Just watched pic related for the first time last night.
I have never been so disgusted towards women. What was Kubrick trying to say with this movie? Do these type of things actually happen among the elites? What are your thoughts of the movie Jow Forums?
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More like this is a tame version of what they do
Wow. This shit actually gave me a feeling of anxiety through the entire movie
>Do these type of things actually happen among the elites?
Western civilization is in utter narcissistic decline. Thus, if you are a 98%er (not the wealthy 1% and not the media 1%) your enjoyment in (not of) a film is in direct proportion to how much it totalizes your own internal sense of failure. If Kubrick was trying to tell you something, he had to do so in using symbols and mythology that were not in his control.
It doesn't matter if these things are realistic depictions of what elites do. It matters whether you think so, literally or metaphorically. How can Tom Cruise's character, wealthier than any of us will ever be, represent the everyman? You are Tom Cruise's character. You have things you thought you wanted but they don't make you happy, and yet you are unable to fathom why they don't make you happy. You're not being killed with an axe, you're being killed with cotton. So if there is some shadowy cabal behind things its ways must be strange and unknowable (it can't be your failures, even though you are the common denominator in all of your failures).
But the Lovecraftian problem with describing the unknowable is terrible in film, where you have to show the unknowable. One way a filmmaker could manage this is to have powerful figures do things you can't do, but even more powerful would be for them to have a ritual in which they do things you can't do, because the ritual carries extra significance: not only do they do things you can't, they regularly do them, and you can't even fake doing them without getting caught.
The elites are portrayed as having a sincerity which you lack. It is ironically portrayed in a masquerade, the message being: they're faking it, too. But the everyman doesn't understand this, and neither do you. If Holden Caufield stormed the ballroom and called them all phonies, would it help? (No. Because Holden Caufield was a "troubled young man." Your narcissistic defenses of your failures has an escape hatch.)
I knew a girl who said this was her favorite movie. She did not seem red pilled. She was a liberal. What does this movie choice say about her?
i like the scene where nicole kidman urinates then wipes her pussy. i used to loop the wipe and it looked like she was masturbating. somefag needs to gif this
Yea I recall that. I actually find woman urinating annoying. Like it bothers me if my girlfriend leaves the door open or if I hear it. So the movie opens with Nicole Kidman doing that just made her actions at the party more detestable in my opinion.
Good post
You sound like you think you know what you are talking about, but you are clearly a retard.
>Your narcissistic defenses of your failures has an escape hatch.
what is it what is it
I sense I missed something
I am interested but I don't get it
i blame my hangover not my stupidity
One of my favourites. A great Christmas film too. Yes these things do happen umoungst elites.
>Kubrick finished Eyes Wide Shut draft
>sends it in
>3 days later he mysteriously dies
>film release delayed
>upon release more than 40min of original footage cut
>no copy of missing footage
it's just a coincidence
>Do these type of things actually happen among the elites
the spoiled rich kids in hollywood have a club where they dress up in bunny costumes - blue for guys and pink for girls. totally anonymous sex
10/10 idea.
40 seconds*
Don't exagerate
I agree with you, i just want to add that manny of the 1% suffer the exact same thing
They do/buy everything and feel unhappy
As you said, cultural decline
Is that true? I could believe the missing footage. Film felt somewhat incomplete and lacking after the initial ritual night.
The escape hatch is the poisoned well. Because Holden is a troubled young man, therefore you can dismiss things he says. The role of the teacher that tries to talk Holden down near the end is to talk to the reader. Note the teacher doesn't say that Holden is wrong about anything. He's telling him that merely being correct is not enough. In the end you have to live with your knowledge. If Holden could, he might have grown to realize that the phony rituals were themselves the manifestation of living with certain kinds of knowledge. You once did a terrible thing to someone that loved and trusted you, but you still have to sleep at night and not kill yourself. How? Multiply this by an entire society. What sort of perverse stupidity would we engage in merely to sleep at night? This is the role of our everyday stupid phony rituals. But Holden doesn't know this and neither do the teenagers reading the book in high school.
So long as Holden is not John Galt you don't have to face him down. Holden lets you off the hook, but John Galt doesn't. And so The Catcher in the Rye is a beloved book and Atlas Shrugged is regularly dismissed as cardboard and long-winded. The Catcher in the Rye is a psychological defense against Atlas Shrugged.
>leaf
>kys
Btw in those 40 seconds according to his daughter when Cruise started his Journey in the mansion he found a room with a table in the middle with a human size pentagram on it and a knife above it
Probably where the lady was sacrificed
proof? Pics? So hot
You could arrange something like this
Never seen it, give me the tl;dr on the kinky shit that happens
The original book is about antisemitism. Kubrick flipped it around.
Sexual temptations override rational behavior.
She literally explains that to him when she says she was tempted to cheat on him with the navy guy even though it would have destroyed their family.
>I agree with you, i just want to add that manny of the 1% suffer the exact same thing
>They do/buy everything and feel unhappy
Right. It's a masquerade.
His eyes were opened after smoking weed.
So the "rich people" in the ritual actually were jews?
Her eyes were wide shut.
Kubrick movies are great. You always see something new every time you watch one. This film is based on a book called Dream Story. Knowing that (haven't read the book) I see the whole movie as a dream, starting with the pot smoking in the beginning. In the end, when the mask is found on the pillow, its to make you think 'she was there' or something, but I recently came to the conclusion that the mask means the only thing that happened in the film that was REAL was the costume party, and was Kubrik's way of saying "This kind of shit happens in real life"
Kubrick was a jew
This should be enough information for people who haven't seen the movie
Why are women so weak.
Really good movie, watched (again) recently with a friend.
I keep meaning to do an "if only you knew how bad things really are" with that scene at the end with Cruise holding his head in his hands.
She is a kinky
Many say that liberalism aim to mímic satanism/sabbateanism
The reality is that it doesnt, but all aim to the same thing / have the same foundations, radical individualism
What does that mean?
she already knew because her father is one of the pedo elite and she witnessed it all since childhood. Look up Pedophiles Down Under.
no proof. no pics. it's a thing for the paris hilton/lindsay lohan type clique. the sex is all pretty much doggy style
I wish I knew, user.
>You once did a terrible thing to someone that loved and trusted you, but you still have to sleep at night and not kill yourself. How? Multiply this by an entire society.
neat
> The Catcher in the Rye is a psychological defense against Atlas Shrugged.
That's it then, time to read AS.
It stops us killing our babies
I wondered that. I used to like her. She was a vegan and into stuff like putting tea outdoors at night and making “moon tea.” She would get cupped which is when you put hot glass cups on your back... some kind of massage therapy. She smoked cigars at parties saying it made men look at her funny. Yes she was a vegan health exercise nut. She quoted feminists and said she never wanted to marry, and then got married a year or so after college when she found the real world too scary to be alone (plus she had a useless degree) I feel so dumb having wasted time pursuing her.
He was indeed a Jew. A Jew who mysteriously died days after the final version of the film was sent to the top film execs, who notoriously made many edits.
The mask on the pillow shows the power of the people that Dr Bill is being warned by; them letting him know that they know who he is, where he lives and that they can get in to his house and his bedroom any time.
didn't he film this in the Rothschild mansion too?
pretty sure that's why they killed him
What do you mean?
degenerates like the movie because they dress like spooky pagan satanists and fuck each other a lot
Yes it happens, but as this user said this version is rather tamed to what actually goes on. Think blood orgies.
That’s what I’m leaning toward. I liked her because she was attracted and wanted to hang out with me. Man I’m dumb.
Paganists? Those were Venetian masks not pagan masks
Kubrick's daughter was held hostage by scientology and he mysteriously died of a (((heart attack))) right when they started editing of the film.
Weakness is malleability, softheartedness, susceptibility to base drives. We need these things when taking care of babies. If women were too strong to put up with babies' shit the species wouldn't survive. Women are weak because we need women to be weak.
So what happens in this movie? Don't really want to put in the time to watch degeneracy.
What a bunch of pseudo-intellectual dribble.
Ok, but why can they not control themselves sexually? Men decide if they are going to cheat but women it just seems to 'happen' or they have no control
>never been more disgusted towards women
all i watched were the red room scenes and i got that too. I'm willing to bet the cut 40 secs are of the movie are of that lady being sacrificed.
All you have to do to fully get the movie is the red room scene.
Personally it was in infuriating experience for me. Definitely worth a watch, as it actually invokes emotions and thoughts for the viewer.
I would not classify this film as degenerate.
I’m going to find a stream and watch this
Women are sexually submissive.
It is on Netflix
whenever someone calls something psuedo intellectual it really means it's actually intellectual compared to everything which isn't. reason is that it doesn't conform to a standard way of thinking and so is difficult to understand. There are many established ways of thinking about things, and when someone thinks in a way which is individualistic people get upset. it's part of group think
Why did the HRC #frazzledrip threads 404?
When this came out on DVD I spent hours fapping to the frozen screen of Nicole Kidman's bare naked ass.
Never watched past that scene.
based
It's believable.
Makes sense. I just hate the idea that men are the dogs and women are always the hurt party. Sure men do shit too but with women it just seems sneaky or something. A woman would rarely blame herself for cheating, it would never be her fault for it happening
You dodged a bullet, burgeranon. Cheers.
Well that was creepy.
Why so infuriating?
you're too dumb just kill yourself already my man
Perhaps she is in some small way. Like many leftists she probably just has a flawed and shallow understanding of who it is that really controls this world and what their motivations are. Yet she still understands there is something extremely disturbing going on.
I agree. It took me a long time to realize that because I was in such a low place in my life when I was with her. Lots of people around me were dying in horrible ways, and I was dealing with problems from childhood, and a feeling of despair. So when it didn’t work out I just felt completely abandoned and alone, but it was for the best.
I think she is still a Scientologist too. Check out her twitter. She is a bit of a nut but seems quite redpilled. I'm sure her father shared with her the way things work in this world.
Infuriating for me I believe, because I have a loving girlfriend for the last 4 years. Completely loyal, innocent, no past relationships all that stuff. This movie gave me anxiety portraying women as irrational beings driven be sexual desire.
I am Tom cruise, Nicole Kidman, his loving wife of 9 years turns his world upside down, really struck a chord with me personally.
Nicole Kidman is attractive but there’s also something motherly about her that I like. I can’t really view her sexually because of this.
I've proudly never watched any of it outside of a few seconds here and there, but I tune it out. That shit is pure brain-poison, user. Yeah, I don't give a fuck that Kubrick made it.
I think anyone can turn someone’s world upside down and send them into chaos.
you can see this with the shopkeeper pimping his underaged daughter to the japanese business men and towards the end of the film, those to old men lure Bill's daughter, more than likely the women at the party are MK Ultra/beta Kitten programming victims used for the sexual gratification of the elites.
Sounds like you need to watch more incest porn videos to complete your conditioning.
TIL Hollywood rich kids are furries.
There is no bottom to the degeneracy.
Would a movie portraying a loyal woman remaining loyal make you feel better? You seem overly sensitive to movies.
Nicole Kidmans father is a pedophile
There's 20-30 mins showing straight up pizza gate shit that got cut and buried.
Kubrick died right after.
(((kubrick)))
Was he a Jew he didn't like what (((they))) were doing?
I don't know about overly sensitive. I think you're overstating the effect the movie had on me. I do take movies I watch very seriously.
This movie made me realize that I may have subconscious distrust of women even my girlfriend
He was Bobby Fischer-level /ourkike/.
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The movie was a documentary, apparently the mansion in the film was a former Rothschild manor
Well, one could say that to trust anyone to 100% is foolish. Everyone including your parents, siblings and wife are humans, and they all have human flaws.
I think this was a major point of Kubricks to convey that sense of confusion and vulnerability to the unknown desires of those you thought you knew and trusted. Had the same effect on me when I saw it in theaters with my gf at the time. The interesting thing is, Kubrick was right. He was warning us about human nature and hidden reality. What I'd pay to see the film he intended to make before they killed him.
/ourkike
never been there, never intend to
>true hebrew hero
It’s funny how the masks Kubrick had commissioned for the both the extras and main characters don’t even come close to the Rothschild ones
I wonder if he tried to explain them and just couldn’t get the message across, or if it was beyond the budget of the film Neither seems likely.
>I have never been so disgusted towards women.
wut?
Men are just as culpable, if not more so, for the degeneracy of the women. That is why most women in the sex industry are drugged up and addicts, because if they were of sound, clear, clean mind, they would not be able to handle the life they are living.
Remember, healthy humans of sound mind and Faith do not live degenerate lives. The people in "Eyes Wide Shut" are satanists. They have no Faith in God or Jesus, but live by satan's rules. So don't compare them to us normal, good humans because there is no comparison. Only when one allows evil influences into their lives do they go down that dark, ugly, sickening, evil road.
It was a movie about infidelity and the husband/wife dynamic.
I think Cruise’s character was possibly gay/bisexual and couldn’t satisfy his wife. Several allusions:
>wife is frustrated, almost left him
>Nick Nightengale x Dr. Bill
>the hotel clerk later on in the film acting weird and flirty
>the Yale students calling Dr. Bill a faggot and a fairy
>Cruise never taps ass
The actress from King of Queens, Leah something is a former scientologist. She has lots of good videos on the subject, including what they do to people who leave or try to leave scientology. The Joe Rogan interview is very good.
Every aspect of the truth he was trying to convey is watered down and diminished because the truth would be so shocking; it would seem too unbelievable if shown in its entirety.
This movie is a watered down version of what the elites actually do. They are pedos, homos, blood drinkers, murderers, shit eaters and donkey fuckers.
I’ve known people of faith who do horrible things and get away with it. It’s like they’re in denial.
More than that, it was about how women are made whores at all levels of society, that is the only role for them to fill, structurally. I think the student calling cruise gay was more a dig at cruise than his character, who does (almost) get laid multiple times by various whores throughout the film so is obviously in pursuit of sexual desire which is the carrot he is lead with as he goes from one party to another
It's been several years since I last watched this movie. I don't remember but is it explained how the others can see that Cruise's character does not belong at the masquerade?
If not explained in the movie, are there any interesting theories?
Quality bread btw.