How to not get fucked by marriage?

I want to marry a woman. I want to have kids. But I don't want to ruin my life and get cucked by the legal system. I don't trust women. How do you married bros deal with this? Do you trust your wives?

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>How do you married bros deal with this?
They're delaying the inevitable through denial.

All my married friends are fucking around on their husbands, or want to.
Even the devout christian types.
It's a sad world.

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>Do you trust your wives?
I did
Was a big mistake

have bastard kids with a woman. Don't marry it's a trap.

don't marry a women.
marry a trap, or crisper aryan modded asian waifu
if you're brown, get a muslim.

best option is to just knock up a woman who a court would consider incapable of raising a child. being a single father with no marriage seems the best case in the modern world. it's either that or accept that your wife will cheat on you and eventually take more than half your shit, half your future shit, and your child.

well this is depressing

You have to pick the right kind of girl.
Keep in mind Joe Normie is a fucking retard.
So naturally, Joe Normie marries lunatics and sloots. Thus the divorce rate is high.
Your primary job on this planet is to find a good wife. If you can't even do that, you should just kill yourself.

Live together, don't get married.
Everyone is fine until marriage, then it goes to crap.
Knowing you get half of everything makes you give up the courting game, it's too tempting of a deal.
Add someone else flirting and promising a better more exciting life (always happens, usually the mans best friend) and you have a recipe for disaster.

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you need to either maintain your status constantly or develop emotional bonds through powerful experiences strong enough to withstand propaganda and the female hormonal cycle

I recommend using drugs that don't tend to result in abuse or addiction (tryptamines/phenethylamines)

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Story time

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Yep now I know why I never got married

>I recommend using drugs
Bad idea. Grounds for divorce.

Invest in some crypto before you get married and never tell her about it ,also avoid marrying a whore.

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>before you get married and never tell her about it
Withholding funds from spouse = spouse getts it all in divorce.
Do your research before spouting non-sense. You can lose a civil case years after the divorce if it comes to light you were hiding funds during divorce hearing.

shit like this is why I'm hopeless

You should never trust anything without proof and even if there is proof she shouldn't hand around other men, besides rare occasions like family. Americans have strange relationship with women, you think your wife is not your friend and that you wife should have friends. Your wife shouldn't have male friends.

Again, its fine to date and raise kids, just dont fall for the marriage lie.
It's been corrupted years ago.
Stay together, but stay individuals, the threat of being booted with no alimony is enough to make things work like they have been.
People are more scared to mess it up when they aren't promised alimony/childsupport/your house.

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Get an autistic wife

I wouldn’t get married the legal way. Avoid the governmental marriage certificate. It will always fuck your over, and there’s nothing traditional about it. Go to church with your friends and family, say your vows in front of a minister, and then you’re married. That’s how people have been doing it for thousands of years.

Install hidden cameras in your home. Never tell your wife about these. If she neglects the children in any minor way, you can present the footage to a judge if a divorce ever occurs and take custody of your children. If she’s someone who would consider a divorce, chances are that she did neglect the children in some way. Whether it’s leaving a knife on the floor, leaving the kids unintintended, or substance abuse, you will have the video footage to prove it.

That's literally how people weren't doing it. People had simple marriage, this church bullshit is relatively new, including church funeral bullshit. It was queen Victoria that invented wearing black clothing in funeral, it was New York Jews who invented suits, so you can imagine how relatively new this suit church nonsense is and it never worked. Fuck church and fuck Kike religion.

>Install hidden cameras in your home. Never tell your wife about these. If she neglects the children in any minor way, you can present the footage to a judge if a divorce ever occurs and take custody of your children.
This is why I chose the perma-virgin almost a nun route. I don't see the point in pairing up if it means constant battles.
I've been on blind dates thanks to friends being dumb and trying to get me involved with it, it's all so tiresome.

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wait
jews invented the suit?
but i like my suits

living past 25 without being married is an absolute hell for me if I think about it, only a few months until I reach it.
It's either I ask out my uni crush that hinted we can have a new begining after school is over, or I spend the rest of my life with hookers and psychedelics off my high income

urban life and university is an absolute torture if you want a faithful relationship with someone, it's something about it that rots everyone and makes commitment impossible

at the end of the day if you can make even one child your biological duty is carried out

What do you think prom dance means? prom = promotional = promote suits of Jews, like early fashion and who wears black suits if not Jews?

Why not use your extra time and money to help less fortunate children?
Help the future generations become good people.
Not everyone needs a suitor, it takes a village to raise a child, something something community.

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I'd agree with you if no-fault divorce and tender years doctrine wasn't the standard. It is, so you're wrong.

This is so heartbreaking to me...
I think marriage is very important and should be incentivized by the state to have stable family units and healthy children.
But I agree that clearly the risks inherent in its corrupted state are too great for men. It's an unacceptable risk to take and that insecurity and fear doesn't make for a healthy, strong, monogamous, lifetime bond.

I think marriage should still exist for our people, but it should be parallel to the existing institution and wholly community based and enforced. We need to have our own parallel communities that are small and close knit enough to make divorce and not performing one's marriage duties heavily frowned upon. No state marriage (civil unions?) but just community enforced monogamous bonds, with a more modest wedding-like ceremony + celebration.

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Why do you guys even want to get married in today's social climate. You will most likely get cheated on and divorced with the chick taking half of your current and future wealth. Don't fall for the Thot meme.

>tender years doctrine
Had to look that up, wow, that's a terrible rule. Definitely should be on a case by case basis.

>Fuck church and fuck Kike religion.
Good luck finding your traditional atheist wife. I’m an atheist, but I’m mute about it. My family is very religious, and I have close connections with religious girls that I will take advantage of after I graduate uni.

>Why do you guys even want to get married in today's social climate
We can't help it.

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Church used to be a big thing, you would be shamed by everyone for being divorced.
Community doesn't exist anymore, we're all just random people barely interacting with neighbors.
People call it the NPC syndrome I think, where others are just NPC's in their personal game.
It is a sad world we live in, and I don't know how you could undo the programming of the consumerist system.

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A Christian woman will not even consider divorce though, making the communist divorce laws irrelevant.

Divorce Among Adults Who Have Been Married
(Base: 3792 adults)

Population Segment Have Been Divorced No. of Interviews

All adults 33% 3792

Evangelical Christians 26% 339
Non-evangelical born again Chrisitans 33% 1373
Notional Christians 33% 1488
Associated with non Christian faith 38% 197
Atheist or agnostic 30% 269
All born again Christians 32% 1712
All non born again Christians 33% 2080

Protestant 34% 1997
Catholic 28% 875

Upscale 22% 450
Downscale 39% 367

White 32% 2641
African-American 36% 464
Hispanic 31% 458
Asian 20% 128

Conservative 28% 1343
Moderate 33% 1720
Liberal 37% 474

(Source: The Barna Group, Ventura, CA)

Lower rate but not that far off from average.

those numbers are insane

>Why not use your extra time and money to help less fortunate children?
no one will give a child for adoption to a single male, and single parent famillies hurt the child, be it male or female parent
it's something about molding your own child from the begining that adoption will never give
adoption should be reserved for infertile couples
plus, I have big issues with taking someone else's responsability and making it my own without the original parents not paying any price. Why should me or others be the dumping ground for someone else's lack of planning? A lot of kids turn against their adoptive parents in later age


>Help the future generations become good people
people and societies need to learn from their own mistakes and misery, suffering and pain is the best educator. I used to think that you need to change people, but I see now that a lot of people make mistakes or are in bad situations because of their own faults only they can fix

I wasn't talking about adoption, sorry.
I meant why not volunteer in programs to help teach children, arts and crafts, farming lessons, things valuable to community and life.
Helping families in need, helping neighbors.
>people and societies need to learn from their own mistakes and misery, suffering and pain is the best educator.
Not always, that's how you end up with ISIS and child soldiers of Africa.

You have to keep in mind how easy it is to say "I'm a Christian." and not actually have the values that title implies.
You have to be picky if you want have a marriage that lasts.

>Asians have the lowest divorce rate
>AND the cutest women

marriage is nigger-tier, don't do it

I grew up in the bible belt, I can say from personal experience most Christians are liars and thieves.
The truly devout are few and far between, and usually will not be found in a large church.
Corruption runs deep.

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Prenuptial agreement.

Stay together for the kids, or you will end up with fuck ups like me.

You don't even know the half of it. You haven't had to experience it.

>Why do you guys even want to get married in today's social climate
what else there is to do with your time? no really, grind exp for a game? watch some show and see other people kiss and fuck? go to the gym like an autist to impress the same girls your can't form a close emotional bond to?drugs?
the weeks and days come and go and you are still in the same numb state, at least that's how it is for me

>I meant why not volunteer in programs to help teach children, arts and crafts, farming lessons, things valuable to community and life.
because at the end of the day it's still a surrogate, it's only a reminder of my failure to be a parent. Those children will have actual parents that take care of them at the end of the day

>People call it the NPC syndrome I think, where others are just NPC's in their personal game.
That's just a fancy way of describing solipsism

Exactly, the Bible even warns that most "Christians" are in name only.
Strait is the gate and narrow the way and few there be that find it.

just remember to beat your bitch regularly to keep her in check and you'll be fine

Lie about how much money you make, then when you get married and have a kid tell her the truth. Enjoy taking her cash instead. Truly the NEET way.

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Marry a Chinese girl
>they devote their life to their family
>they cook
>they'll have kids
>undying loyalty

cons:
your child will be half chink
you'll be providing for the whole family
she'll pay more attention to her kids once married

It's a tough call man.

It boils down to this. If you want the assurance of a loyal wife and stable life, you want the Chinese girl.

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I do think most japanese/korean girls are adorable.
It's that weird super girly act their society projects that's kind of cute. I'v ebeen watching the silly Kisuna AI channel lately, its funny.
Example:
youtu.be/YO7n_qaQJUA

this but unironically

family.findlaw.com/marriage/top-10-reasons-a-premarital-agreement-may-be-invalid.html

Prenups don't work.

milk truck just pull up

>solipsism
Thanks for the new vocabulary! (I had to look it up)

Her fucked up, battered eyeball looks like a century egg.

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>le 50% of marriages end in divorce!
serial divorcees get married
niggers get married
spics get married
dumb people get married
poor people get married
uneducated people get married
interracial couples get married

if you don't want a high chance of getting divorced, don't be in any of these categories

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I know exactly what you mean. What you observe is social alienation and anomie.
This is also a likely root of the overall problem? Super interesting either way:

>mpcdot.com/forums/topic/155-the-limits-of-human-scale/
>(archive.is/pI8XS)

But keep this close in your mind... Not all people are ruined and you are not alone, there are lots of very nice, good people who feel the same way. We're all out there in the larger world with you, likely in greater numbers than you think, we just need to find each other and team up.

It's imperative that we do just that, honestly, to preserve what exists of prosociality and a non-dysfunctional social & behavioral framework.

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Dont involve the state.
Have a ceremony, print off a certificate. And just have her change her name.
Easy, basically all it is, is how it had always been.
Lots of states have common law marriages anyway. So if you just live with a girl for a while youre "married"
If she gets pissy about not getting a "license" drop her. She wants to marry the state through you anyway.
If she truly loves you, she will be excstatic for the question and ceremony.
>but you cant change your name without the license
BS people change their name all the time
You can go and change it to Last name Trek First name Star. If you want. Costs a little more, and a little more paperwork, but if she honestly loves you, it should not be an issue.

>Stay together, but stay individuals
0/10. Common law marriages dipshit.

It makes gold diggers think twice though.

It was because of Bane wasnt it?

What a fucking traitor you are

Not every state.

Is it because of Bane?

asians are ugly as fuck and I hate their entire culture. I'm considering marrying a latina., they have all of those attributes and they don't look like shapeless children. white women are beyond redemption and I'm a med-mutt anyway

Oh right, Don't move to one of these 8 states then.
United States
Main article: Common-law marriage in the United States

In the United States, common-law marriage can be contracted in eight states and the District of Columbia. Once they meet the requirements of common-law marriage, couples in those true common-law marriages are considered legally married for all purposes and in all circumstances.[32]

Common-law marriage can still be contracted in Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and the District of Columbia.[33][34] Common law marriage may also be valid under military law for purposes of a bigamy prosecution under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.[35]

well, was considering marriage until this thread

>le 56 marrying disgusting creature

Please go on.

Yup, my first (at 19) she was 20 and already married, left him for me. Guess how that turned out
Second was a nig, it was actually great for a while, then she couldnt hide her nig anymore

Who she I get this time?

>Not marrying a woman who makes way more than you do and becoming a stay at home father
Plebs.

Learn how to rig the system to your advantage. I'm planning on using my good looks to woo an average looking nurse into marrying me.

that's the gist of it. what else would you like to know?

I'm trying to do more in regards to outreach and volunteer programs.
I am trying to have a little faith in humanity though I've lost it all in the past.

>marrying an American Asian
I'm talking about a real Chinese, you retard.

Find a woman who likes you more than you like her, then settle with her. If she knows or thinks you can get better looking girls, she will always be faithful to you.

>literally fathering goblins
heh

she will inevitably fuck a real man on the side while you're at home playing housewife

>Common law marriage may also be valid under military law for purposes of a bigamy prosecution under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
So I guess if/when I enlist I should just pretend women dont exist for a couple of years

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JIDF pls go

>Install hidden cameras in your home. Never tell your wife about these. If she neglects the children in any minor way, you can present the footage to a judge if a divorce ever occurs and take custody of your children.
Do you actually think a judge would give a fuck? Are you forgetting that she has a vagina?

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says the guy attempting to justify his gook fetish

>I enlist I should just pretend women dont exist for a couple of years
Your drill sergeant should do a good job convincing you as to why.
I've lived in a navy town, the wives meet up after deployment and go wild, then meet one last time weekend before husband returns for a last romp till next deployment.
Military attracts the worst spouses who just want a sugar daddy who will be out of town most year.

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2D will always be superior
NEVER EVER forget that

Yeah well I'm fucked

Yup, at least dont marry or move in with them

Wait until you're in your early-mid 30's. Dating is a man's market at that point. Women start to realize they can't get by on their looks alone and become desperate to settle down and have a baby with an honest hard-working man before it's too late. That's how you find a good looking one that will never stab you in the back, because they're not 21 and can't just go to da club and find 10 unemployed nogs to run a train on her.

>no true scotsman
a chink is a chink.

An amerimutt is an amerimutt

>You can sign away your right to spousal support if you should end up in divorce court, even if your spouse makes ten times as much money as you do. You can even agree that your spouse gets all of the property and you get all of the bills, if that is what you want to do. But if the agreement is so grossly unfair that one party would face severe financial hardship while the other prospered, the court is unlikely to enforce it. Basically, "unconscionable" contracts are generally found invalid, and premarital agreements are no exception.
So you need to your lawyer to make sure this is not the case. Sounds like this is the getout clause the (((court))) will try to use.

I try to be cute user, but I have flaws as any human. 2D has it easy.

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A lot of loyalty for a hired gun!

>Just find a girl who is already used up

You can't win.

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>people that have been raised in different environments are still the same because of their race

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>because they're not 21 and can't just go to da club and find 10 unemployed nogs to run a train on her (ANYMORE).
Fixed that for you. Do you really want used goods?

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She makes more than I do and I literally don't give a shit about 90% of the stuff we own. If she divorced me, she can have the house and a car, just give me a car and my shit.