Should all men be required to serve in their countries military reserves?

yes

All men should be required to perform national service in some capacity upon reaching adulthood. Only the capable and motivated should be allowed to serve in the military.

I'm a Quebecker in Canada.
Make me.

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>Following orders without thinking for a medal
So brave y’all should all join and kill each other

Agreed. I think it would do a lot to combat the soyboy epidemic.

Also, I think it would smooth out a lot of social problems that come from living in insular social bubbles.

What an original thought. This is you, probably in the wheel chair.

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We need every men to stand against the common enemy of all eastern European countries: Russia
Even tho Russia isn't much a threat nowadays
Army is also a very good way to make boys more nationalistic, I mean compare sweden's nationalism to Finland's

This is why I support mandatory service. If every male serves, society is a lot more in unison as a whole, since they all served their nation. Right now military is more of a subculture in America which is why we have obnoxious veteran culture, vets isolating themselves from society, etc.

Sorry bub, I’m a pretty normal guy. You’re probably the welfare queen killing people for no reason

Yes conscription is 5/5 would do again.

Building a system upon volunteering creates a favourable environment for free-riders. If you don't punish traitors, you are rewarding traitors.

We want to reward those who are useful and honourable, we want to punish those that are not useful and dishonourable. Any system that doesn't do this is rotten.

>getting military education for free
>taking reasonable orders from reasonable people
Wow so oppressive. Ain't nobody tellin' ME what to do!

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Yes.

For the United States? Definitely!

>look at me in my uniform I’m so important I take orders without question it don’t matter if I gotta shoot kids in the face I’m such a great guy not a robot at all

Keep lying to yourself

Yes. Any major war is likely to entail massive causalities. Having a large pool of partially trained manpower to draw on will make it easier to replace those casualties and continue fighting.

>t. french

Can't tell if you're all such tools or if this is a Military shill thread

>We should force MORE people to die for Israel

>conscription
>you have to kill people
No you burger retard. Conscription is recieving free military education, which is also a great protection against tyrannical governments.

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women too, equality and all that

No but all men who want to vote ought to be required to serve in their nation's military (or reserves)

Could jews be required serve in the military and to put boots on the ground in all wars they instigate?

If your conscripted you do whatever the fuck they tell you. You are a dog

>not refuting my point

A strong resilient military is exactly what the kikes don't want. Why do you think they've been pushing women and trannies in the army?

Only if it's a nation worth serving. America right now, isn't.

Without conscription you get only those retards that support mindless war have an military education. With conscription, you also have anti-war high IQ trained in warfare.

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>thought the military would be a nice career path
>begin process start watching videos about the military
>basically treated like a child/schoolkid
I was always turned off by this, plus the thought of niggers being your superior made me disheartened

Don’t you think that military training will help the problem a little bit though?

You would know Bruce..

I have a way better auestion:

Should all women be required to serve in their countries military reserves?

>your
Compulsory education failed to teach you to not be a moron, so compulsory military service would probably fail to teach you to not be a soyboy.

Not in civilized societies. Only commands that have a military education purpose has to be followed, and you can request orders in written form if you think it's unreasonable and send them to higher ups.

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>A strong resilient military is exactly what the kikes don't want
Yes because SO many nations are a threat to Israel and Jews.
>Why do you think they've been pushing women and trannies in the army?
So more people die for Israel

I wouldn't have minded. In hindsight it would have been a really constructive post highschool gap year (or years, depending).

>plus the thought of niggers being your superior made me disheartened
Non-whites are increasingly rare the more difficult or dangerous a job is.

>getting military education for free
I want some of that free education.

I would fight for my country's freedom, but not for some bunch of sandniggers.

>Jow Forums supports traditional, natural order gender roles
>Jow Forums also supports sending women to battle

Which one is it faggots?

Tones of veterans come back from service and have no clue how to fit back into society and have higher risks of mental illnesses and suicide.

You know what countries don’t have that problem? Countries where everyone serves.

>Getting this defensive over a typo
What’s wrong not used to not getting praised all the time for being a useless welfare queen?

Not right now, no.

Fucking brainlet.

You are conditioned to follow orders without thinking sorry if you disagree

Why not? People go into the military and almost always come out more nationalistic and right wing. Even the blacks and women do.

Sure, fight for the ZOG goy. Oh wait, burgers do that already.

In countries like Finland, Switzerland and South Korea there isn’t a veteran problem because everyone is a veteran. Military is just a part of life in those countries, just as high school is in America.

No, it's slavery, and that's illegal.

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>muh slavery is wrong

Fuck off lolbergtardian

not an argument

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I think a small elite volunteer military would be stronger.

That's because of a purpose. You have probably never experienced no-sleep for days and extreme physical activity on deficit calories at the same time so that you begin see visual hallucinations. In warfare, you also have to add the factors of trauma from seeing friends die and stress from being near death. That's when you want to have an officer that has slept well near you because he's in better mental condition and able to make faster decisions. Then it's a good time to just follow orders.

If you lose your ability to think critically after a short time in the army, you probably never was much of a thinker to begin with.

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Why waste time and resources building a substandard conscript army that you can barely equip when you could just invest it into a bigger professional army?

Most english speaking nations are completely isolated from any sizable land based threat. Better to have a smaller, better equipped and trained force that you can actually deploy overseas than the waste of space that conscripts are.

See but if they actually learned anything useful from their service, that wouldn’t matter.

Those ads of veterans going on to all be docotors or whatever after they serve is proganada bullshit.

I’d argue military service can even have adverse effect on people because you aren’t taught to think or function like an i Individual. You need someone to tell you what to do at all times.

Only if they sign some sort of social contract with the government. Without it I don't see why it should be anything other than compulsory

Let me know when a country with mandatory military serves does anything of significance.

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service*

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I disagree. The conscript army is one that will bring a more diverse range of skills, knowledge and experience than a purely professional force.

the military and the jews who own us will NEVER do conscription. that was the main lesson the kikes learned from Vietnam. The reason they can make the US do all this war on terror bullshit indefinitely is because it doesnt directly affect the vast majority of americans. if everyone who had a son had to worry about him getting blown up by an IED, there'd be more widespread opposition to us doing our bullshit in the mideast. since its all people who volunteered to go die for israel, its hard for most people to give a shit

That is true mainly for special forces that have to perform special operations. Special forces are special for a reason, they can't make the bread & butter of a military.

An artillery piece or the choreography of a jaeger unit is not that complex that you need ''elite'' men doing it. After about 6 months of daily 12 hours of training, there's little benefit in more training. It's pretty much same in everything: diminishing returns the better you get and the real difference between an ''elite'' and regular conscript becomes irrelevant. Finnish conscripts regularly have exercises with professional NATO troops and there's nothing indicating that professionals would be better than conscripts. A trained man with a gun is a man with a gun, he can't get special superpowers like in games.

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We have been found out.. no wonder Finns kill themselves.

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Conscription is good, However iam certain a majority of people on this board are too autstic for it, I don't even think the majority of Jow Forums would be classed as category C soldiers in our conscription system.

Yes, nearly every country that does this has better people (western countries), or at least better men. It fights degeneracy, and lets men learn discipline, and how to fight should they ever need to.

Ok

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Yes. It gives people a more realistic perspective and makes it harder to start pointless wars.

That's probably because US military draws a certain type of persons. People that want to become doctors probably don't join the US military.

Around here people that go into conscription (70% of men) are economically more successful 10 years after conscription than those that didn't go, according to a study. Ambitious people that get into CEO positions usually have a background as Second Lieutenant, highest rank you can get as a one-year conscript.

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Yes. Bring back national service.

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Haha thats some ghosting right there.

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I would say yes. It would be more difficult for retard Americans to ignore foreign wars if their son had to go into the military, and we might be able to rouse the masses to hold the government more accountable.

Plus, the military teaches you discipline, gets you in shape, and makes it impossible to be a soft faggot neet like most people here. Our chances during the race war would be increased dramatically if everyone here served.

> Should all men be required to serve in their countries military reserves?

All able men should be trained to defend their own people. and after successful completion of their training allowed to own firearms.

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I love how the Finn is winning here, I wish conscription could happen here (UK, I live in Northern Ireland) But it would never happen, I believe that the state deserves to have me serving them for at least 1 year because they have given me a decent life with benefits

It's an absolute cancer.

Literal legalized enslavement. Imagine losing one year of your life for nothing, doing worthless, inane shit. The "skills" you "learn" there can easily and more effectively be learned with a couple of Jewtube videos and at the shooting range.

The only thing it produces are disgruntled, angry young men who feel like they've been cheated out of one year of their lives. Wouldn't be surprised if most of them would rather just ventilate their officer's head if shit were to actually go down.

I dodged it, luckily, along with 4 other guys at the medical exam center. The other 40 guys didn't make it and had to be enslaved.

What's worse is after the 1-year enslavement, you're not off the hook. Mandatory 2-week enslavement ("training" they call it) follows every couple of years. If your job accounts for this enslavement, you're lucky. If not, well, that's minus 2 weeks of your vacation time.

Also this:

If the people don't want to protect the country, let it burn. Fuck the state and fuck mandatory enslavement.

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not to mention the endless skills that can be gained from the military, i think whoever disagrees are either lazy faggots or delusional

This, there's a reason why all the legions of normalfags out there don't give a single fuck about foreign policy and getting into wars. Because when we go to war, our service is volunteer-only. There's zero threat to any of these complicit normalfags and warhawks. They don't have to worry about their lives, the lives of their children, friends, husbands, etc. We'd be much more discerning about supporting these bullshit wars if people actually had to risk serving.

And thus they should get no vote or be eligible to run for office.
Service guarantees citizenship

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Basé, j'espère que vous gagnerez enfin votre indépendance.

Yeah man.

I played a game where I was a Navy SEAL now I’m practically am one. Saw a YouTube video and even shoot guns at a stationary target located at a known distance in a controlled environment once a month. I’m an operator.

You know what I'm talking about, you bootlicker cuck.

I'm skeptical of ''doing service for the state'' but conscription is a bigger service to the People. A trained and armed population is really the only thing that can prevent tyranny.

Wrong.

>and more effectively be learned with a couple of Jewtube videos
>I dodged it
So you dodged conscription and think you're eligible to claim that you need ''a few youtube vids'' to learn warfare? Can you show me those youtube videos? Learning to shoot at a stationary target and learning to work as a part of a infantry unit are two VERY different things.

You seem bitter despite dodging it. It's the same on this side of the lake, all the losers that are bitter and complaining about conscription are the ones that dodged it.

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Should a civilian pay for private training if he doesn't want to join the military? Would he even be an equal match for the average soldier

Yea, send trumps kids and bankers first also politicians.

>national service
Service to politicians and the rich.

You're being pretty fucking dumb though. What do you think people do 12 hours a day for 6 months in the army? Why do you think they don't spend 1 week instead if that's all you need? It'd be a fuckton cheaper. Finnish conscription is highly optimized and 6 months is absolutely minimal necessary amount to train for a basic infantry role.

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>Being this much of a soyboy

t. ryssä

I'm bitter because this bullshit is constantly supported and enabled by a very vocal minority. Most people see this as a waste of their life.

As for the "stationary target" bullshit, if you're too stupid to apply a bit of physics to adjust for movement, you deserve to die. You can only become a game hunter if you've had extensive military training, am I right?

Basic camping and shooting skills are literally all you need to survive the wilderness.

You sure as fuck were, with all your famed training. For Vietnamese and Afghan farmers, no less.

t. "please let me die for you, big daddy (((government)))!"

No I don’t. You sound like an angry NEET confounded by the fact someone once held you accountable for your own actions.

not if the country serves the greater good of israel

t. Never been in a firefight lmao

Its limited service training for young folk.
CMT in the 50s didn't cost us that much, just give em old reservist kit out of date dpm and fire arms.

I wouldn't fight for these corrupt cumstains, not a chance. I'd rather desert at the first solid chance.