lose your right to buy a gun forever?

Starting to make sense why the pharma kikes push it so hard on them now, armed and organized veterans are one of if not the biggest threat to the system

They don't die quick enough and they do a lot of damage on their way out though. I'm not kidding, user. It's very much a stark line of division, where the cultural collapse began in earnest, the 1960s and 70s when the mainline protestant churches began ordaining women as well as Roman Catholics who began having women reading out loud to the congregations during the services. And then afterwards, with nonstop cultural destruction following this mistake.

Why would you ever accept gulag drugs in the first place?

>why
Rules of engagement force the occurrence preventable situations. If soldiers could just shoot the fuckers instead of being forced to sit with their thumbs up their asses while watching the enemy kill civilians or fellow soldiers this wouldn't be as much of a problem.

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Guess my modern temples must be massage parlors. This chink with tats tonight had bigger hands than me! Can you say high test? First time I choked one of them, too. LOL

L.O.L.

Damn, I hate paganism.

Lindybeige did a good video on this and another user already mentioned it. Back in the day, war was marching around for months at a time. Even when armies were close to each other, they rarely fought pitched battles. Sieges were the preferred way of conquest. If you did have to fight, it was a one off event. Modern armies deal with battle everyday. If not bullets or shells then the threat of them. You don't get days off, much less months.

> Modern Warfare is absurdly loud (Guns and Explosions for Extended periods of time)
> Soldiers cannot "Release their stresses" out on the population they just conquered due to a combination of War Crime Laws and Military Doctrine in the modern era (For Competent Armies) that requires soldiers to instead focus on improving tactical/strategic situation by gathering supplies, fortifying, and patrolling, ETC instead of pillaging and raping the conquered populace
> PTSD is not just the stereotypical "Explosions going off in mind making the victim look like a zombie thing" it is a natural reaction/muscle memory to stressful events. In Modern War when people are under heavy bombardment they get used to hiding and sucking up the stress by going blank whilst in past warfare soldiers would get PTSD from Hand to Hand Combat whereas instead they would react by having all mental energy into fighting for their lives and have a more useful form of PTSD

everyone here needs to either read or reread "faces of the enemy" and "on killing"

It's all the same, just differing levels of awareness. Temple prostitutes... Didn't they woman at one point offer than man coins? Didn't females used to pay men dowry? Didn't we use to burn old single widows to death? Yes, yes, and yes. Church will only win when it can offer men FRESH YOUNG PUSSY.

imagine being this current year

Always an interesting question.
Check 'em.
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>youtube.com/watch?v=zViyZGmBhvs

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>Church will only win when it can offer men FRESH YOUNG PUSSY.
I... You're dead right.

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It isn't. In WW1 it was called "Shell Shock" Some cases were worse than others. Most men didn't talk about it because at the time it was thought to be cowardice.

Fact: Alvin York, the most decorated soldier of WW1 got so bad years later he would sleep with a loaded pistol under his pillow.

God damn it Well at least I posted the links, fuck it.

"battle weariness" was closer to what it was called

and it existed, many cases described warriors coming back with mental issues. of course they didnt know wtf it was so didnt have the context to describe it thoroughly

hell, audie murphy came home and disintegrated into a wife beating drunk.

Fuck no. You can get involuntarily committed to a psych hospital and still own a gun. Where do people get ideas like this?

>thinks ptsd is more prevalent in modern times

what a crock of shit
violence is traumatic whether you experience it as a caveman or modern retard

where's your proof? you don't have any
you pulled this shit out of your ass
3/10
shit-tier post made me mad

There is no rear, so you're essentially on guard 24/7. It will rack your mind after a prolonged period of alertness, and depending on the transition back in to civilian life it can leave you pretty fucked up in a plethora of different ways

With Zionist governments when the soldiers return home they find out they are literally second rate citizens to those they fought over seas. ...kill Muslims for Israel somewhere in the mideast, Jews gleefully replace the white goy with Muslims throughout Europe and the Americas.

This.
Milfag Combat veteran here. The reason it’s so common is due to being in a constant 24/7 state of alertness. With the cucked RoE there was absolutely no differentiation between harmless kabab and bad kabab. It’s was a constant mindfuck anywhere you went, any one of those pieces of shit could have been one decides to Allah Ackbar right next to you. Same with convoys. Driving down a road to have a bomb triggered underneath your vehicle was pretty unnerving too.
Unlike state militaries there was a differentiation and the RoEs were straight forward.

you're a stupid ignorant millenial who has spent exactly zero amount of time learning about warfare throughout history.

unironically kys.

I mean, is it even? Do you know how many men who never served have stress disorders that aren’t post-(((traumatic)))? But guess what, if you were ever in the military it won’t be called generalized anxiety disorder but PTSD. So any man who develops anxiety disorder after military has it labeled PTSD. And they are also encouraged to fill out ptsd stuff because it’s free money.

Couple that with the demographic nature of those who sign up for military...

The real question is why ANXIETY is so prevalent in modern society

I was an 11b with two tours in Iraq and WTF I love history

Yeah, everywhere these fights are fought with rockets, drones, choopers and carpet bombing

Due to modern medicine, more humans now survive the battlefield. I'm sure PTSD has always existed in war. Because more soliders are now surviving war, PTSD is now more prevalent.

It's a transcendental experience gently choking a tattooed member of the chinese underworld, prodding her wherever with the other hand while she is furiously stroking your... That was almost some soul merging shit going on. Did she get PTSD? No, because she wasn't a little bitch. Some even get PTSD'd when I pull on their nipples or suck too hard. Not this one, pretty much mauled her. Special snowflake victim faggotry is an epidemic of inherent mental fragility - nontreatable.

finns in sweden used to have this stereotype that they were fucked up from the winter war and thats why they were always drunk and stabbing dudes

ptsd has always been around you tard

The answer was already posted yet people keep replying with ignorance.

They were also fighting for a homeland. A place to live. Americans just kill people for israel and in the back of their mind they know they have a home to return to.

I was going to post this almost word for word.

What you say is worthless you fat faggot. Chances are you haven't even stepped outside today and yet here you are formulating worthless opinions of others mental fortitude

It's not. People have always gotten PTSD, there are even reports of knights suffering from it, it just wasn't understood as well.

Id imagine it really ramped up when explosives were developed

It isnt, its just more easy to record and document. pretty sure im the 500th person to say this.

hate to say it, but military service doesn't exactly equate to historical perspective.

many vets i know are narcissistic fucktards who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. many more couldn't tell you who chesty puller was (except the marines) or belleau wood or ypres, or thermopylae, etc. etc.

don't google mos, either. you'll get sniffed out hard.

DIE BRÜCKE!!

The real ptsd is knowing that getting away with taking life is about to end
Plenty of motherfuckers I knew loved it, especially during invasion (03-05) because you could literally kill everyone.
They were the most depressed motherfuckers because they knew it was ending.
Strange world.

The "shoot to kill" rate has gone up by 70% in the last 100 years due to increased training, heavy monitoring and punishment for "shooting away from enemies" we as humans might be given propaganda about war being glorious fin, but the reality is that no-one likes killing each other.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killology

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Fighting at Rocroi must have been fucking awful

youtube.com/watch?v=wAcoekA2Zs8

You sound like a smug piece of shit user. What the fuck are your credentials?

new training methods adopted in most Western militaries following WW2. Official repots cited that on average, combat soldiers only fired their weapons 48% of the time in WW2, by Vietnam that number had risen to 98%.
Following WW2, new training methods were introduced to break down psychological barriers involving killing other people. Pavlovian response etc. probably partially developed in the early stages of MK Ultra.
its pretty interesting, ancient wars were shoving matches, most of the killing only happened when the enemy Army broke, and they were cut down running away, something about looking into the face of the person you are about to kill.

you first, faggot.

Deployment to a modern battlefields means facing the probability of constant engagement, hyper-vigilance, poor sleep and being in mortal danger for weeks or months at a time. In older wars, major confrontations were few and far between, meaning if a soldier even experienced more than a single major battle in his lifetime, then he would have had months to years to recuperate between them. Waterloo lasted a single day, Stalingrad lasted a whole year.

But that's assuming that PTSD actually was less prevalent before and you aren't just under the impression that more veterans come back home traumatized because of better documentation. Not much was really written about the lives and careers of common soldiers for much of history and total literacy was unheard of until very recently, so the fighting classes generally had no records of their own experiences to leave behind.

A: concussions and tbi from high explosives

B: social disconnect in US wars since Nam between vets and normies.

C: recognition of the problems and diagnosing

Personally I was very close to an arty explosion. Lost a lot of hearing but worse than that was a year of migraines, suicidal depressions, and a feeling of being 'out it it.' and that was just one explosion.

you know, I can imagine those men huddling as close together as possible, both for protection as well as for shared courage. Just gritting their teeth as the enemy surged forward, knowing it's about to be crazy with the press of bodies and the blind hacking and slashing. Fuck that, I'll take my M24 and 800m any day of the week.

ok boomerfag. Tell me more about the greatest generation that you are as far removed from as I am.

Fourth dumbest thing I've read all day.

I second first user tell us more faggot

Because no one catered to it before...men were told to drink after war, and shut up. Big pharma needs PTSD

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Bad yeah but not as bad as seeing your friends turn into a red mist and a pile of bloody mush in a second from an enemy you can't see or even hear coming.