Biomedical gerontologist Aubrey de Grey (PhD, University of Cambridge) believes that we have at least a 50% chance of achieving 'longevity escape velocity' (adding more than 1 year to our remaining lifespan each year) within the next 20 years. He has invested almost his entire net worth (less the value of his personal effects and primary residence) into a foundation working towards this goal, the SENS Research Foundation, based in Mountain View, California. (www.sens.org).
De Grey estimates that the SENS Research Foundation requires approximately $40m in annual funding to maximise the pace of the research - the limiting factor at that point being the inherent difficulty of the science.
The Foundation currently has approximately $5m in annual funding, and De Grey estimates that the speed of progress is currently only about a third of what it would be at $40m/year.
Do you believe in this project? Can it be achieved at all, on any timescale? And is it likely, in your view, that we will reach 'longevity escape velocity' in a ~20 year timeframe?
Have you ever noticed that all of these marvels are always 10 or twenty years away, no matter what year it is?
Nathan Myers
>putting money into california
wew
Hudson Bennett
>Do you believe in this project? Can it be achieved at all, on any timescale? And is it likely, in your view, that we will reach 'longevity escape velocity' in a ~20 year timeframe? Not if the Jews get to it first.
This snow nigger is fucking retarded. It is guarenteed that humans will achieve immortality in some form (or multiple) within the next 50 years.
>maintenance: i.e growing and replacing failing organs >transplant: cloning your body, inducing coma on clone, letting it grow to maturity, then transplanting your brain into the new host which has identical dna so no issue of graft v host >symbiosis: nanomachines programmed to attack cancerous cells, and can control output/production of stem cells, hgh, etc to prevent aging >cyborg: transplant brain into machine, 1:1 neural link between brain and machine replicating all senses
All of these will be possible within 50 years, as most have already made serious progress over the last 5-10yrs
>Wanting to extend the already too long lifespans that modern medicine affords us
Mason Richardson
This is about reversing aging, not about living as a 90 year old for 200 years.
Thomas Reed
>Aubrey de Grey >Grey >immortality scientist
Luis Stewart
I didn't say that it was.
Blake Ortiz
Its called a "scam".
Brody Flores
Yeess, give me more money, and I can find the fountain of youth, yes, more, more, more.
Colton Bailey
what's his stack?
Lucas Turner
>wanting to live forever in this miserable world
Joshua Bennett
isn't there a jellyfish that is immortal? i genuinely believe we can become immortal and far sooner than we think and i don't think this is a scam at all.
Easton Butler
Onions, lead, gay chemicals.
Hunter Hernandez
honestly I am of the belief God, the creator changed the way this universe functions when the first pair chose full knowledge of good and evil over innocence and since that time some fundamental physical property of this universe makes human immortality impossible.. its something about the decay principle in matter entropy maybe.. it is hard coded into all atomic matter.. think of it like a super dimensional law of hyper-physics no amount of improved energy utilization by our cells will ever be able to counteract the immeasurably greater over arching force ordering this ultimate decay.
want to live as long as naturally possible? get all your micronutrients while practicing calorie restriction on an anti-inflammatory diet, meanwhile maximize your income and minimize your cost of living, accumulating wealth so that you will be able to afford the treatments when they become available.
Easton Ortiz
>wanting to live longer That sounds terrible tbqh
Caleb Edwards
There are mechanisms in place in case humanity starts to play God. Trust me, the first people, who start living over 150 years will wish they died when their time was right. We never really die, nothing in this universe does.
Austin Russell
Eternal life is given only by Jesus
Ian Cook
How do you have a x8 funding increase, with a x3 progress increase? Stupid ass boomer faggot, shove a microscope up your asshole and an hero off the roof.
It's likely he will run off with 40 million, and you will still die alone in an average lifespan.
Caleb Lopez
the eternal boomer
GOD WHAT HAVE WE DOOOONE
Charles Cox
the molecular machinery that makes up your biology breaks down through the process of living, we have repair mechanisms, but they also break down. We could potentially find a way to repair the repair mechanisms and that's what biological immortality is.
Jack Gonzalez
Nice catch. It's probably intended.
Cooper Turner
Yeah, but we/they will get there soon. Maybe we will be the last generation who dies of aging... sad So close, but infinitely far away
Luis Cruz
inshallah boomers won't make it
Nolan Myers
Buy stock in private security companies. The megarich kike degenerates who know they're going to hell will do anything to make sure their enhanced longevity is never threatened.
Do you really want 200 year old jew pedophiles continuing to menace society, or would you sacrifice yourself to maybe kill one of them? I think enough people would make the right choice here.
Jacob Johnson
I don't think anybody would want to live forever, but if I could stay in the condition that I am now (20 years old) for as long as I want and then kill myself when I've had enough then I would be all for it.
I just pray everyday that that son of a bitch Henry Kissinger dies already before this is a reality.
Jaxon Murphy
Oy vey goy, just send us shekels, we promise to deliver results, in, oh, 20 years or so, you can trust us. Aww cmon, don't be an anti-semite.
Caleb Cox
Holy fuck is this High Level Insider?
Brayden Hill
I'm pretty sure biological immortality for humans already exists in some form at this point, it's also likely the world's best kept and most heavily guarded secret. It probably won't be available to the public for centuries, if ever.
Nathaniel Wood
>Immortality cost only 40 mil. USD
Nigger, if that was the case, we would have shittons of these "live forever institutes". 40 mil. isn't shit. For fuck sake user.
Jack Gutierrez
all those geriatric monsters are probably too far gone, they have too much DNA damage already, so the treatments that are likely to work best soonest, stem cells and telomerase, would dramatically increase their risk of cancer, and aggressive cancer because you just gave it a an epigenetic boost
Hudson Rogers
Actually, there's a bunch of them now. Bunch of tech companies are investing in them, google dropped a billion in a half establishing their own.
Sebastian Hall
>biology breaks down the reason for this is what I refer to .. there is a kind of force like gravity for instance that is universally functioning and causing this decay. No method of supplying the repair mechanism the energy and materials it requires to carry out its normal natural function will ever be sufficient to permanently counteract this greater law which is constantly placing just enough resistance on our biology that the equation can never be changed for our benefit.. hypothetically if you could connect your mitochondria to an energy pool that the decay principle could be counteracted and always fed the optimal basic components to build new cell structures you would have to think you could extend life indefinitely. The Sun's energy may be the best we can do.. it actually does everything our biophysics requires.. and sitting here on a sunny day proves I am not practicing what I am preaching so i am going outside.
Landon Rivera
immortality is impossible, why would anyone want to live forever? btw all your nigger pets can kill u anyway, immortality doesnt mean u are immune to bullets or disease
Ian Torres
de grey has been shilling his foundation for a while, I found out about it around a decade ago. let desperate boomers fund it, use your money to optimize your own health
I'm just curious is all. I believe HLI to be the real deal and he said "indefinite life extension is right around the corner", and then further said in about 10-20 years.
Jonathan Garcia
Oh! The Eternal Boomer will strike once more!
Brayden Morales
I prefer reincarnation, thanks.
James Roberts
There are actually quantifiable mechanisms for the decay, telomeres shorten when cells divide, radical oxygen species break apart your DNA, etc. Excessive sunbathing will accelerate DNA damage because UV creates those free radicals in your skin cells. There is a balance of stresses, to some extent stress causes a response in your biology that makes you more resilient to similar stress, thats why many phytochemicals that are technically "toxins" have a health-promoting effect, but too much of a good thing can hurt you.
Angel Perez
All monuments were built in anticipation of millennials being the last generation to be able to die. nbd
Julian Rivera
Hey, I liked that guy in Wolverine
Dylan Perez
there's lots of exciting stuff going on in biomedical research right now. Mel Gibson went on JRE to talk about his dad getting stem cell treatments in Panama, worth a listen.
Aaron Morgan
Lobsters are biologically immortal, they just get eaten or crushed by gravity when they get too big
Xavier Sanchez
the georgia guidestones come to mind
Logan Jenkins
But desperate boomers get their money through taxation
Nicholas Moore
No. Cancer would still be a problem. It’s why we have a lifespan in the first place.
David Ward
>live to see biological immortality >get stabbed by achmed
Jaxson Gonzalez
What this guy is saying is that the universe ends no matter what. Eventually we will suffer an energy death and there will be no way to carry consciousness across that void. I personally intend to see a vast lifespan and maybe even the end of the universe but this dude is right. We all meet god some day.
Chase Baker
What happens about one’s brain itself decaying though?
Adam Richardson
It’s a myth: lobsters have an incredible lifespan for a creature of its type and size but it’s still only 30-60 years. At some point the lobster will stop being able to molt its shell and they’ll die of complications from that. The same way humans die from heart and lung issues in old age but the cause of death isn’t listed as “old age” anymore
Jose King
I'd have witnessed cancer being cured about 20 times in my lifetime if these 10-year away solutions ever played out.
Lincoln Cooper
ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Jordan Ward
I'll have to look into that. Immortality is a fun subject to think about, especially considering it seems close to being a reality. For the most part, people believed in some sort of afterlife. That belief faded and nihilistic sentiment increased. Would immortality incline people towards even greater nihilistic tendencies or would it free people from that mental shackle of "nothing matters"?
Gavin Howard
our genes are also inherently degenerate, people get autoimmune diseases, and basically all our life processes are poisoning us all the time, its really kind of a miracle we live in such good health for as long as we do as it is. true, true, but all of Earth's existence is a tiny blip on the history of the universe, its almost unfathomable to imagine living to be 200 or 1000 years let alone millions or billions. Science and technology has advanced by leaps and bounds in the recent past, when continuity has been maintained by a succession of thinkers whose productive life is measured in decades. Who's to say what discoveries could be made when people live for millenia?
Chase Collins
Sounds plausible. I thought I read somewhere some university had kept a lobster for 50 years to study it. Of course getting any real data on this is hard, due to all the clickbait shit like this
Why? So plutocrats and fucking dictators can live for like 300 years? So you can die from cancer or dementia anyway? Unless it is available to everyone and we can prevent cancer/dementia, fuck that.
Anthony Martin
As technology progresses people will one day be making this shit in their garage for an eighth grade science fair project. No matter how hard people try, you cant keep a piece of tech from the world forever. Most big inventions historically were invented by more than one person in two totally different places who didnt know anything about eachother
Nathaniel Harris
The Georgia Guidestones are a fucking farce and they aren't worth the middle of nowhere farmland they sit on. >t. A guy who has been there to see them in all their un-spellchecked glory.
Isaiah Sanchez
All things are impermanent. There's no such thing is immortality.
Jackson Cruz
Yea, seems rather reasonable, I would say its closer to 70% right now.
Brayden Cruz
Why would you want to live forever on this gay planet? It gets worse every year. I'm already comfortable with permanently checking out.
Jason Scott
>available to everyone the ethical issue is that we most likely won't have the resources for that at current population sizes, hence why the globalist elites love depopulation so much
Cooper Wright
i agreed to move my sorry ass and get productive against a promise. the promise i may one day lay and stay laid, peace at last.
Owen Johnson
I believe him. Aubrey's smart af, SENS has the endorsement of several very prominent biologist (Judith Campisi, Tony Atala, George Church etc.), and there's evidence for several SENS components (nature.com/news/destroying-worn-out-cells-makes-mice-live-longer-1.19287) some of which are now going into clinical trials. I doubt whether it will be within the next 20 years, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't some form of life extension, via regenerative medicine, by 2050.
Camden Fisher
Its a retarded goal so retards might as well throw their full weight behind it
Daniel Parker
>i just need a small loan of 35 million dollars a year guys
Elijah Perry
I don't want to live forever. Perkūnas wouldn't like it.
nobody wants to die.. I am going to reach 55 this Summer and I live alone .. nobody cares wether I live or die.. some might find my existence meaningless yet the other day I got up from a nap and the thought of my own mortality was present in my mind in a way it had never been before. I had always been able to ignore such thougth and indeed I did dismiss it swiftly but it got a lot more real for a few moments .. its fear of the unknown and a sense of the extinguishing of ones existence that creates so much anxiety but what if the other side were more marvelously wonderful than we can imagine...
Daniel Martinez
Don't fall for this cope. You're setting up for disappointed when it doesn't happen or you aren't one to get it.
Robert Allen
Eh, I'd say it's probably possible in the imminent future there'll be some life extension possibilities for the mega rich, but if you think real immortality is around the corner you're fucking bonkers lmao
Mason Hughes
Inb4 the boomers achieve immortality to fuck over the other generations indefinitely
Bentley Richardson
Once we achieve Artificial Super Intelligence the tin man will just email us schematics for all the inventions. If he doesn't then were probably cooked anyway.
Nolan Wright
>immortality True biological immortality is impossible simply because the universe will eventually come to an end. On the other end, I'm open to the possibility that scientists will find a way to reverse the biological mechanisms that determine aging.
Gavin Gutierrez
on the other hand* shit
Anthony Barnes
One of these things is not like the other
Nathaniel Howard
I'm only 23 but the way I see it, theres no good reason to give up. Nothing has gotten us yet. I walk through life with the confidence that I am in the right place and time to gain that immortality. In 30 years people will be having limbs regrown from copies of their DNA. We can already do some crazy shit, the tech just needs to be made cheaper and more powerful as usual. I mean right this second we HAVE the technology, believe me dude. Its just prohibitively expensive and underpowered like the first computers.
Samuel Ross
It's not about living forever. It's about stopping the aging process so we can more or less choose when to go out and so we don't have to spend our last years as a pathetic shadow of ourselves.
Ethan Russell
That thought always makes me so bitter....
Carter Jones
I want off of this hell ride before my mind turns to jelly.
Nathaniel Flores
>50% chance of achieving 'longevity escape velocity'
You do realise that 50% is completely random, right?
"It is our opinion that SENS is flawed in both method and co ntent and fits commonly used definitions of pseudoscience, including the one proposed by Friedlander [4]. Various means have been used to intermix the highly speculative and unscientific ideas of de Grey with the legitimate science of others, which tends to camouflage the obvious deficiencies of SENS. The value of SENS lies within the elements of real science that are the product of decades of scientific effort by others, and SENS’ scientific va lue appears to be no greater th an the sum of these parts"
Tyler Nguyen
I'm not sure I want to make it to 30 desu
Levi Gomez
Why should I trust the retarded hippie who works at Whole Foods to have any understanding of science?
Nicholas Reed
The reason that all God’s creatures eventually die from old age is because of one huge flaw in our systems: cancer.
We are collections of billions of cells working together in a very exact way. Everything has signals and messengers and ultimately every cell has to play along for this whole life thing to work. Just one cell going solo and replicating for itself isn’t a problem per se because your body can catch it stop it. But there is always the tiny chance it won’t be able to detect anything’s wrong. As a result a single slip through the cracks and you have a tumor, a mutation later and it’s malignant and colonizing other parts of your body. There are ways to fight cancer and one of those ways is limiting the amount of replication possible. It’s why you age. Your telomeres slowly grind down over your lifespan. The enzyme telemerase could repair it but it would absolutely give you cancer. Infinite life stuff is a dream, maybe one day, but we are lifetimes away from it
Luis Garcia
Seriously, what is it with the Boomer generation and their inability to deal with the concept of aging and biological death?
John Smith
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Ethan Gray
Everyone has to face death, I don’t want to go before my time but I also don’t want to live as a glorified zombie on tune feeding and being turned by staff every few hours
Jason Murphy
>Dr Grey
This mother fucker is going to achieve immortality by the amount of god damn alcohol he consumes. Ever see a documentary on this weirdo? He drinks like a gallon of vodka a day basically... likes to sleep around like crazy.
