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>uneducated religious
Why is it that the "educated, enlightened atheists" are incapable of figuring out why they need to have children to sustain society?

Religiosity is mostly genetically fixed ... seems that some of the genes responsible (mostly those for a 'communal'-leaning personality) also affect reproductive strategy. r/K hypothesis mostly.

Atheism is irrelevant in that regard. Individualists simply have a strong aversion for collectivist creeds, be it the more extreme iterations of monotheism or the pseudoreligion of Marxism.

The key is btw not to outbreed the communal collectivists - we will never be able to do so - but to cull them. Simple as that.

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If he were really redpilled, he'd use the shekels rich liberals pay him for his environmentalist virtue signaling cars to save white farmers in his native South Africa. I respect him for this, but he could really make a difference there.

>tfw to intelligent too reproduce and continue the species

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I frankly think the guy has given up on Earth. While I do not share this sentiment I can at least understand it...

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>tfw intelligent but not aggressive enough to cull the Earth of invasive and useless human sub clades

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Based Musk

Reincarnation of Thomas Edison

The finest capitalism has to offer.

will his battery tech let us electrocute all the jews?

> implying Mars settlements won't be stuffed with saffers
> implying there won't be a mandatory IQ test before boarding a colony rocket
> implications

Still going with that Altright meme? I bet you believe in Anonymous legion as well.

>SpaceX announces Mars colony
>Elongated Muskrat signs up the surviving whites in South Africa
>Rocketed millions of miles away from the nearest niggers to live peacefully and grow turnips in glass domes on Mars

That would be a happy ending.

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You're right, it's just a nice thought. But...

>No iq tests because they would discriminate against borderline retarded blacks whose cultural background diminishes their understanding of understand artificial geometries

Or some lefty nonsense like that. It'll probably be a like getting a job albeit more rigorous.

You know, considering it ... with Falcon rockets it would not be hard to park a lot of satellites with simple reentry vehicles full of potent nerve gas in geostat ... maybe officially designate them as geopositioning sats or new comms network.

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I'd say it is not that unrealistic. Would even assume that participants will be strongly selected and maybe even slightly genetically modified (if possible then, right now ... not so) to survive the conditions on Mars. Low-g is a huge problem, would kick off some rather quick evolutionary adaptions in the settlers anyway.

where the fuck is the problem if there's 50% less people? real estate will be affordable again
look at germany and the netherlands. both countries work even thoguh he neherlands has only 1/5th of germany's population. no one needs to import 60 million niggers to the netherlands for it to work

I like your thinking. Though it would be easier to just toss them out the airlock in distant orbit and hope no one notices.

And I know exactly how to market it.

>Mars
>Israel 2: Electric Boogaloo
>Free tickets for every Zionist Jew (and sympathizer for that matter)
>Fabricate evidence they arrived safely and limit communication with the decoy colony/fake the colony all together.
>In reality they are transferred to a high orbit space station and shot out into the vacuum of space like a runny shit.
>???
>Profit

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The problem lies in that we probably won't be able to automate everything we need to by the time the die-off happens. This is going to cause massive economic disruption, and in the case of Europe both economic and social disruption because they tried to put a bandaid over bone-deep wound.

Oy vey!!!

Srsly, does the ban on space-based warfare incorporate private companies or has this treaty only been signed on the nations level? Would have to check that out ...

>Gentlemen, we must not allow a missile gap!

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There is also the matter of applying a version of the concept "demographics are destiny" to space colonization.
If you can put 50,000 people in space permanently before anyone can put their first 50, if you picked your starting population right it's going to out-reproduce almost all following colony populations. It's just too expensive to move people compared to just having them fuck where they already are. It's why talk of "evacuating" Bangladesh in some mad climate alarmist fever dream is nonsense, the math is not in your favor.
There's an enormous first-mover advantage for space colonization, and almost no one pays attention to it.

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It's not enforceable. It's very much a "you and what army?" situation, which is why Space Piracy is likely early on (even if it's just probes sabotaging other probes to steal their mineral hauls).

That's also most likely why the US has been planning to ensure that they can respond "this army" (pic related) to the prior question. The next decade will determine the course of the next five hundred years of human governance and culture.

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>TSLA is about to get BTFO

suck it

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All it would take is a bill gates of Rothschild level of rich guy to sterilize the water or something in these countries. All of Africa, India, Indonesia, Latin America

Yes, it is hard to enforce unless you go by a 'soft MAD' logic of 'You kill my satellites, I kill yours!'. Companies may be a way to circumvent official diplomatic customs. Ridiculous in a way, I know, but that seems to be how geopolitics work...

Yes, founder's effect. Would be a 'joke of history' if this would AGAIN establish a civilization mostly based on Indoeuropean steppe ancestry.

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>founder's effect
And right now, there are a very limited number of possible "founders"

>USA
>Russia
>China
>France
>UK
>Japan
>India
>New Zealand

And only a tiny number of those could marshal the industrial might necessary to construct colony ships and then support colonies until they can sustain themselves.

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>inb4 mars colony becomes a galactic empire and comes back to conquer earth.

I doubt anyone is getting off this rock for good without a global effort. We need to profoundly transform our economic systems, so we can cooperate on a grand scale, to have a chance of something like this succeeding. Look at the scale of engineering that was acheived by countries like Germany, the USA, and Russia in the last century. That was just to compete here on Terra. We wanna go offworld, we all have to work together. It's one of the prerequisites of the Great Filter. And we better be taking a library of all the useful DNA. Tibetan Denisovan low-oxygen genes, for starters, might prove useful. Does anyone think about how DIFFICULT it is to live nevermind thrive in any environment that is not Earth? I know Hollywood has us all thinking it's going to be some Battle of the Corporations out there in the new Wild West, but this is a serious, serious business that we are only just beginning to fathom how to do without tragedy, which we have seen. It will likely only occur after we stabilize our population and resolve the better part of our differences. Escape at this point is still FANTASY

> lefty nonsense
you can keep it all VERY above-board
like
> to avoid discrimination of any sort, we are running all our candidacy tests in triple-blind format
> both IQ and BMI are strong predictors of survival in catastrophic situations. we are making a colony, not sending people to colorful deaths
> we have structured our messaging and initial selection so that 10 diverse individuals are fed into the pipeline for each fucking white male (which does nothing, since we're feeding in complete trash that gets churned out immediately, along with our white and asian STEM dudes&dudettes)
> we have established a Mars Academy, to provide the necessary STEM skills to disadvantaged groups (sit back and lol as disadvantaged groups smoke crack on their front porch instead of attending)

>Tibetan Denisovan low-oxygen genes

Good point!

that would be like growing up into this great and successful dude, only to go back home and fuck your mom

If it happens, it will be an Ark.

>I doubt anyone is getting off this rock for good without a global effort.
There are surprisingly few things that you can't build with some good general industrial equipment. Once you can build a new microchip fab off of Earth, from scratch, you're set to make basically anything.
>And we better be taking a library of all the useful DNA
A couple hard drives plus engraved glass backups should do the trick.

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>we don't need to have children, we just need to murder billions of people!

every time.

LIVE A SIMPLER LIFE

HAVE 10 KIDS

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Could also do with sterilization ... more 'humane'. We're simply not 'designed' to outbreed them unless we want to turn into them.

Fair, that's how a good pr department would spin it. Realistically it wouldnt be too hard to find enough smart blacks to send along to satiate the identity politics hoard, and plus it would improve the race on Mars as it develops from it's most intellectual stock.

talking aboit it isnt a redpill. The lefties chatter about it all the time openly. Then say "and thats a good thing"

Musk has five kids. What is your excuse?

He’s been saying this since at least 2015.

There's also the point that in the early decades, being dumb is going to be a terminal disease. If you can't fix a seal by the age of eight, or troubleshoot a CO2 scrubber by the age of 13, you're not going to last long.

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Considering that at least American blacks have statistically quite a bit of European DNA mixed in ... some of them may simply be lucky to max out on the beneficial European gene variants. I do not mind what colour they have, for what it's worth they may as well be purple ... it is simply that being black usually comes with African genetics and all the parameters of intelligence and behaviour attached to this 'human' lineage.

>Yes send Shekels to the farmers, I'm sure they won't get stolen by the government.

The guy is going to build a bigass rocket to go to mars, and only healthy people above 120 IQ will get to go on it, meaning only whites and Japanese, who are young, fertile, do not have any physical or mental diseases or genetic abnormalities.

Niggers, having an IQ of 85, riddled with diseases and genetic disorders, will NOT be going. And when the media inevitably pushes for diverse representation, Musk will tell them

"It's my rocket, I pick who goes on it, fuck off."

you Sandniggers are a smelly shitskin who fuck goats and suck mens cocks in delight, mohammad was a gay lord, Pedo and a rapist pig who eats Pork chops... you should go back to the dust bowl from wence you came filth! DEAL WITH IT

He's a free white man of good character. They've always been allowed to immigrate.

This is a solid point. A sizable fraction of the US black population is about as african as some "irish americans" are irish. Pic related.

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>DEAL WITH IT

Exactly.

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well yeah. one black dude in the US in the >120 IQ cohort for every four whites and four asians, iirc?
make sure the coloreds are vastly overrepresented in the public-facing positions (easy, since they're more likely to cluster at the low end of the usefulness scale, so it's better to dump PR duties on them)
make sure colonial governance is based on direct democracy so the activist poc's never get a chance to get on top
and speaking of behavior - yea, screening for certain well-known behavior-modifying genetic defects and diseases can also clean up your pool by the nice, soft filtering method
maybe in a second step offer treatments for such (Mars is not under any jurisdiction, you can run all sorts of crazy science there)

going to mention again
>being stupid is fatal in space

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In 1940 there was only ~130mil people in the US. We could return to that number or even lower and be just fine.
We just have to stop letting third worlders in.

I'd assume that the key is the ancient hunter-gatherer lineage from Northern Eurasia. You sometimes find that one in quite 'unlikely' places, mostly due to the massive expansion of the Indoeuropeans (some say they even brought 'civilization' to China only to be mostly outbred and mutted by the Yangtse Neolithic farmers).

Frankly, if I see an African (and ours here in Europe are mostly 'pure stock') I feel ... revulsion. I don't know why exactly, it appears instinctive to me. But there are a few exceptions to that rule ... a very few appear to me like 'proper human beings' at the first glance. I do wounder if this really has to do with the small but distinct influx of European hunter-gatherer genes into some African populations due to back migration into a Green Sahara during the Paleolithic. Kin selection is a strong mechanism, only question is how you recognize 'kin' ... facial shape? Body language? Subtle olfactory clues due to similar immune system (affects composition of skin microbes after all which 'produce' body odour)?

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>r/K
All humans are K. It pisses me off when people act like they know what they are talking about and say some races/cultures are r.

Humans only have a single baby (twins, triplets are exceptions). A Human baby is totally incapable of fending for itself for several years. Giving birth to single offspring that require years of care is absolutely 100% a K strategy. Even niggers popping out welfare babies is still a K strategy. Humans don't reach sexual maturity until they are 10+ years old. This is also a K strategy.

Trying to say some humans are r is like calling Bernie Sanders right wing. Yeah he is right wing compared to Marx... But both are still solidly left wing. All humans are solidly K. Yes some races/cultures might have some slightly more r strategies than others. But they are still far into the K side of the spectrum.

Humans are one of the most K species on the planet.

>screening for certain well-known behavior-modifying genetic defects and diseases

Could be easily justified with some bullcrap about 'space cabin fever' being a risk during the rather long trip as well as later due to confined living conditions in a cramped colonial infrastructure.

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oh definitely. it's a nice in-situ, zero-cost filter for the Martian gene pool. the bright and cooperative will survive and breed, laqueesha will forget to seal her visor because she's high on space weed

These digits right after Uncle A's Bday...
Did you see someone in ptg got like 6-7 8s in a row saying Hitler will rise again?

you know, the part that I will find most amusing, if I live that long, is how Mars will very rapidly become TOO diverse (culturally) and TOO inclusive (racially) for the folks back on Terra
they're bound to diverge culture-wise at an extremely rapid pace, and those same enviro pressures will induce population mixing and eventual (but very fast) speciation

I agree with you to a certain extent. r/K is flawed in the description of human reproductive strategy. I see the difference in reproductive strategy in either going for communal or individualistic lifestyle ... either relying on the group to ensure success OR going 'solitary' and relying on one's own skills. First strategy would quite likely come with an adaption towards more progeny while the second would be more 'risky' but could reap higher reward and may be better in a harsh environment that cannot be compensated for by culture.

You're a wrong dumb faggot. The best way to proceed is to go the Alien movies route of mega corps taking to the stars. Competition is what drives us further not government bureaucracy. Dead space is closer to reality than some Star Trek utopia nonsense.

Yes, witnessed, guy with a Syrian(!) flag. Damnit, I almost rolled 1488 yesterday ... fuck, Vorsehung is a fickle thing.

>the eternal Austrian will rise again!

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>6000 cars a week by June

LOL

Chevy can’t even give away 6000 Bolts you dillusional fuck.

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you got it a bit backwards. K selectors are favored in relatively resource-rich niches
Mars will be r-selected for a long time! Longhouses, 5 kids per family, communal raising and education

The mechanics are moot. The reality is that some groups will yield more viable candidates than not. If someone isn't viable, odds are going to tilt them toward being sorted out or blended down due to environmental pressures. Nature will literally take its course.

A legal immigrant and hes also white*

>Kibbutz style Mars colony

That might actually not be that far off ... would be interesting how this may affect 'short-term' adaption.

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kibbutz living works... they're the high-tech motor of Israeli economy nowadays. entire villages of engineers or biotech peeps.

Amplified social pressures against the terminally stupid. If you have an idiot in your hab, it's only a matter of time until he kills you all.
It's only a matter of time for him to wander out an airlock with a "mysteriously loose helmet latch."

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I disagree. I think a Mars colony would be heavily K. Resources are going to be very limited. Every offspring would need to be a productive, intelligent, educated individual that would contribute to the success of the colony. There is no room for welfare leaches in an extremely hostile environment with limited resources.

>feel cramped in my glass dome
>get in my space suit
>rev up my electric dirt bike
>go slaying sand dunes all day

Fuck Mars and its 0,3g. It will fuck up humans who will live there. We need rotating orbital habitats with 1g.

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> terminally dumb kids get shipped to Earth for their own safety, removing them from the gene pool

he has 5 kids but 1000 times my net worth. whats HIS excuse?

what welfare leeches? you will have people dropping left and right from cancers, accidental deaths, whatever new pathogens get selected over there... you need lots and lots of kids.

>We're simply not 'designed' to outbreed them unless we want to turn into them.
Are you talking about burning down your local church, and killing all the law abiding catholic families with 2.1 kids? Or are you talking about Africa?

I'm not a billionaire

This. Kanye is whiter than most of Jow Forums

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>shipped to earth
"Yeah, we sent Jayden to a nice farm on Earth! The nice one with those fuzzy animals your dad used to have that we showed you videos of last week! He'll all be able to run and run and do better than he was here with us."
"By the way, you're going to have to help us mix some washed regolith with that new batch of organics from Acidalia tomorrow morning kiddo."

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Do you have any kids at all?

>Total Recall
Fucking love this movie

shows you the benefits of legal migration. we should let in more south africans like based elon

You're not white unless you listen to kanye daily

you brought a tear to my eye
> Oh boy, I know I know it's the only thing he could talk about for weeks! I'm so happy for him! Sure I will help with the regolith, but can I go canyon-flying with Kip and Lam Singh next week though? Kip's dad has come up with this idea that we should go with NACA 9438.5 chords for our gliders and we're dying to test it out!

I wouldn't be surprised if genetic engineering allows us to adapt to other world environments. I think the next 100 years are going to be quite crazy. Look at how different the world is today from 1890. We have gone from no electricity, horse and buggy, and no radio to computers, smart phones, internet etc.

I think 2120 is going to be more different from today than today is different from 1890. I think us unraveling the genetic code and mastering it is going to be more world changing than electricity and the invention of the computer. We will literally be able to edit and change biological traits at will.

People in 1890 thought flight was a fantasy. I think we are incapable of really understanding what life will be like 100 years from now. Even in Star Trek TNG their sci-fi prop tablets were thicker than iPads and their internet was slower than high speed internet today. I remember an episode where Picard searched for an inspirational quote he couldn't remember the source for and the computer said it would take hours to return the result. Google could find it in 0.1 seconds. Even today we have shit that in the late 80's and early 90's seemed like total sci-fi.

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This

what if i did? how would you argue the net worth to child gap?

Not an argument

No you can't. There is no going back short of ww3/meteor strike.
No one will support selective breeding because muh fefes. Enjoy drowning in dumb inherited disease trash.

For those not following along, technically Jayden did get sent to a nice farm. It's not on Earth though.

No, yourvpost isn't an argument. I gave several examples of how all humans are absolutely K and how some people are only slightly more r than others.

My example of Bernie Sanders and Karl Marx is a great analogy. Calling any human r is like calling Bernie Sanders right wing. It only makes sense if you zoom so far in on the spectrum that you ignore the other 90% of the spectrum. Yeah if you zoom all they way in on the left wing then maybe you could plot Bernie Sanders on the far right and Marx on the left. But they are both still far left.

Likewise all humans are extremely K, probably one of, if not the most K species on the planet. Yes some people have slightly more r strategies than others, but they are still so far K that calling them r is as retarded as calling Bernie Sanders right wing.

Literally this. Fuck going all the way to another planet. Build spinning habitation stations that farm and shit after the earth is too poisoned to grow. Collect solar power and beam it to earth via high energy lasers.

*trembles*