Who was in the wrong?

Both fuck this meme country

The globalist socialist liberal leftist shills.

Im a northern yankee scumbag and even i know the north is wrong. When the union won that war thats when big government won amd we all lost our rights, fuck the niggers

The people that died for niggers to be free.

Is that even a question?

>division of the US would only prevent every major tragedy of the 20th Century that has fucked up this world today

FTFY

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Both sides of the war were trying to defend their way of life. That is the job of every american citizen.

The South. All they had to do was pay back the Feds its debt and they could have seceded and still owned niggers.

The north.

>We killed half the country simply because "the institution of slavery is morally repugnant"
>We specifically stipulated that slavery was an acceptable punishment for incarcerated Americans, and have more prisoners than Communist China
Really makes you think

war profiteering is a time-honored Swedish tradition

Both sides.

The South didn't want to free the slaves, nor deport them. They wanted to keep them as free labor while having each slave count as a full vote.

See how that could end up being a problem? Thus, the 3/5 compromise.

The North fucked up by freeing the slaves instead of deporting, although there's rumor of Lincoln planning deportation before he was shot.

Either way, both sides used niggers like property and both sides tried offering full citizenship for joining their respective armies.

But that's ONLY covering the slavery aspect, the civil war entailed so much more than that. Slavery was only one of the minor issues leading to the war.

The jews

How’s it going Cletus?

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That war wasn't about slavery. It was about self determination vs federalism. Slavery was a secondary issue.

There wasn't a British loyalist faction that would have resulted in a 3 way civil war

>prevent every major tragedy of the 20th Century that has fucked up this world today
t. retard

>forcing convicted criminals to work is the same as chattle slavery
again, retard.

>It was about self determination vs federalism.
yeah, over slavery

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>be US govt
>make the point that opponent is morally wrong
>invade their territory
>free lower class of population
>completely demolish their infrastructure and economy

What were we talking about again?

Is enslaving blacks actually worse than having them be free? They probably were happier and healthier as slaves.

Both. Should have made the south sell their slaves to the sugar plantations outside the country.

None and All.
How can you be wrong if you fight for what you believe in?
How can you be right if you fight your own brothers?

Union

>Cletus-posting
kys

Not when the South pushed for each slave to be a FULL extra vote in government.

Sounds too much like California and spics to me.

Lord Blackwood

the traitors were evil bastards.

Geez, you burgers don't even know your own history. It's no mystery that you could be undermined this easily. Slavery was very minor, it's just that some uppity niggers rub it in your face that you actually believe their bullshit after a while.

>what was reconstruction

>Fight to keep in place a Jew-started institution where, shocker, they bring millions of foreigners to White countries
>Fight to abolish that Jew-started institution but not deport them all back to Africa, instead giving them rights and causing White countries like the US to be fucked over for generations
Both of them are in the wrong

It's ironic that the same people who ended slavery and let niggers go free are the same ones getting killed by niggers and having their lands and their constitutional rights taken away from them by niggers. If anyone who was born before 1900 knew what niggers would turn into today, every single person on the planet would have dedicated their lives to shipping every nigger back to Africa

That's silly. That was an act of retaliation to Republican power-mongering.

>let me tell you about your own countries history based on memes I see on Jow Forums!

no, youre just some stupid leaf speaking with authority on something he clearly knows dick about. Every state wrote an article of secession, and they all said they were leaving because of slavery.

>what was reconstruction
A massive failure

Prove me wrong

Pro-Tip: You can't

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This. They both fucked up.

But was Lincoln planning on deportation before being shot?

And whos fault was that user? What was the name of that insurgent-terrorist group that did everything in their power to sabotage reconstruction?

Oh it wasn't just the South; the North was in the wrong too. They were the ones who pushed for larger federal government.

Both sides were wrong.

>What was the name of that insurgent-terrorist group
The Union

To be fair, Lincoln wanted the blacks freed and returned to their home countries, which is why he was popped.

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>>all said
You're retarded.

>WW1 was started by America
>WW2 was started by America
>the world was a beautiful peaceful place up until America took over as the world power in the late 1940s
youre a retard spouting

dixiebooism is a gateway drug into being an anti-american cuck

The authoritarian imperialists who betrayed the spirit of the American Revolution.

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>the "slavery was only a minor issue" meme
support of or opposition to slavery were some of the biggest issues in the pre-war years. Don't tell me the 3/5ths Compromise, Missouri Compromise, Bleeding Kansas, restraint in Western expansion for fear of empowering one side or the other in the senate etc. were some irrelevant footnotes of history.
>no you see the Yankees hated freedom SO MUCH that they put a fort right in the way of our cannonballs

>no argument
as expected. You clearly didnt even read anything in the image I posted earlier, all with sources btw.

lmao calling someone cletus is as effective an insult as posting your cock cage

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>>I have sources therefore I am correct.
I could quote sources that say that blue is actually fucking yellow. You're legitimately retarded. I feel bad for you.

The Confederates were vastly more imperialist than literally any president in US history.

Well of course it is if you're fucking retarded, like you clearly are. No shit slavery was a big issue sherlock, slavery had economic repurcussions you unbelievable retard, which was the main concern, not about letting niggers go free, even the North didn't give a shit about niggers, it was about the INSTITUTION of slavery and the power struggle between North and South and the fate of the western territories to garner votes for one side or the other

>Fight to keep in place a Jew-started institution where
What is it about """whites""" that disables them from accepting responsibility?

>The guys who owned slaves were not authoritarian...

Oh I am laffin

talking to a burger about the civil war is like talking to a normie german about ww2. It's like talking to a brick wall.

>obtaining human capital on the free market
Do you understand what authoritarian means?

Youre embarrassing yourself now user. Just fucking stop you colossal dumbass.

The Confederacy, because they wanted to keep importing negroes.

>completely demolish their infrastructure and economy

...were they supposed to let slavery continue? What the fuck? And they didn't free the lower class, they freed slaves.

>who was in the wrong?
The assholes who brought slaves here in the first place 300 years later and were still feeding/clothing/housing these people because they cant take care of themselves and all they do is bitch and complain.

The North.

This country was founded on the notion of self-rule. A significant number of states wanted to self-govern, they should have been permitted. It's really that simple.

South was full of liberal nigger loving mutts who happened to be back by Jews. So the union was in the right.

No, youre just a really stupid canadian who thinks he has "secret knowledge" by spouting the same tired meme ideas as every other retard on Jow Forums. Notice how you havent posted shit and are so stupid that you thought calling me out for having sources was somehow a failure on my part?

This you lefty liberal faggots deserved everything you got.

You're completely correct, I was most arguing with people who (seemed) to believe the Civil War was some kind of federal government vs. state government grudge match.
"Slavery was the main driving issue that lead to the Civil War" =/= "Yankees love blacks"

>WW1 was bankrolled by America
>WW2 was also bankrolled by America
>the world was a beautiful peaceful place up until America took over as the world power in the late 1940s

No, but it became an infinitely worst place when America got drunk on its own power and started running riot across the entire globe.

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I do. I understand that masters had total authority over the slaves. I understand that masters used their political influence to run states like fiefdoms. I understand that masters passed laws like the fugitive slave act which forced the peculiar institution onto everyone else.

A significant number of states wanted to self-govern in regards to slavery, and govern others into hunting down their escaped slaves for them.

>...were they supposed to let slavery continue?

You do realize that slavery still existed in the North, right? Oh, wait, I forgot... they don't actually teach REAL history anymore.

>>WW1 was bankrolled by America
stopped reading there. Thanks for proving my point about dixieboos being nothing more than self-hating anti-american cucks thought with this dogshit conspiracy trash that only third world muslim retards and communist believe in.

You're such a precious thing. If you weren't likely a spic I might take you seriously.

>still no argument

It still existed, but was ended shortly thereafter. And that was mostly a measure to ensure that certain states (i.e. Kentucky, and Maryland) did not join the Confederacy.

>You do realize that slavery still existed in the North, right?
no it didnt. It existed in southern states that simply didnt secede. Then Slavery was abolished entirely in 1865.

Lay off the molymeme. You aren't entitled to an argument.

Literally nobody in the entire world thinks the war wasn't about slavery. kys

>invade foreign nation and annex it in its entirety
>not imperialist
k

If tomorrow half the country declared coal-burning illegal, and the coal-burning states seceded, then in the ensuing war the environmentalists ventured to erase the cultural history of all coal-burning states - What would you say that war was about?
Fossil fuels?
EXCLUSIVELY so?
Then, I'm sorry, but you're acting like one seriously superficial twat.

>RMS Lusitania sunk literally because its hold was stuffed full of American-made ordinance
>dogshit conspiracy trash

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What if the north and south joined separate factions in either of the world wars? A round two would be almost inevitable if the continent were split in two.

The ruling class of the Old South were libertarian on almost everything but the slave issue. A common saying was that the only thing the government was good for was catching escaped slaves.

>foreign

And do you know what happened in the lead up to the Civil War? Specifically, in regards to the expansion west? Guess what the Southern states wanted in all of the new territories.

>foreign nation
except it wasnt, it was a part of the country breaking off. How is a civil war invading a foreign nation you ass?

Again, go look up the confederate plans for south america and the Caribbeans before you go around calling others imperialist like some fucking commie

Literally most people who know about it outside of the USA know it was about federalism. Like I said, it's equivalent to talking with a German about ww2.

Confederacy was right for the wrong reasons, Union was wrong for the right reasons.

>Y*nkoid calling the south lefty liberals

>ww1 happened because of the Lusitania
thats right cuck, keep debasing yourself and your country with stupid memes islamist and left wingers make

The super liberal mutts in the south wanted to keep fucking niggers while the north wanted to ship them back to africa. Keep embarrassing yourself.

based black man

lol what kind of Naive American are you?
Nobody gives a shit about niggers now, why the fuck would they care then??
>Your head is lodged firmly up your ass.

Lincoln didn't give a fuck about slavery, he wanted to preserve the union.

Quote:

"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so"

Whoever told their special needs colony to import niggers en masse. Daddy Britain

It was either that or poverty we didnt have factories like in the north yanks could dream of being a big factory owner we couldn't it was slaver owner or bust.

>I do. I understand that masters had total authority over the slaves.
That's not authoritarianism (at least not the governmental sort you're trying to push against). It's their own household.
That's as authoritarian as a father deciding what school he sends his children to and who gets to eat first at the dinner table. It has nothing to do with government rule.