Are there still any libertarians on Jow Forums?

Are there still any libertarians on Jow Forums?

How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?

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You dont.

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You know, if you want a libertarian society, you have to pick a road to get there; Either resort to using force to remove the cancer or to starve the cancer out. Either we use facism as a means to an end, or we use ancapistan ideals to starve out the niggers.

You can't resist the truth. The libertarian ideal is interwoven with world finance and economic globalism, by prostrating yourself before the free market you have no right to complain when big business renders you obsolete in favor of cheap foreign labour, goods and services. A libertarian can never be a true nationalist.

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I'm classical liberal based on tests if that counts as this. But I ain't doing a striptease like the fat guy did.

The third option is the only option left now.

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Mosley? Is that you?

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In a libertarian society, you can voluntarily hold yourself to the high moral and personal standards that are coerced by the state under fascism. The difference is it would reflect personal virtue rather than obedience.
If you think you should achieve your full physical and mental potential, as well as outbreed everyone else by having ten Aryan children, then nothing's stopping you. You just have to be successful enough to financially support that enterprise, which shouldn't be a problem if you truly are the master race.

It seems that fascism results if ancap principles are not upheld autistically.

If welfare and corruption was completely destroyed there might not be a need for fascism.

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Not results, but rather are needed.

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Someone post the snek standing up in response to the boot coming in from the left on the political compass.

>you have no right to complain

the problem with you incels is that you bought what you got taught in preschool and you unironically think things get solved "complaining"

By not being a retard and falling for the
>every other government might be corrupt but OUR government wouldn't!
meme.

>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?
Don't have White kids.

In France, Marine Le Pen is typically neo fascist (socialist and conservative). She's a dumbass. All socialists are niggers

LSD, shrooms and Jordan Peterson brought me back to libertarianism from the alt right

This. Every political figure in France is just a different brand of Socialism, I'm fed up with it.

Extremely accurate illustration. Those who refuse to collectivize are doomed to fail individually.
If everyone agreed to not collectivize, it'd be perfect. But that's just another utopia vision.

Strength in unity volks, strength in unity.

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honestly canada bro

personally I just want to be left alone. I just want to be free to live my own life, without predators in whatever form, harassing me or trying to take my money.

Good people don't try to gain power, so we are always at a disadvantage to bad people. They gain power because they want to control. while we just want to be left alone and don't care what others do.

The truth is that a libertarian world can only exist with majority white men. We are the only ones that seem to desire a mule and forty acres, and to be left alone to prosper.

There is no issues between the libertarian right and the other factions on the right. We can all co-exist in the end. Trust in god user, peace be with you.

I make sure that I'm listening to Jordan Peterson while I'm prepping the bull

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i dont like people telling me what to do so i can never become a fascist

If you haven't transitioned to some form of post-libertarian thought it means you simply haven't been keeping up on your reading of right-wing thought over the last 10 years.
Start with U.R.

>LSD, shrooms and Jordan Peterson brought me back to libertarianism
You won't be missed

smarter libertarians long knew that an-capistan is impossible - the more immoral and the more diverse society becomes, the more coercion is needed for it not to collapse. Pic is Hayek in 1958

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>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?
Through the magic of not being a white nigger, on Jow Forums most of the american retards swinging to fascism and authoritarianism do so because of their fear for non-whites in their country, which is a symptom of a larger issue (welfare state being openly supported/utilized by whites, whites demanding illegal labor, whites demanding drugs) rooted in the not so recent decline of american financial success.

White niggers seem to scapegoat criminal Mexicans as if they were the origin of a problem, rather than a symptom, because their worship for le white race comes in direct conflict with any measure of self reflection about the flaws of their group

This is a good post.

Enjoy a life of being a living female repellent

only kikes post threads about libertarianism and nazis being cousins

Posting before internet dies

You are 24?

>You are 24?
I was when the scan was taken.

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no

>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?

Pretty simple. By recognising that fascism is a regression for the human race, and free market libertarianism is a natural progression. Human beings were not meant to be subjugated. I would somewhat agree to the fact that we might have needed a strong state 500+ years ago, but with the proliferation of liberalism (classical liberalism and not leftist "liberalism"), and free market capitalism, human beings have been increasing their intelligence, independence, and productivity, and thus the need to rely upon a big state is needless, not to mention self-destructive.

Btw, there's no reason why strong borders and a small state have to be mutually exclusive. The very existence of strong borders will help to maintain and preserve a homogeneous free market society.

Fascism and NatSoc is just a band-aid solution, whereas right wing libertarianism is admittedly a slower, yet more permanent solution. Not to mention coke is easier to get.

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this. classic liberal capitalism ftw

A mule and forty acres don't create prosperity. Unless you mean YOU want to have a mule and forty acres while the rest of us grinds away to maintain a developed, secure, and prosperous civilization around you.

Because there's millions of nonwhites who live off the land and are perfectly content, but it's in shitholes because that's all anyone does. And their happiness only lasts until a more advanced society decides it wants their territory or resources.

>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?
By embracing the lure of neo-feudalism.

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>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?
I can't abide being told how to think. Not really an option for me, more like a compulsion.

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You don't need to regress from libertarian principles, you just need to accept the fact that it can only work in a white ethnostate

With the realization that the ideology that gains power undoubtedly not be the one you agree with.

Easy, I don't think any man has sovereignty over another man. Then I go from there.

You don't need to regress from fascist principles, you just need to accept the fact that it can only work in a totally Laissez-faire world

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I'm not a libertarian, specifically, but I'm in the same general camp. Totalitarian societies breed large children dependent on their parent, the government. Only a society in which people are free can result in virtuous citizens, even if it's a difficult journey.

Capitalism binds power to money. You're still being subjugated, you just prefer this method because you see that it gives you a slim opportunity to become the subjugator without having to prove any martial strength.

Fun fact: Anarcho-capitalism is voluntary fascism.

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Capitalism is not an ideology. Doubt conflate it to one.

Fuckinv Swype

I didn't.

implying that "strong borders" will be enough

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Ancaps don't realize that a man who come to substantial power through the free market is just as susceptible to corruption as any state official would. Men will do what is most profitable and selling out your country for cheap hordes of illiterate niggers is pretty profitable.

Basically, both are susceptible to corruption so I'll lean towards the one that at least has an explicit goal of protecting my nation

also ye should do some shit with DOOM

Precisely. I think all of us started in libertarian land. But once you realize only white people give a fuck about individualism, which is fully backed up by the statistics of voting and various polls done, that realization leads you to the understanding that you can't NOT play the identity politic game because everyone else WILL work as a group and they will use the power that democracy grants people via numbers against you and your people's interests.

Still libertarian, still on pol. Ten years ago this was a liberal board always complaining about Bush and Cheney. You can't let yourself be swayed by short term trends.

Same though. I remember when Jow Forums had more libertarians than "Nazis."

Yeah, people always say this and it's true. So what? The implication here is that in a Fascist, Socialist, Communist society, this wouldn't exist, except in fact it would - to an even tyrannical degree. At least in a free society, you have the opportunity of gaining power as a result of wealth, with few people standing in your way - in F, S and C, you wouldn't. It would either be hereditary, or through nepotism. Or through just sucking up to whichever dictator is in power at the time. The Communist party leaders in every S or C socity live like kings.

>Jow Forums existed 10 years ago
>complaining about Bush and Cheney (guys getting us into foolish wars) makes you liberal
>people on here now weren't complaining at the prospect of Trump getting us into a war with Syria they must all be liberals too

Hello brainlet newfriend.

True. But I don't see Jow Forums becoming liberal again, in the current state of the World.

this. it's always been a war between Jew and gentile.

Is Swype actually helpful? I pretty much phone post all the time, and regular typing is much better for me.

>Ten years ago this was a liberal board always complaining about Bush and Cheney
Shut the fuck up you lying faggot. Jow Forums did not exist 10 years ago.

No you don't you lying faggot. moot shut down /new/ because "it's becoming Stormfront 2.0". He said he would shut down Jow Forums if it started happening again.. Of course he cucked on it because when he shut down /new/ all the pissed off /new/fags flooding the other boards literally ddosed Jow Forums shutting it down for over 24 hours and when it came back up the other boards were still unusable from being flooded by them.

Fascism is a jewish invention too.

Because they're all colored hair faggots and small brain autists.

>Neo-fascism
Why are libertarians so dumb

No need to sperg, my friend. I know you probably jumped onto the (((Nazi))) bandwagon once Trump came into presidency.

Yeah, Kermit the frog is your secret to getting laid, right?

It can be when it's not a shit. Main problem is I usually forget to double check it to make sure nothing's wrong with the post.

Shut it down

Or you're just irrelevant.

I was a National Socialist long before Trump announced his candidacy you stupid lying faggot.

Money isn't power in a fascist society, so how would that exist in one? It can't. You have to prove your strength in order to lead.

>At least in a free society, you have the opportunity of gaining power as a result of wealth, with few people standing in your way
Why do you say that like it's a good thing? Every person that you want power over should be standing in your way. What does a "free society" look like in your mind? You're talking as if your side is the only one that would be using their wealth to gain power.

Stated with fascist leanings, realized how similar various rational I had were to SJW shit, became more individualist.

... yeah.

Whatever you say, user, I'm sure you have a girlfriend and a 9in dick too.

>Are there still any libertarians on Jow Forums?
Yes.
>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?
Why would I resist them?
I believe in personal freedom in most cases so they're free to advocate for whatever they want.
I have no desire to let some moron rule over me with an iron fist so their ideology will never really appeal to me.
However if they seize power and get rid of all the niggers and spics along with jew bought politicians 99% of my problems will disappear.
Meanwhile if the Bernie tards gain control I'll lose all my shit while the government declares open season on whitey so the choice is easy to me.
As long as the fashfags are smart enough to leave me and my guns alone we won't have a problem.

First post, best post. Sadly...

>muh horseshoe theory

Kill yourself brainlet.

I was married, but I'm a widower. And my dick is only 7" but thanks.

Its better to learn to defend yourself than to join a gang out of fear. Makes you know better than nigger gangs and jew gangs. That being said, it is not advantageous to join a gang as a prisoner of war or a slave. sometimes you have to gang up to survive. However, those who put their faith in any sort of political ideology or group are parasitic and lose wars and money.
Whether its mafia/big government/street gangs/military all of these gangs do nothing but fight. Some fight to protect people that do cool shit, some are just barbarian raiders.Libertarians either pay taxes for government protection or buy guns and protect themselves or pay out to a gang to protect themselves or get killed. To be a libertarian is to be ideologically untied to whatever gang you pay off. If a libertarian is enslaved by a gang, he fights until he dies to be free. There is nothing more american than to be a Libertarian. Libertarianism has nothing to do with capitalism, because capitalism is semantic bullshit.The libertarian doesn't care if his enemy is a state or a corporation. The libertarian is driven by the desire to do extraordinary things and spread his seed. The libertarian depends on his own honor and moral code for dealing with other people, as this is the best way to survive and thrive. To be a libertarian is to believe that every man is judged by his own deeds and despises group think. Group think allows the individual to feel like their own moral decisions don't matter, as much as the state's decisions.

tfw both progressive and libeetarian

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> two shitty posts
It’s not worth explaining to you
You obviously don’t care

Contradiction. You can't be both. Libertarianism at it's core is a meritocracy, but progressivism pushes for "marginalized" people to be given priority in employment and education. You're just a progressive.

Not possible.

Trade is necessary. Money is credit for resources and you can do the same thing with the resources themselves. Money isn't the he problem.

Rare

The Ron Paul constitutional libertarian types still frequent, now less frequently unless there's a happening thread.

How do I resist the lure of socialism?
[spoiler] Let me think about that one for second. [spoiler] oh wait[/spoiler]

Correct, the problem is capitalism tying power to money.

Might as well call National Socilaism NeoSocialism

Muh freedom

>How do you resist the lure of neo-fascism?

By it being antithetical to liberty values? Fascism and communism both want to inject extreme totalitarianism. They're not "the same", but from a principle of liberty they both pull away from what society should be.

It's especially stupid since with liberty you can choose to live in an all white commune. I have no problem with that. Isolate yourselves and buy up a whole state worth of land. Nobody has the right to tell you that you need to import darkies.

If you're a commie, the same goes really. After that first investment into the land and equipment, if you can convince people to live without property or money on that land you have a right to do so. Your enemies at that point will be taxation and the state forcing laws upon you.

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there was a time where we were all about the Ron Paul Revolution then some larpers came on here and started preaching NATI SOC and boom heil hitler.

>Money isn't power in a Fascist society.

It's not entirely the source of power but you're right, that's not where it begins. Subjugating people under the threat of murder or prison, or propaganda is how you get power. When you do get that power, what's stopping the Fascist leader or party in expropriating private resources for their own gain? They can accumulate wealth at the expense of every citizen in the state, with no repercussions as long as their propaganda or muscle does the job.

>Every person I want power over

I should've said something different, but I was following your power logic. To clarify, I don't want power over anybody, and I don't want anybody to have power over me, whether it be the state or a citizen. I want everybody to have the dignity of freedom, liberty and independence, and make voluntary transactions.

>Using wealth to gain power

I don't mind people making voluntary choices to gain power, as long as its not coercive power that can be used to suppress liberty.

If you want to mention corporations or billionaires using their wealth to entice politicians to do their bidding, I'd say that they do so to impact corporatist policy for the better. Why would this be any different in a S or F society? If anything, the Fascist leader or party would secure economic benefits to their friends in corporations, and create even bigger monopolies. Who's to stop this, if the very ruling party controls the economy absolutely?

At least in a free market, there are always chances for businesses to break up a monopoly because of competition, but in a state controlled economy, there is no competition.

Fascism doesn't necessarily impugn on personal liberties though. That is a fallacious claim made by brainlets. There's nothing axiomatic within fascist thinking which requires lessening of personal liberties. Different fascist states have had varying degrees of personal liberty. I only support fascism as a means of gathering together my fellow whites in order to have a fighting chance in democracy where all other racial groups vote in blocks against white interests.

You're not think8ng two dimentionally. Politics, unlike gender, is non-binary.

Though I would say this map is a bit off, I put this image as an example.

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It doesn't matter when you have beliefs which directly contradict each other. You can't be both. Either you believe in meritocracy and are libertarian, or you believe in advancing marginalized people's interests. So which do you believe is correct?

The movement will never die, it's just in the shadows now, did anyone else rage laugh that those Bernie cunts stole all of Ron Paul's memes and message?

Do you think you will be allowed to live in an all white commune when you lose the ethnic majority in your country?

>Subjugating people under the threat of murder or prison, or propaganda is how you get power.
No, that's how you use power to run the society.
>as long as their propaganda does the job
In other words, as long as the people continue to believe that you're running it agreeably.

>I don't want power over anybody, and I don't want anybody to have power over me, whether it be the state or a citizen. I want everybody to have the dignity of freedom, liberty and independence, and make voluntary transactions.
That's not how the world works. What you want is the opposite of what a society fundamentally is.

>If you want to mention corporations or billionaires using their wealth to entice politicians to do their bidding, I'd say that they do so to impact corporatist policy for the better.
For their better. Not yours, or the free market's. Their interests trump all, that's individualism.

>Who's to stop this, if the very ruling party controls the economy absolutely?
The people that comprise the economy

>At least in a free market, there are always chances for businesses to break up a monopoly because of competition
In an actual free market the more likely chance is for businesses to cooperate and form monopolies since that offers a far better risk-reward incentive than competition.

>in a state controlled economy, there is no competition.
Do we live under a one-world government all of a sudden? Every other state is the competition.

Nah, the LARPers were always here. I was totally on board with the revoLution, but I wasn't very political then. My main political philosophy was "leave me the fuck alone." But then I eventually realized I wouldn't be left alone and thus needed to use collective bargaining power with my fellow whites to prevent our country from becoming a 3rd world shithole, though it appears it may be too late. All voting records and polling show that non-whites do not care about personal liberty or any other aspect of individualism. They vote as blocks and they vote to advance their interests at the expense of white interests.