Is it really as bad as they say in San Francisco? Or is it just another meme?

probably worse

needles and human shit in a lot of the neighborhoods. not all of them of course but theres a huge homeless problem because the rich liberals and yuppies dont want to kick them out

>human feces on the streets
Needs to be addressed. Start arresting people who refuse to use a fucking bathroom.

>homeless on the streets, tent cities
A problem with rent being too damn high. The homeless have a right to walk about as they please, just as anybody else. They also have a right to sleep on public property if they so please, as it IS public, and it cannot be a crime to not have a home.

Even if they cleaned all the shit up it probably wouldn’t do much. Tourists were attracted to SF for its historically liberal acceptance of weed and gays. Now that legal pot and gay marriage are everywhere it’s not very exotic.

You can't ethically kick the homeless out. They have a constitutional right to freedom of movement.

No. On cities built on hills we have winding streets. The American autism with grid-block city design is really quite something.

Last time I was in San Fran there were so many homeless people I couldn’t believe it. An army of bums

rights are for taxpayers

>it cannot be a crime to not have a home.
t.i uave no clue what vagrancy and loitering laws say

They have laws, but typical libs font enforce them.

Rights are for citizens, regardless of whether they pay taxes.

yes, it is that bad and getting worse fast.

they are building new Public Housing for Black criminals as fast as they can.

I heard 40% of all residences in SF are some form of Public, "Affordable", Section 8, etc.

no meme bro
i went to sf 25 years ago and ended up living across the bridge in mill valley
shit was nast even then
it's not like the 49ers, sailors, or hippies were ever known for their cleanliness either
sf has always been dirty
but with more bums and migrantes than ever, i am sure it's even worse today

I really only ever go to the haight its the same as its always been

U homeless bro?

> (OP)
>Last time I was in San Fran there were so many homeless people I couldn’t believe it. An army of bums

yes, the cops are scared of the bums and the bums know it, and set up anywhere they fucking want.

only thing that polices bums are other bums

countless streets are 24/7 lined with broken down massive junky R/Vs dumping human feces

Being homeless should be a crime. No one wants to see them and they provide nothing for the community.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Chicago_v._Morales

Kill yourself scum. You have no idea what it's like to have to walk past that filth. Move to SF and go work downtown, take public transit like a good goy, we'll see how long you go on about muh homeless rights

Crimes require a victim, mens rea, and a guilty act.

Homelessness is not something one does willingly, and no one can claim damages from the mere act of homeless itself except for the homeless person.

>You can't ethically kick the homeless out. They have a constitutional right to freedom of movement.
you arrest them for shit like sleeping on sidewalk, then do 5150 hold at an out of town location.

create Nazi style plantation/work camps away from major population

Russian hill and the touristy area near the piers is all very nice. Business district and Chinatown are pretty cool too. . The area around the golden gate-SF side is kind of empty and rundown a bit but not so bad. The bad areas are absolutely disgusting and full of material and human filth that should be incinerated

And send them to jail? That shit costs money.

>Homelessness is not something one does willingly
what is crippling drug addiction

I remember being surprised at the amount of homeless people in SF when I went there a few years back. But, other than that its a nice city.

I grew up in a city with plenty of homelessness, and I regularly take the bus wherever I go. I'm well aware that a number of them are not the most decent of individuals, but a number more are merely down on their luck. Times are difficult and the cost of living is increasing while wages are stagnant. Fully half of all people are dumber than the average person, and if you consider how stupid the average Joe is, you'd realize it's fundamentally statistically impossible for everyone to have a living wage. Therefore, there will ALWAYS be homelessness. Knowing this, we must remember that the constitution applies to each and every American citizen, regardless of their circumstances, and accordingly, respect their right to travel and stay on public property unmolested.

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or you walk between tourists
or you walk between homeless people

the rest is concrete

That’s why you don’t send them to jail, you send them to work camp.

love the two Asians holding their noses as they walk by that guy

Its worse than they say

>Crimes require a victim
>other Jew law bullshit
I run my car at 90mph on a desolate freeway at 3AM. Cop pulls out from behind overpass and tickets me. Who was the victim here? inb4 you say "The State"

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>And send them to jail? That shit costs money.

say you arrest and jail them 6X before finally declaring them crazy and putting in govt mental hospital/plantation.

Still cheaper than losing property values and quality of life.

That is why CA used to be a nice place before they emptied the loony bins onto the streets.

Yup, been here since a month before the 2016 election working behind enemy lines. It's fucking absurd. Every single day, in the FUCKING FINANCIAL DISTRICT, I see dozens of screaming, frothing methheads making a scene. I see these losers shit on the street, sleep on the sidewalk at 2pm, aggressively panhandle, snort meth, shoot up, you name it. Only thing I've ever seen the cops do is give a guy (who was drunk and passed out in a puddle of his own piss on a Monday afternoon) a blanket.
There are shelters and all sorts of services for these shitheads, but they refuse to use them because they can't openly do hard drugs without being reminded that they also offer rehab.
This city is a complete and utter third world shithole populated by the crustiest drug addicts you've seen. The citizenry doesn't care because like 65% of them are dirty mainland Chinese, and the rest are illegal spics, dumb niggers, and faggots.

>you arrest them for shit like sleeping on sidewalk
If I have a right to walk on the sidewalk, I have the right to stand on it. If I have the right to stand, I have the right to sleep. People have a right to peaceably be on public property.

>create Nazi style plantation/work camps away from major population
The second you do that is the second I start exercising my second amendment rights.

I live in san jose. The whole bay is a fucking shit show

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Was there in January. All the roads are dirty, graffiti like crazy, nice homes in surrounding towns but it's all trashy. Like the whole state has gone on strike against itself. It's a shame too since it has some of the most scenic landscape there is on Earth, yet they trash it.

>Start arresting people who refuse to use a fucking bathroom.
But you just did the opposite

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Obviously the freeway was not so desolate if there was a cop there. You drive that fast and you endanger the lives of others. Imagine for a moment someone was coming onto a freeway overpass at the speed limit, and you crashed into them, unable to swerve out of the way in time.

They were arrested because they refused to leave when asked. There are plenty of stores that have public bathrooms that do not ask for people to make a purchase.

>some of the most scenic landscape there is on Earth, yet they trash it
This.
t. Wisconsin to Bay Area transplant

Not as bad as Seattle, but still a shit infested homeless camp.

It's too bad, the city is generally pretty nice as a tourist spot. It's as expensive as NYC if not worse. IDK how anyone lives there, unless you are some kind of CEO or something all your money goes down the toilet on rent and taxes.

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>imagine some remote scenario
Jews, always with the comedy. Just.

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It's America, everywhere is as bad as it seems

yep, it is like this and you can't overestimate the degrading factor of the "dirty mainland Chinese"

those people will walk past a gravely injured child laying in the street as if the kid is a fast-food wrapper litter.

And the homeless, the In n out I went to in Rodeo had some thing that any homeless gets a free shake, so a shit ton showed up and broke the machine before I could get one. And I live in Houston so it is hard to get In n out.

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I was in SF for a week a few years ago. I will never forget getting up in the morning and going out and being hit with the crushing smell of stale piss and homeless scat mixing in with the breeze from the rolling fog. SF is an example of the paradox of liberty. By holding the liberty of the homeless above all other consideration they have actually made their lives worse than if they were simply institutionalized in a less free society.

I was the first to go but now no one in my entire family lives in CA. My brother and sister were both in SF. My sister is married to a rich (((family))), so they lived nicely. But, no one wants to go back. Shithole.

boomer-tier conservative detected
when are you going to get over the fact that different types of people deserve different rights?

I’ve heard these stories about sf for years but have yet to see evidence. Pics or it didn’t happen

California is odd, some of the strongest laws on keeping things eco and diversity, yet they are the most polluted and segregated place in America.

my dad has stories of SF in the 80s. Think all the homeless problems they have now, except they all had AIDS and were literally dying in the streets. Literally an entire generation of homos and druggies died in the fucking gutters.

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living in SF is what turned Mencius Moldbug into a 'neoreactionary'. just saying

Work camps are already a thing retard. You do logging or farming or quarry work. You even get paid. Convicts consider it preferable to prison as you get a certain degree of freedom. Then presto, when you get out you can get a basic bitch manual labor job because you’be got exp.

Anyone who makes a purchase in a state with sales tax directly pays taxes, chum. Income tax is only one of a tremendous array of taxes leveled against the American people.
The main people who really, truly don't pay taxes are the Rothschild-tier elite.

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> (You)
> >you arrest them for shit like sleeping on sidewalk
> If I have a right to walk on the sidewalk, I have the right to stand on it. If I have the right to stand, I have the right to sleep. People have a right to peaceably be on public property.
> >create Nazi style plantation/work camps away from major population
> The second you do that is the second I start exercising my second amendment rights.

That is why and how CA used to be a nice place before Reagan closed the nice loony bins.

You typical SFer used to be Mr and Mrs Howell from Gilligan's Island. Even working class White SFer used to sound and act like that.

>Desolate freeway
You don't know there's no one there for sure.

>Officer, you see, I fired my gun into the air, because I knew I wouldn't hit anyone!
But you fucking could.

When we restrict an action by law, we can not allow citizens to decide when and where it's allowed at their discretion.
>Sure, you can drive at 90mph, but make SURE there's no one around!

>get drunk af one night in downtown
>have to take a cab home because I walked and public lines shut down at like 11pm or smth
>my cab driver's name is "Grasshopper"
>he gives me his demo CD
>it's nothing special
>look up Grasshopper in Google
>he's notorious for shitting in a can and putting it on a local politician's doorstep

SF was nice but the rent hikes have fucked it up good which is a consequence of the tech elitists all moving there. Fuck those people.

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It was always a hotspot for the gays though. Even back in the 60s, gay guys all gravitated to either SF or NYC.

I started this, out of spite.

Just go to /wg/

i was walking around downtown sanfrancisco once and came across a human turd in a public stairwell near that really windy street. its gross.

sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Violent-attacks-on-BART-employees-rising-12628568.php

Vacationed there for a week about 10 years ago and it was fun but way dirtier and smellier than I would've expected a city like that to be. Now that they have a homeless population of like 1 million shitting all over everything it has to be basically unlivable there.

It's a shithole situated in a great location.

You poor yuppie. Life is so hard in fag sanfrisco. Remember, little faggots like yourself lose their useless high paying jobs all the time and end up on the street. I will pray for your fortune from now until I die just like you do you insufferable faggot

LMAO why are you so butthurt? jealous of the weather?

I'm a Libertarian, and I will never compromise on my principles. The only people undeserving of rights are those unwilling to respect the rights of others.

Work camps are only acceptable on a voluntary basis, or as punishment for a crime. Taking people who have done nothing wrong other than simply existing and forcing them to do work is unethical and unconstitutional. Those who believe they have a right to impose upon the civil liberties of the American people, and who act upon those beliefs, should be destroyed violently, and publicly.

WTF, we too and they are on a zigzag orientation.

The image is foreshortened—or flattened— by the telephoto lens used but not actually shopped. SF really does have some maximum fucking hills. Watch the chase scene in the classic movie “Bullitt”, shot in SF in 1968. Many are on display there. I like how if you go down them fast enough you can get your car airborne at the intersections. Fun thing to do at 3 am in San Francisco if you’re bored.

>Implying anything's good in US

yo i'm quasi-libertarian myself, just not autistic about it. You simply can't have a society working the way it does in SF - rights be damned. Some coercion is needed in order for the vast majority of the population to function and deal with the junkies.
Otherwise you end up with Snow Crash. I know some libertarians who cream their shorts over that shit. It was a warning, not a fucking blueprint.

Underrated and true. SF is literally 50+% white and 35+% Chinese. Thoroughly separated for the most part, with a smattering if equally segregated Hispanics and a scant pinch of niggers clinging by their fingernails to what’s left of the ghetto. Literally one of the most libshit liberal cities in the entire fucking country yet virtually no blacks allowed. They’re being gradually pushed out of Oakland, even. No hypocrites greater than white CA liberals.

I went there a couple years ago and it was perfectly fine?

It wasn't worse than any other major US city.

LA on the other hand is a fucking literal dump.

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I'd post the valentines day nude protest but it might get me banned again.

>SF is perfectly fine
>posts weird as fuck insect on human porn

k y s

>LA on the other hand is a fucking literal dump.
Can’t argue this point. LA has been filthy forever. It’s a trip though. One is never bored in LA. LA is the liveliest huge US city and—from a distance—SF is the most beautiful and romantic. They’re still both terribly fucked up though, and getting worse.

what the actual fuck

Fuck, your bum logic is shittier than the streets you poo on

>porn
ITS EATING HER

that gif... wtf

You tell me

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I worked there for 5 years. Fucking dump. Most downtown areas reek of piss. It's literally douchbag yuppies stepping over half dead homeless passed out on sidewalk and hopschotching over piles of poo. Reminder that homeless aren't harmless. They create crimes daily.

Protip, if you find a great parking spot under an overpass or other area where you see homeless at night, don't fucking park there. You risk getting your window smashed out and your car burgled.

They have laws protecting the homeless and drug addicts, but the city is expensive to live in legitimately. They ended up with a population of yuppies and homeless junkies living together in one place.

This guy?
streetbeatsf.wordpress.com/page/2/

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Wut? I've seen some shit, but this is a whole other lvl of perversion. God help us.

This is one of the things that really makes me question SF being some "liberal controlled hellhole"

The 7x7 square that is SF seems to be relatively all-american and freedom loving. Libertarian Ancaps. You can be whatever you want in that city as long as your impact on others is minimal. You can get away with a lot as long as you don't bother anyone who's actually important.

I'm starting to think its the most elaborate honeypot in the history of ever.

i couldnt even bear to save it

I'm a sailor, so I visit San Francisco pretty often (well, it's usually Oakland these days, but we all go to San Francisco unless we want to spend shore leave with the niggers in Oakland).

San Fran is a fucking shithole, an absolute dump of a city and a perfect example of how liberals ruin shit. You have schizophrenic murderous homeless people shitting in the street while a bunch of yuppie software dev faggots skip by him holding hands, that pretty much sums it up. They have laws to protect the homeless because they love to virtue signal, and then fail to realize that homeless people are the ones stabbing people over $2 and vandalizing everything.

But the worst thing about it is the absolute smug sense of superiority said yuppie faggots have about themselves and their city. They honestly think they're the cultural and economic center of the world because they get paid $300,000 a year to develop indie games or something (but fail to mention that it costs like $500,000 a year to rent a cuckshed in SF), all while their city is destroyed by disgusting drug addicts and shitskins.

it's organic shitlord

I live in Philadelphia. Philly used to have certain areas were most of the homeless people lived and hung out. One area was a public park called Franklin Square, that used to be surrounded by rooming houses, industrial buildings, and cheap apartment buildings. The former mayor decided to clean up the area. All the buildings were rehabbed into art galleries, expensive retail, expensive apartments, etc.
The homeless people who had mostly been contained to a particular area then moved to Love Park and other areas of Center City. So office workers have/had to see them everyday, sleeping next to buildings, panhandling, etc. So the next mayor decided to clean up Love Park, and shut it down for a series of renovations that wound up costing $20 million or more. So the homeless moved down to the Parkway benches, and the Center City train stations, and the concourses connecting the train stations.
Then the city decided to clean up the Parkway, and all the homeless moved to the underground train stations.
Now instead of just avoiding ten square blocks and a park in the city were homeless people hung out in the open, and were cops could easily patrol and see what was going on, you have the homeless hanging out in dark corridors that go in a bunch of different directions, were the police can’t easily patrol, and which looked creapy back when they were originally built, let alone 80 years later when they haven’t been properly maintained.
Basically by trying to “clean up” the city, the mayor, fucked up more important areas of the city.
The mayor was Rendell.

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