What makes Jow Forums hate socialism so much? Any non-meme responses?

The problem with socialism is that its supporters are insufferable faggots.

The prefix crypto- has been around a lot longer than crypto currency my friend.

Lazy commies and niggers (unironically)
Would support natsoc though.

That's not true lol
Unfortunately true, but lolberg fedoras are pretty bad too on your side.

A dozen posts yet no one offers correct answer.
It's immoral and unethical.
It all boils down to direct theft.

Because Jow Forums can't into definitions

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Unsustainable pyramid scheme

It's not like socialists all have the same definition.

Every form of society limits free will, socialism necessarily limits your free will more than capitalism.

Take a look at all the socialist countries in history. They destroyed or are in the process of destroying themesleves

It's morally wrong, can't function outside of a post scarcity society, and can only be achieved through totalitarian means and murder.
But I guess it's okay to genocide the "bad kind of people " if you do it in the name of equality.

Because to them "Socialism" = "Marxism", when factually there were a lot of socialist thinkers, e.g. Oswald Spengler, who had very different ideas. All great national achievements are socialist in nature. The world wars were socialist efforts. To sacrifice oneself on the fatherland's altar on the field of battle is the greatest socialist service.

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Look around. Every single flaw in the society regularly noticed by Jow Forums is the result of socialism-lite (social democracy, if you will) practiced in the current West.

Full socialism (national, international, or whatever) is, of course, even worse on all fronts.

Socialism tries to achieve equality on outcome which is guarantee of self-sabotaging citizens.

It attracts leeches, socialism in a homogeneous society does work. Socialism only works when few people use benefits and when people exhaust every other option before they use benefits.

>when factually there were a lot of socialist thinkers, e.g. Oswald Spengler, who had very different ideas.
>not real socialism, version #56654356

>The world wars were socialist efforts.

Thanks for reminding us that socialism is also responsible for the death of the West in this way as well.

I'm not into giving my freedoms away so we can become a poor shithole.

you fly a kekistani flag and dont realize its the shit bag people involved with socialism we hate the most, why would anyone blindly hate the ideology? its always the dumb shit followers.

Communism is the quintessence of Capitalism.
>(((Capitalism)))
>(((Communism)))

Oi, you have a license for the trade of information?

Capitalism is self determination.
If life is deterministic, then valuing the self is a winning strategy. If life is volitional, then valuing the self is a winning strategy.
If life is the Prisoner's Dilemma, then valuing the self is the winning strategy.
Anything that is not the winning strategy is an objectively worse strategy.

How hard is this?

Socialism is the reddit of ideologies.

Right wing people have low IQ

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>immoral and unethical
One could argue that any governing body has a responsibility to regulate individual greed and prevent suffering cused by it.

After all the strong abusing the weak is immoral too. It is ony natural for the weak to group up.

As destructive as they might have been - individualism stands no chance against collective efforts. Those who fail to submit to greater order out of fear of losing their freedoms will end up being enslaved by those who do.

nobody knows

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Every country that has tried Communism/Socialism has failed. millions starve to death and faggot college students 15-20 years later bitch and moan about that not being real Communism/Socialism. the only "humans" that need to be removed from the gene pool by force are faggot commies.

Because why the fuck should I have to work my ass off to support leeches in society? My tax dollars already go to ungrateful niggers and illegal spics. Toss in socialism, and watch how many people swap to under-the-table payments to avoid paying into that system. Nearly every blue collar job in America can operate under the table, and no one who works those jobs will do them at a 50% tax rate. We'll pocket our cash, avoid banks, and profit more then those paying into the system, while simultaneously draining the system ourselves.

America would not survive a socialist system. To many people would abuse the hell out of it, and the entire thing would probably collapse in a few years. I personally, would cut a deal with my boss to pay me cash, claim I didn't work to get benefits, and double profit off that retarded system.

nobody knows

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nobody knows

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I dont trust the state in a "diverse society"

socialism is so great, people climb over barbed wire to get away from it

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Fuck off with your false dichotomy

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I'm not a socialist because I believe in property rights. Socialism (as in actual socialism, not welfare capitalism) starts with rejection of private property.

That's not socialism, it's just shit-tier regulation model. There are alternatives like
>government hands the ladders to B because fuck A and his shit

>Why do you hate people who steal from you
Why do you think fag?

What makes you "own" anything but your capability of defending your ownership? No one is stealing, you're just not strong enough to defend your right for ownership.

I never understoof this. Why is Jow Forums shilling for free market corporatism? Why does Jow Forums care more about the profits of some corporate Jew instead of the well being of the people?

The way I see it socialisation of certain sectors of economy is a good thing. For instance about 35% of the economy of Norway is socialised, meaning it's publically owned (controlled by the representatives of the people in the form of a government). They have nationalised their oil, hydropower etc. which means these industries are not meant to produce profit for a few select group of elites and make them unimaginably wealthy, the revenues are used for the public good and ensure a high standard of living for the Norwegian people, healthcare, infrastructure, education etc. There is a high level of wealth redistribution which results in low inequality. There isn't a cut throat mentality where every man is for himself, Norwegians see each other as a part of a group instead of buying into this hyper individualism. Perhaps that's the reason for them being a happy country. Oher Nordic nations have similar models.

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because this board got invaded by fucking boomers and normies

Also, pure unadelterated capitalism is absolutely horrific. Think somalia, no regulation, you can buy and sell anything including human beings, you can buy politicians and the government if you have money, you can buy a fucking nuclear weapon, you can fucking wreck the enviroment and land for your profits so you can live a hedonistic, materialistic lifestyle for 80 years you have on this Earth. Unregulated capitalism is just immoral.

>no one is murdering you, you're just not strong enough to defend your right to live

stealing, even when the government does it, is wrong. fuck you

I like freedom and food and being alive

>literally how governments work
Tough world, isn't it? The strong should fear the weak.

I have a lot of problems with it, but the main one is that I don't like how it removes personal responsibility and self determination from people.

Yeah, you say that until there is a big A on your shirt. But your sacrificing for your people so it's all good right?

Fuck Jow Forums, none of you scared faggots are willing to make the sacrifice or NatSoc or any other idea you faggots come up with. It makes all of your idealizations a farce.

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There is no democratic socialism, it's just international socialism packaged to imbeciles. They always pretend to be for the people, but they always end up demonizing white people, pandering to brown people, wreck borders, culture, economy, countryside (and this latter while pretending to be Green and banging on and on about "climate change"), they're just useless greasy plebs who want to play at God but with other people's money. I hate them.

Sacrifice is the highest virtue.

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No it hasnt communism and feudalism were kings and lords control everything has and left wing people also have low IQs I hate you both

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Because there are """people""" in my country (and most) that I don't want to pay taxes to.

Stop fucking looking for a way to justify robbing your neighbor and actually make something of yourself. White socialists and commies are a disgrace to the race

Then how do you stop your neighbor from stealing from you through legal means?

Yeah man it’s amazing how well-known the Somalians are for producing and liking nukes.

You will never make that sacrifice.

That is what state socialism is, you fucking brainlet.

Because socialism is the most flawed and most stupid economic theory ever designed. I get keynesianism is not socialism and I respect the keynesian school of economics.
Here's what's wrong with socialism summed up very very very quickly
1. It spawns a shit ton of bureaucracy which halts the production of goods.
2. It monopolises every sector of the market which completely kills off all innovations.
3. It only works if all people are equal = the same, which they are not. Some people are weak in the gulag, but mastermind CFOs, some people are athletic superhumans, but are illiterate.
4. "The only way to get reach is to abuse the working class." This is wrong. Marx was right in his economical analysises, but not in the way he wanted to fix them. If there is no crony intervention in the government, nor government intervention in the market, then the only way to get rich is to make products that benefit the most amount of people. This is also called the trickle-down effect, and it only works if companies do not starve their employees.
Believe it or not, the scandinavian model is actually not socialist at all. The scandinavian countries are some of the most business-friendly and economically free countries in the world. Their welfare is made through taxing consumption and income in every class. Their welfare system is not sustainable though, and the wealth of those nations are decreasing, not increasing. The most ideal model existing right now is the swiss model, which is built on free market principles.
Decentralized laissez-faire capitalism has worked every single time and produced marvelous results (e.g. gotten a billion people out of poverty in Asia).
Throw Marx in the garbage can and read economists like Friedman, Galbraith, Kahneman, Keynes etc. and decide for yourself what makes the most sense (and also what has produced the best results in the real world).

I get keynesianism (which is still capitalism)*

Oi, you have a license for demanding a license for trade of information?

I just wanna go back to a time without this stupid capitalism and socialism shit, own a small farm, live off the land not being controlled by ((them))

Because I pay taxes and my name is not LaQueefa or something similar

More collectivization = More power in the hands of the few = Easier to corrupt the system

this was the way until feminism infeltrated our schools and Hollywood degeneracy spread thru sweden
and now nobody really gives a shit about anything for some reason

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but scandinavian countries are >le cuck le BBC XD muh ahmed cuck cuck cuck sjw cuck

nevermind ridiculously high HDI. all that matters are memes

Cause i'm not part of the 0.25% that would benefit from it

The scand models are very capitalist, but not very sustainable.

Bluntly put, there are people that deserve to fail and suffer from their poor life choices. And it makes me physically angry that my money goes to support them.