Commies are just soyboy larpers who sit around shitposting all day

No I'm talking about WWII

Yes you are

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Im glad we agree

So they just murdered a guy?

But commies and kurds are so easy to deal with after they do what you want

>communists are weak soyboy LARPer slacktivists!
>but they also somehow control the universities, media and have managed to destroy america

>I'd rather collaborate with fascists
>allies with neoliberal government to shutdown even vaguely nationalist rallies and help oppress the white working class
I'm not even a neoliberal my dude. National Socialism died, and then Communism died. Neoliberalism is king and basically all movements are infiltrated and serve the interests of the (((international clique))) whomst has the money to spend on spying on every opposition movement and funding multiple fake opposition movements. Neoliberalism is actually fairly comfy though despite its soullessness, I'm more worried about the dystopian hellhole the neoliberal world is in the process of transitioning into at the moment.

No user, that's the Jews. Communists don't control shit.

Collapse of the west.

What's the difference? I thought the Jews were the communists? Of course, in right conspiracy land you an just make anything you want up. Its like fucking doctor who, there's a bit of everything in there; communists, marxists, gender commies, jewish marxist commies, vampires, jews, moon nazis, lightbulbs that can communicate with computers, soros controlling the whole world despite the fact he's only worth as much as Donald Trump, take your pick I guess.

this group is called dhkpc and it's heavily infiltrated by both turkish, greek and syrian civil services.

also contrary what you guys say here, most militants in this group are turkish alevis not kurds.

*secret services (not civil services)

No one really believes in the moon nazis, that's just to distract the globalists from the hollow earth nazis.

if you rape a communist cunt. is it count as a rape tho?

Communism is a veil for Judaism, don't become their useful idiot goyim

Right. So what exactly are the jews trying to achieve with communism. You do know we ultimately intend to abolish money and hierarchy right?

Just go join a communist commune instead of trying to force your shithead ideology down the throat of others. Western CAPITALIST SOCIETY actually allow you to have your communist microcosm if you want.

Or did you realize that no one actually wants to live like that, so instead you have to force them?

Quick rundown?

But that wasn't real communism

>gender commies
>jewish marxist commies

>Impying we think your shit goes on all day
We know you san francisco queer LARPers. This is a quick funrun between your poz and neg aids wars.

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how u gonna do that with an army of sub 90 iq mutts and jews at the top pulling your strings with all the money of god?
collapse of middle class and unions in the us is not a natural event.it is the progression of a plan.

>Just go join a communist commune
You mean the ones that don't exist in my country, and cannot exist because of land ownership and the appropriation of materials by capitalists? And the point isn't that *I* can simply live in a commune, its the point that the bourgies are stealing 80% of the value of our labour. I mean you cunts get angry about taxes, what about your boss taking most of what you make?

No, he was a corrupt prosecutor

cCc KARA BOĞA

Control, read the Talmud, you'll understand. You know they think you are pigs and monkeys, right?
Money is no problem when Jews are out of the equation and no, it will not eliminate hierarchy since there will still be a ruling class, the government.

Name one (1) example where money and the societal hierarchy were removed via communism. That's right, they tricked retards like you into giving up the hierarchy and fighting for them, while they ruthlessly seized power and executed all opposition.

Homo sapiens are hierarchical creatures, dumbfuck. Don't deny evolution like some creationist.

Sauce?

>"commies are just soyboy larpers who sit around shitposting all day"
True.

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Naw man, all are created equal by god, except women who are way dumber, and dark skinned people. who are dumber. It's all your problem, you aren't clearly and definable better, it's whatever the kikes teach you.

Communism is maximum centralization of power by the state. Only this way can you enforce abolishment of capitalism and possession of private goods. Communism is then exported globally to be integrated into a one world goverment.

Because it is so centralized it is very easy to control. One only needs to replace a few. Thus it is no surprise the biggest proponents of communism were the stateless jews. Ofcourse this ties into their beast system and moloch baal worship and erradication of spirituality.

Actually to be fair they're pretty good at destroying their own countries because they didn't like working for minimum wage and didn't want to go to community college.

Give up on the wage bullshit and realize how important conservatism is to general happiness. Hitler's Germany succeeded because he focused on conservative lifestyle and put the peoples' happiness over equality and got rid of the jews using capitalism to destroy people. That's what we need to do again; not risk it all for total equality. Join the good guys.

>an army of sub 90 iq mutts and jews at the top pulling your strings with all the money of god?
So now the jews aren't communists? And how can these "90IQ mutts" be on top pulling all the strings? Clearly they're much smarter if they're doing that.

>You know they think you are pigs and monkeys, right?
Not all Jews follow Judaism, and yeah, just like how Christianity and Islam think I'm literally an agent of Satan because I don't believe in their god. Pretty much all religions say bad things about non-believers, how do you think they stop people leaving the religion?

>Money is no problem when Jews are out of the equation and no, it will not eliminate hierarchy since there will still be a ruling class, the government.
Communism is anarchist. Where you're getting confused is with socialism, which is a transitional period.

>Name one (1) example where money and the societal hierarchy were removed via communism
None because communism hasn't occurred yet. Its consistent with socialism to have money, not communism.

>Communism is maximum centralization of power by the state
Yeah, I remember that part of the communist manifesto where marx said that. Communism is stateLESS. You're getting confused with socialism.

yup.but it does reward brown nosing assholes and nerds to rat on neighbors and others giving them a false sense of power.really its just selling ur own out perpetuating the slavery set up by the jew while they rape,pillage and plunder.all jew zionists want is unbridled theft.to jew everyone on planet earth with no consequences.

>implying you have to be strong and brave to infiltrate and subvert the system
I actually respect the strength and determination of the Bolsheviks more than current-day commies, who just stay in the shadows and bide their time like rats and fleas.

Corrupt how?

So start one.

You are just a lazy retard gibs-me-dat. Stop attriuting your own failures to others. Socialist societies collapsed simply because 99% percent of people don't want to live in forced poverty.

Infact the most communist societies that have ever existed are cloisters.

And no the "bourgeois" do not steal 80% of the value you create. If you weren't being "exploited" by the "bourgeois" you would be even poorer since you are evidently to stupid to make something of yourself.

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russia,bolsheviks.thats what im referencing.closest the world has ever gotten to pure communism.split hairs call it marxist whatever,doesnt matter it all adds up to murder of 100's of milions of people.jews controlling the show with no opposition.add now,race mixing and it lasts much,much longer because the rank and file are sub 90 iq morons.

Bide their time for what? According to you lot, communist already run everything, so please tell me how neo-liberalism is the prevailing economic theory among western governments right now?

Wrong. The bourgies are the fattest, laziest most parasitic creature on this planet. They do zero work and just steal everything the proletariat make. Yes, I am a gibs-me-dat for the means of production so I and my fellow workers can go and make shit without those fucking worthless cunts stealing 80% of it without doing any work. Please tell me, what "work" has Jacob Rees Mogg done lately? Absolutely fuck all, the man hasn't created a single thing with his own hands in his entire life.

>muh 100 gorillion
Complete myth and if you used the same criteria for deaths under capitalism, it would amount to over 1 billion.

I can tell you have never worked in a factory.

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You should be proud, those are some real badasses.

It hasnt occured because its impossible:
While you can shift from a republic to a communist authoritarian goverment, the next step is a meme.
You cannot switch from a centralized authority to an anarchy. The first rule of any system is to protect itself. So the authoritarian centralized government will never disappear on its own accord, or will go back to a corrupt republic ruled by oligarchs that took for them the pieces of the dismantled state.
And even if it was possible, anarchy is not a permanent thing but a transition.
People will create groups, groups will compete, and eventually, one will form a new government.
Not even taking into account that an anarchy is unable to repel agressions from a organized neighbor. Tanks and drones are not something individuals can combat without the tools provided by an organized society
So what about spain ? Well, the communists fought with equipment provided by the soviets. Anarchism doesnt build factories.
So its all a meme.
But the worst flaw of this idiotic ideology is: most people do not want it. The whole thing is based on the naive idea that everyone has the same goal as you. They dont. Communism is always imposed by force, with violence and destruction. Because its retarded, and become violent when faced by this simple fact.

I've worked in a factory 5 times mate. 3 times for morrisons gadbrook in rudheath since its the only fucking place to get work in a 90 mile radius around there, other than the other factory I worked in twice, the morrison's bacon factory in winsford. Look, stop fucking throwing out these stupid fucking accusations. Sargon does it and its fucking annoying because 100% of the time he gets proven to not have a clue who he's insulting. You on the other hand, given the general age and persuasion of the alt-right, I can certainly say have never in a factory, but I suppose that's a good thing because I don't support child labour.

Most of socialists these days are socialists because they are poor. Watched too many so called "leftist" getting an inheritance, and next day their wild hair was cut and they had suddenly financial advisors, demands and generally being even more PRICKS.

True socialists are as rare as true nationalists or true libertarians. When the shit hits the fan, they all run back to mommy/daddy/the state.

I'm not alt right, I'm just not a commie retard. I identify as a centrist
I've worked in two factories and one that makes electronics. All in bluecollar positions

Just go join a fucking cloister ffs. There you will live with poeple who all work hard for "the common good" and believe in things that have no bearing on reality.

Joining a cloister won't do shit for me since you'll still be forced to partake in the market and I'm in uni. Capitalism hasn't survived this long by just leaving communes alone.

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Communism is jewish, as was (((Marx))). The real Socialism was the pre-Marxian German Socialism which you call “reactionary Socialism”.

>Dies from a punch
You are larpers. Neo Nazis are much more dangerous but there aren't as much as antifa.

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>destroying their own countries

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And states will never let them alone. A serious flaw for an ideology : not being able to survive competition with other systems. It doesnt work if it cannot survive. The Commune of Paris tried, and got crushed easily by monarchists and republicans. Thats why its a meme. Not that it doesnt offer good criticism of capitalism, just the wrong solutions.

>It doesnt work if it cannot survive
That's just stupid and not really an argument as to why you shouldn't agree with something, because obviously that just means if I can fight capitalism and win then I was in the right all along. Capitalism can't survive forever: its an infinite growth model based on something finite. The cracks are already starting to show: marx said that as automation and better understanding of production methods become more prevalent, profits will start to decline. That is happening. Why do you think outsourcing is a thing.

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As a matter of fact, yes, antifa are faggots in France. They rely on overwhelming numbers, but individually, are not worth shit. Lots are sons of middle class rich families, attending universities or expensive private schools, rest are punks and other leeches.
Skinheads, like the goons of Serge Ayoub, are on the opposite few, but very dangerous. The guy in your article was a HEC student (school for globalist elites) attacking a baker apprentice in the name of the proletariat (kek) at many vs 1. He took one punch, his head hit concrete, and he died like a little faggot.

It is stupid to pretend something unable to survive can work. Its basic logic. A working ideology includes, above all, the possibility to exist. Its the first prerequisite. Otherwise its a meme.
And automation will not change anything. Rich will have robots to serve their needs, and poor will starve. And get killed by loyal drones if they revolt. Marx never imagined robots. So the ideology is not only idiotic, but completly obsolete because of technology.

this is why you need people like stalin. if spineless cucks like khrushchev and gorbachev hadn't fucked things up for everyone we'd be living in a global communist utopia by now

Here in Germany the Antifa is rather dangerous. Pretty good organized etc. G20 is the best example. Shame that we don't have such a thing wit neo nazis so they can clean and roam the streets for normal people.

Why neo nazis in France Lebansese?

It all happens in stages. For the past decades, you commies have inserted marxist thought into media, schools and academia, which has come to dominate the culture within these institutions (cultural marxism). After this has been achieved, and the coming generations there will be thoroughly indoctrinated in marxist thought, the paradigm can easily be shifted from social liberalism to undisguised marxism. When this has been achieved, and all from education (schools, academia) to the source of information (media) and entertainment (movies, games, sports, music, art) is filtered through a marxist worldview, communism will rather easily become the dominating political view. Neoliberalism today is in its death throes, the great battle of what will replace it is going to be between nationalism and communism.

Murder is easy. American blacks alone do it thousands of times per year; it's de rigueur. Show us something IMPRESSIVE or something MOMENTOUS, like an entire corporation disbanding or becoming a worker's collective due to Communist pressure.

You're suffering from a sampling error. What you're doing is the same as Lenin saying "oh, capitalism is stupid because it can't survive, we overthrew it therefore we're right", ignoring the fact history didn't stop in 1920. We've got a long, long time left on this Earth and a long history without capitalism. Saying that just because capitalism is on top now means it always will be is just short sighted and silly.

>Rich will have robots to serve their needs, and poor will starve. And get killed by loyal drones if they revolt
Actually, the rich won't be rich anymore, because who are they going to sell their shit to if everyone is starving? The whole point of capitalism is profiting from the proletariat, if the proletariat don't exist, guess what... the bourgeoisie have to become the proletariat.

Nope. Because muslims will never renounce their prophet for marx, blacks are overall to stupid and violent to understand the concepts of common good, and asians are ethnocentrists.
Nonetheless, the west could have become a stalinist federation, and maybe it would have changed many things, in good or bad. But there are too many factors to considerate to answer without a proper study. But yes. Stalinism, which is closer to fascism than anything, can work, since it did for a time. But it has the same problem as fascism and monarchism : succession. Too much relies on one man. Once he is gone, or if he fail, things go wrong.

Right. And who told you this? Where's this coming from? I mean I'd fucking love it if it was true mate, I really would.

>Neoliberalism today is in its death throes
I really wouldn't underestimate those slippery cunts.

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lol at that guys Che shirt. Does he know Che hated America and tried to start a revoultion to destroy the big satan. Che was right but still.

So basically you just want to ruin everyone elses life. If being a functional part of any social order except the one where everyone thinks like you do doesn't do it for you then I have some bad news. Because even if the worlds converts to communism odds are you will be unhappy with that particular communism.

Also going to university? Do you think that you are better than the working class?

Yes. I just want to ruin everyone else's life. That's why I think the things I do, not because I've read up on marxist theory and capitalist theory and come to the conclusion capitalism is fundamentally unstable and based on exploitation and violence. Nope, I just want to ruin people's lives.

>Because even if the worlds converts to communism odds are you will be unhappy with that particular communism.
There's only one form of communism, you're thinking of socialism.

>Also going to university? Do you think that you are better than the working class?
I am working class? Working class in Marx's context was being proletariat, which means you do not own the means of production or employ anyone. Not just literally working.

How stupid are you ?
Capitalism is as old as the civilized world.
There were always rich king/priests/merchants profitting from masses labor. Always. Deal with it. Unlike your meme that cannot survive more than a few months before getting crushed like an insect.
Only the form changed. Profit is only a mean, not an end, and the end is power.
If profit is no longer adequate to provide power, because automation destroy the market, then the elites will turn to something else. You have the illusion that rich people worship money. They dont. They worship what it provides. Power and comfort. People to dominate and control, leasures. Etc. And some may even have other goals, like religious ones (zionism anyone ?).
Another fail. Listen, you are sincere and want your meme to happen, but you are as delusional as people thinking the 3rd reich will resurrect. Instead of trying to make a meme work, and it never will, why not thinking about something that work, is just and can compete with other systems ? You are just, currently, a cultist. Not a thinker.

This.

We need to reclaim our power and not give any to the parasites that have been leeching of us ; theratfaced jews.

Because many ME people here are very invested in our culture, are not muslims, and reject both marxism and capitalism.

Those weren't capitalist were they? They didn't themselves capitalist and they had no concept of the means of production. In feudalism, peasants generally did own of the means of production, it was just that the lords stole their produce through taxation and just outright appropriating it. Capitalism isn't just "buying and selling", its a formal system, hence why there's a name for it. And I know the elite want profit because it represents power, the problem is without profit their power over the proletariat wanes because they lose the one thing they can use to get people on their side and enforce control over everyone else: benefits. The army, state and industrialists aren't going to support the elite anymore if the elite can't give them something they couldn't normally get, which is paid for by profit.

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Idiotic meme. So we should live like cavemen ?
>peasants own the means of production, but the land, the mill and other things,AKA the means of production, are owned by the lord
Lolwut ? Its one or the other. Hint: its the other
Second, you commies like made up words and changing definitions. Dont try with me. You will lose everytime.
Third, the lord provided security, a legal system, justice and grain in case of famines. What anarchy does not.

Based. Nazbol death squads when?

Its not "one or the other", the peasants owned the tools and worked in the mills, and even often lived in them. Also, the Lords weren't private were they? Feudalism was a completely different system to capitalism. It had similarities, obviously, but if capitalism was a truism then we wouldn't need to talk about it. I'm not changing definitions, myst definition of capitalism is that the means of production are owned by "privately" (by the bourgies).

>Third, the lord provided security, a legal system, justice and grain in case of famines
No they didn't, more often it was the workers who protected the lord from those things, not the other way around.

>Right. And who told you this? Where's this coming from?
It's very noticable for anyone who doesn't follow the nonsense that these institutions espouse nowadays. For you it's mostly just business as usual, so you barely notice it. Not to mention the extremely disproportionate amount of left-wingers within media and academia, even more so with radical left-wingers. And look at Hollywood and the music industry, do you think these espouse conservative, nationalist values? Of course they don't, they actively seek to break down and destroy conservative and nationalist culture with their constant presence in our everyday lives, so that they can rebuild it in a culturally marxist spirit with its constant indoctrination. After cultural marxism is achieved, real communism soon follows. It's like boiling a frog alive, only increasing the heat by just one degree at a time, and it barely notices until it is too late.

>I really wouldn't underestimate those slippery cunts
Yeah at least we have a common enemy in them.

>Nazis got blown the FUCK out in the real battle that matters
non nazi here and i'm calling massive bullshit
if things had gone a bit differently and the rest of the west sided with germany, moscow would have been surrounded in under a week. the russian army couldn't even hang with the japanese lol

>Not to mention the extremely disproportionate amount of left-wingers within media and academia
But doesn't that tell you something? Also, left wingers are frozen out of the one type of academia that is actually useful for controlling anything: economics.

>And look at Hollywood and the music industry, do you think these espouse conservative, nationalist values?
Yeah, I do. Hollywood and the music industries are the biggest supporters of capitalism going. They're massive multi-billion dollar industries. Of course they espouse capitalism and shun communism. OK, maybe they don't support social conservatism: why would they? There's nothing in it for them, it doesn't effect their bottom line.

>they actively seek to break down and destroy conservative and nationalist culture with their constant presence in our everyday lives
I don't think they "try". At the end of the day, there's one thing they care about: profits. If pandering to conservatives and nationalists won't get them profit, they're not going to do that. Furthermore, I would argue they kind of are conservative in many ways, they basically just go along with whatever the status quo is. They don't really act to make any changes.

And cultural marxism doesn't exist. Its not a thing, its a conspiracy made up by the nazis. What you're referring to are the Frankfurt school, who ironically hated capitalism because they thought it debased and degenerated true culture by reducing it down to selling shit for profit.

>Brown people attacking brown people

The jews seem to lose the grip on their pets.

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The nobles owned the peasants and the fruits of their labor. In many cases they were disallowed from leaving where they were born even if they had the means to do so. Land ownership implied ownership of the occupants of the land. The merchant class was put under tight restrictions depending on the location and time period.

>left wingers are frozen out of the one type of academia that is actually useful for controlling anything: economics.
it's dumb to use hyperbole if you want to sound smart. there are a lot of ways to control the masses, economics is just one way. arguably the most important way, but still only one of many.

destruction of the collective is in their economic self-interest. the best argument for nationalism is smaller nations are easier to have revolutionary ideas. the ocean is deep, and it's temperature does not change. that metaphor is perhaps the best argument for national identity.

>communists don't try to impact culture
>which is why the cultural revolution in China never happened
pls dont say dumb things

>losing the war against Germany
>gets saved by American capitalism
>"COMMUNISM STRONK!"

You can't force communism on us and we'll kill you if you try. Nobody wants to live in your shit debunked system, you cultist.

>invent political ideology that's just rebranded Talmudism
>it fails in every country it's implemented in
>"Everything in the world but communism is to blame!"

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>control
More like shit up the eduction.

>fascists are pathetic basement dwelling virgins
>but america is a white supremacist nation that underwent a fascist coup by drumph and his cronies

humans are stupid and aren't honest with themselves, well observed.

>But doesn't that tell you something?
Yeah, that the flow of information is largely controlled by those with a certain ideological narrative and that all information is therefore filtered and twisted to suit these people's ideological narrative.

>Also, left wingers are frozen out of the one type of academia that is actually useful for controlling anything: economics.
Because economists realize that communism is a fucking retarded ideology, unfortunately though that usually turns them into mindless neoliberals instead of taking the full step to realize that neoliberalism and communism are just two sides of the same soulless internationalist coin.

>Yeah, I do. Hollywood and the music industries are the biggest supporters of capitalism going
Since when is capitalism not detrimental to either conservatism or nationalism? I point is that the movie/music industry consists of an unholy alliance between neoliberal capitalists and cultural marxists, joined together with the goal of destroying tradition and nationhood, which serves you both, albeit in different ways. You will eventually come into conflict, but for now you are a part of the same side.

>And cultural marxism doesn't exist. Its not a thing, its a conspiracy made up by the nazis
>implying Marx himself didn't want the complete eradication of the nuclear family structure and conservative social norms
>implying cultural revolutions with the aims of eradicating just these didn't happen in most communist countries
Are you just pretending to be this retarded at this point?

We can and we will. But it doesn't matter anyway because capitalism will kill itself at some point anyway. Its inherently unstable. Really all I'm choosing between is ending capitalism early and having communism in space or we can leave capitalism to run its course and have communism in the stone age because the capitalists used all the fucking oil and resources to make fidget spinners and now we're trapped on a doomed planet with no way to get back to the level of technology we had before, subsisting off carrion because climate change has rendered most of the planet inhospitable to us.

Shitting up education would be injecting the right wings paranoid ignorant delusions that have no basis in reality into academia.

Fascists aren't basement dwelling virgins. Fascists on Jow Forums are, but there are legit white nationalist terror cells out there and the general public of america clearly have latent white supremacist leanings even if they don't think they do.

and there are communists fighting in Rojava, training leftist militias here, and the vast majority of the public agrees that the widening class divisions are a problem. the point is that you're just saying "propaganda is often self-contradictory". don't fool yourself into thinking that's an amazing insight.

also way to address the least interesting point please stop being boring.

>NEOLIBERALISM FOREVER!
Ah the classic mistake made through all ages. My ideology is somehow different and will not inevitably collapse like literally everything before it.

The guy wearing that shirt probably hates America and himself too. Also Che was a massive faggot.

No, it tells me that generally, informed people who have studied society and psychology and biology know better than to hold the bigoted and often batshit insane opinions of the right wing.

>Because economists realize that communism is a fucking retarded ideology
No they don't. They act as propaganda arms of the capitalists. What do you think economist do when they leave college? They go straight into """""""""think tanks""""""""" that are really just there to advise the government on what best way to keep capitalism going. I mean of all the fucking fields, economics is the worst. Look at what the fucking havoc milton friedman and his dumb fuck free market ideas did to my country, Britain.

>neoliberalism and communism are just two sides of the same soulless internationalist coin.
See, batshit insanity. How anyone could say something so disconnected from reality is baffling. Fascism is the guard dog of neoliberalism, that's why centrist fuckwits like sargon will sooner defend fascism than communism. You ARE a neo-lib, just a neo-lib on steroids.

>Since when is capitalism not detrimental to either conservatism or nationalism?
Because both are based on protecting capitalism. Again, cultural marxism doesn't exist, its a dumb conspiracy made by the nazis and parroted by people who have no fucking clue what they're talking about.

>implying Marx himself didn't want the complete eradication of the nuclear family structure and conservative social norms
Well yeah, he thought extended families were better. So what. And obviously he wanted conservative social norms gone because they're oppressive and fucking stupid.