/pol knows the truth about the many retrograde family trends today:
>rise of "Sugar Daddy" sites >divorce rates and the destructive courts process >40% of children born today out of wedlock >normalization of myriad unhealthy fetishes and alternative relationship styles >not to mention displacement of whites
Knowing all this--could the argument be made that Polygamy could play a positive social role today? After all, wouldn't these "lost women" be better off in some type of productive family unit, rather than left to drift?
*If you could afford it*, wouldn't YOU want 2-3 concubines in your harem? Wouldn't it make the idea of marriage more attractive to today's successful, strong-willed man--who, once he actually has his shit together, has almost no incentive to stop banging broads and "man-up"?
I'll be honest, we need polygamy if for no other reason than our male breeding stock has been replaced with soyboys and MGTOW incels. Just look around this site, do you see any of these people breeding well-adjusted children? No, they need to be filtered out of the gene pool.
Benjamin Gonzalez
I don't think you've put much thought into this and the unintended consequences that legalized polygamy will have.
>keep crying about the fact that your whiny sour grapes masquerading as a blackpill means the only trace of you remaining after your cowardly life of narcissistic self-indulgence has ended will be as one more footnote to point and laugh at in the history of this freakshow we used to call the modern era
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Jackson Jackson
>I know jack shit about MGTOW other than what I read on Jow Forums
I like your 2,000-word infographic about your preferred identity. Can you link me to your Tumblr?
Elijah Harris
No offense guys, not hating on MGTOW myself but it's kinda the opposite of what I'm talking about.
You'd have to be balls-to-the-walls insane and bursting with semen to want to attempt forging a lifestyle the social wilderness as a polygamist today (though it's easier now than ever imo). It's literally the opposite response than MGTOW. But I'm willing to give it a try if I make as much money as I plan to.
Blake Walker
I absolutely will get a mini harem later, when I can afford it. I want a lot of kids. Already bought a big enough old villa, renovating it right now.
Benjamin Reyes
There are major, major legal and social barriers to this lifestyle, but I'm doing some research into it.
I truly, honestly believe I'll be more successful with 2 wives than 1. I dated 2 girls alternately, then simultaneously for a while (wasn't intentional at first). I was soo much happier living that way. The only downside was keeping it a secret from them, and I honestly wouldn't want to keep it that way. I do believe with the right mindset, emotional framework of radical honesty and love--and maybe a little mdma--we could all be one big happy family.
Any lurkers out there on my level? I know you're out there.
Camden Jenkins
Don't let the MGTOW fags get you down, I'd totally do it if it were legal. Seems a waste for me to just have one wife.
Michael Green
This is literally my plan. Though of course it's important to describe it in a politically correct way.
Polygamists get raided by the feds.
Ethical non-monogamist woman-led communities get extra gibs.
I have dated multiple girls at the same time several times, while being absolutely open about it. I won't marry any of my "wives", because of legal reasons of course, but I will otherwise live it like a normal marriage, I will provide for them and never drop them as long as they remain faithful. I am absolutely willing to make a private contract with them about that.
Levi Thompson
>Already bought a big enough old villa Are you serious?
Ayden Cooper
Goddamn genius. Any good resources to share?
Also seems like your odds of having legal problems are low if you're not doing creepy shit like child marriages or locking the wives up in the house and having the police called on you like the Utards.
Aiden Adams
You implement polygamy and most guys won't be able to get a wife. What do you expect them to do? Go gay? Kidnap women from other countries?
Cameron Nguyen
Yes. There are numerous spa towns around vienna, there are loads of old villas there, back from the monarchy days. Bought it from some Russian who had it as an investement.
Grayson Fisher
That's easy enough if you're just dating them, but things get exponentially more complicated when kids are involved. And it's really important for me to have sane healthy kids and a happy family. But yea that makes sense, I'm wondering it's easier to pull this off if you're not legally married--period.
Luke Brooks
>implying hardly anybody is up to the challenge of being a polygamist today
Hardly any man is, on multiple fronts. Economic, emotional, sexual...etc. I agree with that point, but contrary to the complaints of some here, there is actually a surplus of marriageable women.
Jordan Baker
I live a mobile lifestyle on wheels, and one day soon will be building a homestead in the Rockies somewhere. Lots of room to ski, shoot, and ATV.. Su casa es mi casa
Carson Rogers
It would only work if you outlaw No Fault Divorce. Otherwise 3 more wives means quadrupling your chances to be divorce raped.
>surplus of marriageable women Tell me about it. I know so many decent women in their early twenties who are not slutting it up but can't find a worthwile boyfriend who actually wants to take the marriage risk. Espescially in my field, I am a classical musician. Sorry, no. Man up and build some nice casa in south america with some good chicas.
Hudson Thomas
Dealing with three wives gave that guy a heart attack that killed him!
Dominic Ortiz
No, polygamy is known to be socially bad. With that said, we are moving towards a new polygamy today with the 80/20 rule in dating, sugar daddies, polyamory etc.
Isaac Sanders
Is that how the series ended? I only watched part of the first season.
Lincoln Barnes
>"men" need laws to keep their women from running off
Protip, if the only reason your wife sticks around is because the law makes it hard for her to do so, you have a shitty marriage. Changing the law doesn't change that simple fact.
Ian Murphy
I've honestly considered polygamy as well. I just need to work on building up my business so I can financially afford so many wives (not by law) and children. I think a business mixed with a farm would be a good combination. The farm gives the wives something to keep them busy while also teaching my children responsibility and a good work ethic. It would also cut down on costs substantially if my children fed themselves through their own partial labor and that of mine and the wives.
Josiah Young
Also it should be noted here that women are the ones pushing for the new polygamy. Just more proof that women's sexuality needs to be restrained by the State, or you end up with something like Islamic societies where young men are sent off to fight and die for brides.
Henry Jackson
Women can't accept this asymetric role with the actual mentality, also because it need to be translated as share of servitude.
Jordan Johnson
Women are fine with it if you're attractive enough.
Dominic Reyes
Not necessarily true. A lifetime is a long time and people change and go through phases. And in the past the world was a much less safe place for a single woman/mother. Law is useful as a stronger version of social shaming.
Jaxson Lopez
I'm acutely aware of this, but at the same time, I look around at a lot of men and many of them just don't much care about it and sit and play their video games, fap to porn, and spend way too much time on the internet. (I was one of these people 2 years ago.)
I mess with a married guy, because he gives me stuff and takes me places and is really nice and sweet to me. I try not to ignore all the sweet talk though. I don't want no drama. Guys closer to my age have nothing, aren't nice, don't know how to treat/have a girlfriend. This is life apparently, I can't do anything about it but go with the best thing.
Luke White
I try TO ignore**
Jason Collins
His wife know?
Also are you implying taht you don't have a problem with polygamy?
Christian Sanchez
Nice, agreed on that 100%, would love to farm (while I run my internet business via satellite lel).
I'm super concerned though about what kind of life my kids would have. Would they all live in separate households, or is it possible for everyone to live together? Any resources you've found would be appreciated.
They'll end up getting chemically castrated by male birth control in all likelihood. Don't worry though, we will see actual polygamy become "a thing" soon enough. It will of course be good and feminist and morally righteous.
They do this BECAUSE they cannot get a girlfriend, because of unrestrained female sexuality and out-of-control hypergamy. Once the taboo erodes a bit more we will see top men openly having a harem of several women.
Gabriel Perez
>middle of the road fallacy
Jackson Green
>nice >in south america Ha. I will probably be killed before that happens.
That’s how Western Patriarchy kept it together for thousands of years.
Landon Nelson
Fucking degenerate polygamist shills in here. Polygamy makes for a less stable society than one that practices strict monogamy. Just wait until all the left over men decide to fuck your shit up, and with easy access to guns it's bound to happen.
If you want to fix society then bring back at-fault divorce. The spouse seeking the divorce has to prove the other was sleeping around, or physically abusive, otherwise they don't get the kids and don't get financial support. Then stop subsidizing single parents (mostly single mothers) by the State. You are taking money away from productive single men through taxes, and handing to women who got knocked up by the same irresponsible baby-daddy. Women and their offspring need to fear the consequences of having kids out of wedlock so that they choose men who can provide over men who give them vagina tingles. Just think about it, what good is choosing men based on prehistoric criteria like size and aggression in a technologically complex society? They are picking partners based on what works in the stone age, and not what works in the information age. We should not be subsidizing this.
Asher Garcia
It has nothing to do with how good your marriage is or isn't. What matters is how attractive you are. If you aren't that attractive, your wife will run off with a more attractive man because there's no incentive for her not to do so. The State can provide for her, as can sugaring, findom, camwhoring etc. You have to understand, women don't actually love you in the way you might love them. They will leave you in a heartbeat when someone better comes along. Even guys who cheat on their wives still love them in most cases, but most women never love their husband unless he is a top-tier man, and even then, if he were to lose status she would stop loving him. Women are at least as shallow as men if not more so.
Logan Parker
What will happen is that the surplus men will get chemically castrated. Look into the effects of the new male birth control pill.
Anthony Sanchez
Saved. Thank you.
Caleb Smith
whew lad
Would love to fix the laws. In the mean time I'll live my life. And cunt you think my compound won't have barbed wire fence, an armory, and 10 rifle-ready sons?
Nicholas Murphy
No. And the only way she'll find out is if he does/says something stupid.
I'm not okay with it. If I actually loved a man I cannot willingly share him. And I mean, I know people have cheated since forever, but in my situation, I'm not seeing this man because I have a strong emotional attachment to him and am the bitter "other woman" who "wasn't chose" like most affairs, but simply because I don't really have any other prospects and his attention, gifts and "services" are pretty fulfilling.
By the way, we don't have sex.
Joseph Brown
I'm not certain about resources but I want my children to all be accustomed to one another, and would honestly rather arrange monogamous or bigamous marriages for them as opposed to my idea of 4-6 "Wives" in address to concerns about polygamous societies. I just want to populate the earth with white children and would be very happy to pick up the slack. I personally would want to have the sex lives be separate (no 3/4/5somes) in order to avoid jealously and have some form of ritual for the other mothers in order to "welcome" the neworn into the family and view them as if from their own womb. My suggestion is to maintain open communication and be forthright and honest. Let the women talk sideways. You should be the head of the household and mitigator of disputes. I also suggest creating "laws" in order to govern disputes within the family and to keep to them no matter what. One wife attacks another? All wives beat her. One person is infidelous? Banish her. (Just suggestions)
Why the fuck would guys who can't get girlfriends/wives be taking a male birth control pill you fucking retard? If anything it would be the players who plan on fucking a new chick every night who would opt for the pill, fucking up their own libido in the process.
Ayden Murphy
No the solution is to change and fix women not men.
Angel Perry
> you think my compound won't have barbed wire fence, an armory, and 10 rifle-ready sons?
I mean there's TRP and there's Islam. Typically in Islam each woman gets a house, and in TRP each woman is paid for by betas (ex husband, bluepilled friend zoned fools, taxpayers, etc.). Bqut if the women were friends it might be different. The difficulty is to be man enough to get the women while also aware enough to keep the women from sabotaging each other's kids.
Eli James
>not going from one extreme to the other
John Moore
>A lifetime is a long time and people change and go through phases.
Your role as a man is providing the anchor that prevents these phases from happening. We've all seen how women act when left to their own devices. They need, and they want, stable leadership in their life.
>Law is useful as a stronger version of social shaming.
This is a crutch. You need to learn how to keep your women around when there's nothing to support you but your wits and your abilities. That time is coming whether you're ready for it or not.
>women's attraction to you is defined solely by your physical appearance
When are you people going to learn that women do not think how you think?
Luke Garcia
Heil Hitler
Gabriel Parker
>I'm not okay with it. If I actually loved a man I cannot willingly share him. And I mean, I know people have cheated since forever, but in my situation, I'm not seeing this man because I have a strong emotional attachment to him and am the bitter "other woman" who "wasn't chose" like most affairs, but simply because I don't really have any other prospects and his attention, gifts and "services" are pretty fulfilling.
> The State can provide for her, as can sugaring, findom, camwhoring etc. Most women are whores, as in, trade sex (or even just emotional contact as we are that pathetic nowadays) for money.
Colton Robinson
You''l be first up against the wall you polygamist piece of shit, and your wives and daughters will be distributed to the masses.
Asher Watson
Makes sense. Honestly I don't doubt my own ability to figure out a system that works. I only doubt I can fend off the jealous, angry outside world forever.
Levi Hall
No, one waifu for laifu.
Robert Diaz
Okay. Thanks for sharing femanon.
Ian Hernandez
If you've read the book "The Moons A Harsh Mistress" from Robert Heinlein you may remember the "Line Marriage". I think this is an interesting idea.
Zachary Cook
>When are you people going to learn that women do not think how you think? They actually do though. All evidence from dating sites indicates that roughly 80% of women are pursuing 20% of men. Also, women's assessment of "personality" correlates with looks. Women will cheat on their rich provider if a man who is 6'3" and jacked with a nice jawline comes along. Women are just as shallow as men are.
>Your role as a man is providing the anchor that prevents these phases from happening. We've all seen how women act when left to their own devices. They need, and they want, stable leadership in their life. >This is a crutch. You need to learn how to keep your women around when there's nothing to support you but your wits and your abilities. That time is coming whether you're ready for it or not. Women only care about whether or not you are the most attractive, highest status man in her social circle. She will not accept your "leadership" otherwise, this shit about "being her anchor" is nonsense. Women will behave themselves remarkable well if you are handsome.
Are you saying your a bit yandere? That's pretty cute desu.
Nathan Parker
Gtfo Achmed
Mason Watson
All those values would be kept, and women would be more agreeable if a job could support a family. Now both parents need to have a steady 8h job to be able to provide for 1.2 children. The rest is just divide and conquer tactics by the left.
Grayson White
Why do you incel types lie to yourselves like this? The ugly dude / hot wife combo is pervasive enough to be a stereotype and yet you persist in telling yourself that it's all about looks. Is it because as long as you believe this you can tell yourself that self-improvement is useless? Just an excuse for sloth?
Nolan Wright
Make yourself as desirable as possible then.
Grayson Stewart
>The ugly dude / hot wife combo is pervasive enough to be a stereotype and yet you persist in telling yourself that it's all about looks. Because the husband is rich and she's cheating or is a sugar baby? You'd be surprised how many of these women are basically paid a salary to be with the rich ugly man.
>Is it because as long as you believe this you can tell yourself that self-improvement is useless? Just an excuse for sloth? Not really, because of the 80-20 mechanism at work here, returns to self-improvement are very large especially if you are close to being in the top 20%, i.e. if you have a nice face buried under fat, or have shit clothes, shit teeth etc. It's still all about looks.
Hudson Murphy
>Because the husband is rich and she's cheating or is a sugar baby?
You will tell yourself anything, won't you?
Dominic Perry
>fleshlight >waifu pillow >big tittied dildo toy Kek
Gavin Garcia
every ugly guy/hot girl relationship I've seen personally has involved a low self-esteem girl who later gained more self-esteem and dumped him for a hotter guy
Jack Thompson
I suppose. As a Sagittarius woman it's not easy to get my heart, but those that can make me batshit. Only one guy has ever done that to me though, and I'm by no means a young'in.
Gabriel Miller
My money's on this causing greater occurrence of incest-derived mutations over the generations. There's a reason the Arabs are seen to have these problems, and harems are a massive part of their culture, and influence to spread to foreign land to take their women. Monogamy gave us the society that's currently collapsing. It produced amazing results. Don't forget, men aren't going to work for what's not theirs.
I think you're wrong buddy. Definitely decreases the genetic diversity if half the kids DNA only comes from one parent. Especially with massive harems.
Ryan Thomas
people in islamic societies bred with their cousins frequently though, even if 80% of women are having kids by the same 20% of men, I don't see how inbreeding is going to go up that much. a bigger problem is adverse selection for looks and aggression over civilization-building qualities or intelligence.
