This has been a long standing stereotype I've always come across in life. The stereotype that Poland is a poor nation, full of poor people. Personally, I do not know many poles. So I don't really know for sure if they are poor. The Nazi's in WW2 burned down like 50 "Polish Ghettos" or something. In America, the term Polish Ghetto is often heard in reference to this time period. So, the question is... are Polish people poor?
Are Polish people really poor?
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Economics is political asshole.
Poles can make more cleaning toilets in Germany and Britain than they can as doctors or engineers in their own country. So yes, I'd say Poland is poor.
yes dont come here
It's relative. Compared to the West Poland is certainly poor, but we are much better off than 30 years ago when we were sovietbloc-poor.
Look how many of them left Poland and ask this question once again. Yes, Poland is poor. But Poles are a greedy nation, that couldn't stand that someone has it better, so they cheat in many ways, through migration and other ways.
When you travel to Poland you don't see any poverty, because poverty is relative. People are moving to UK and Germany because of better social care and living standards, they want to afford going to vacation 2 times a year etc.
Poles on Jow Forums always speak of their large wealth. But when asked to prove it, they run away. This happened 15 minutes ago on another thread. Why do they LARP?
>This happened 15 minutes ago on another thread
post a link
Poles also work very hard though. I met Poles doing multiple jobs like truck driving and managing to earn £40,000+ a year by working 6-7 days a week and 12 hour days.
>Ukraine
No one deserves that. Not even African countries :(
>Poles
>large wealth
Poland's market economy is only 28 years old. There is no way to accumulate wealth.
>Poles also work very hard though
yes, like slaves on a cotton plant.
Oh, I see now... so Poles are in fact a poor people. Because this Polish guy here claimed he could by my whole family. I said go ahead prove it stupid faggot. send me $1,000 btc. He couldn't prove it.
What a punk.... it's a fucking embarrassment.
Polacks are so poor they have to suck dick just to be broke
I mean wtf do you even export.
>Polacks are so poor they have to suck dick just to be broke
I do it for free.
that's a creative way of e-begging
Wow, so you don't even export anything to the UK yet you are their literal military proxy bitch. No exports to Russia either. Germany and Italy are your main trade partners. This is weird.... your foreign policy is at odds with your own economy.
Talk about a major cuckening at the highest levels of power. All you need to do to free yourselves politically is create a mafia to carry out hits on agents of interference. Then you can open trade relations with Russia....
German and Russian trade relations are in the 100s of billions. Germany has around 4,000 companies operating inside of Russia. The point is.... the UK is holding you hostage, and they don't even fucking respect you. They degrade you like niggers.
Poland will boom soon. Western Europe is committing suicide. Once the middle class of Western Europe realizes they've been fucked they'll "white flight" over to Eastern Europe and bring the wealth with them.
Don't underestimate white flight.
No, it's called proof of status. Also referred to as due diligence is some situations.
GayHans?
Herro :^)
Yes.
Their women will sell you their pussy, arse and mouth for cheaper than chips.
>are Polish people poor?
y
That reminds me of the furry map for Germany.
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dude, you were trying to get bitcoins for rare nazi pitcures, I'd guess that your personal wealth isn't very impressive
Nah, Polish people who are engineers can make money quickly.
;((
>*sigh*
You again?
It's saturday night.
Aren't you supposed to get wasted in a gay bar or something?
Why are we so rich when we no longer dominate any industry?
Poland has the characteristics of typically peripheral country, high unemployment for a long time, economy owned by foreigners, massive emmigration (started already in the 2nd half of 19. century and continues today)
I stay away from the gay community in general. And this weekend I'm stuck visiting relatives in a bumfuck village with literally no cell phone reception :^)
European IQ 1981
Or the UK mosque map
Our export to UK is second biggest after Germany.
>Why are we so rich when we no longer dominate any industry?
Good question, I don't know how Britain makes money desu. Maybe it has to do with some stock exchange things, like service charge, commissions, I don't know
Poland really used to have better education during communism.
Noice :^)
They were economic slaves to a foreign empire not 30 years ago. How wealthy do you expect them to be yet?
It's a place that's obviously rising, though obviously not quite risen yet. They have the right attitude and the right people and enough of them.
The two main obstacles as I see it are their lack of easy access to trading waters, which isn't a problem as long as the EU fantasy continues, and their youthful cultural enthusiasm, which may lead to despotism. If they get too full of Deus Vult and start literally banning speech, that will lead to despotism. It always does.
But they have the right attitude. And when the EU breaks up, they can always annex the Hamburg area for the lebensraum.
OH NONONONO
UK is a shithole in general, no industry, no export, big trade deficit, big budget deficit, nothing is good in UK.
>Our export to UK is second biggest after Germany.
because it is done by german companies you genius
Our trade connections are really german trade connections, with the exception of USA and China to whom Germany exports as well
yes, poland is poor, don't come here.
gdp is a false metric but ppp is even more erroneous
No, it's not done by German companies, idiot. Export means it is prouced by domestic companies, fucking idiot.
>Our trade connections are really german trade connections
No shit sherlock, he thrive because we trade with Europe.
>look at me
>look at me
>We are the Swiss now
What empire?
They're the EU welfare niggers. Without German money they'd be Africa tier.
>UK is a shithole in general, no industry, no export, big trade deficit, big budget deficit, nothing is good in UK.
Except being top3 financial center in the world and their people being rich as hell, while Poorland is an artifical country which is a slave to Western capitalism
>European IQ 2012
So, Poland has lost 9 IQ points within 31 years. Between 1981 and 2012...
This has a factor on the national GDP of Poland. I am sure billions in potential profits were lost due to the dropping IQ.
>Export means it is prouced by domestic companies, fucking idiot.
which are owned by the Germans you moron. Differentiate between something that is nationally owned and something that is owned by foreigners only it has outposts here. 70% of export from Poland is created by foreign companies
I am bored. Here's a redpill on slavs.
>taking IQ in 1981 estimates serious
russia is dying. has no future. no sense to build economic ties with them when they'll be gone in 20 years
>Except being top3 financial center in the world
Being money laundering machine is not an achievment. Look at UK outside London, shithole.
>while Poorland is an artifical country which is a slave to Western capitalism
Oh I see a Razem party voter, nice to meetyou Bolshevick.
It used to be like that. Poland is certainly going to surpass Italy and Spain if it has not already done so.
In 2018, Poland is a Western European country. The only argument is that Poland has low wages, but they are a highly developed country and prices are low. They are at least as developed as Germany or Denmark with massive growths, especially in IT and other industries.
>In 2018, Poland is a Western European country
You sure about that, Sven?
I'm the last person to bash Poland, but your swedish delusions and tendency to follow whatever the fuck you're told is quite incredible.
Nice argument.
>Being money laundering machine is not an achievment
and then you call me a bolshevik
You're yet another pathetic polack here, belittling others' real achievements, because you know they're correct when they laugh at you
The thing is, Ireland is the richest country in Europe right now (see image). Bboth Ireland and Poland share the same average IQ. What factors are in play that make Ireland so much more wealthy than Poland?
The Irish American diaspora is very successful and powerful inside the United States. I'm not sure if that success transfers into Ireland in an impactful way.
Polands economy is clearly being held back. The same can be said for Ukraine if not 10x more the case.
>Look at UK outside London, shithole.
It’s actually the opposite.
>They are at least as developed as Germany
are you that polish diaspora idiot?
come on shlomo, if you hate poland so much why don't you move to israel or germany?
You didn't post an argument, so I don't need to provide one against it.
WTF Bolshevik,
>belittling others' real achievements
Once again that is not an achievement.
>because you know they're correct when they laugh at you
They are not.
Go voting for Razem and don't forget to suck a dick of your boyfriend.
>Are Eastern European people really poor?
Yes. Move along.
don't try to convince him, he's just another stubborn, envious of others, petty and pathetic polack desperately trying to defend his self esteem
polacks are simply envious of Western Europeans and what envious people do is to often belittle others so that they seem on par with their own national misery
UK outside London is poorer than East Germany.
UK is the Poland of Europe.
Ireland is a very unique case in world economy. A VAST, vast amount of its GDP comes from two simple things:
English is the native language and it's not in the UK. This allows it a very unique position to not only be precisely next to the UK, but also in Europe, but also fairly independent of it and also speaking the world language. You have to remember it's also a country of 7 million population, so it doesn't need so much to create a prosperous economy - just the companies that go there and those that start because of those simple facts, the English and position in the EU and next to the UK, those are enough.
There are no poor people in the west. Shelter, food, water, cloths and warmth are taken for granted. What sets a rich country apart from a regular country in the west is the ability to buy luxuries and the state of infrastructure.
Ireland is a very wealthy country by most standards but our weather is shit and our infrastructure will take 100 years to make good. I can afford luxury consumer goods on an average Irish wage.
Opening trade relations with Russia is the future for Europe. Always has been, at least for the past 500 years. A simple thing called resources, faggot.
because I'm a better person than 90% of dumb polish plebs here? Why would Poland lose such needed person?
>if you hate poland so much
stating truth is not hate sebek
>don't try to convince him, he's just another stubborn, envious of others, petty and pathetic polack desperately trying to defend his self esteem
I'm not envious, you're just a naturally born rertard and I love to mock you.
>polacks are simply envious of Western Europeans and what envious people do is to often belittle others so that they seem on par with their own national misery
That's true, but that doesn't apply to me. Move along cocksucker with your ""proves"" of British superiority.
Quite a lot of people in the Czech republic unironically have a higher standard of life than Germany.
Poland is already in Europe, retard
It's a meme as far as I am concerned, in the same vein as "Fuck off we're full." This one is just "Stay out, we're poor".
You can go to Krakow and spend $40/night on a hotel room that's better than your house. Their city centers look better than 95% of cities in the USA and are clean and safe. For the price of a dinner for two in downtown NYC, you could buy yourself and ten Polish randoms enough shots to get everyone slagged at virtually any bar. There's also hiking, nature trips, and museums in pretty much every direction. It's like someone took North Carolina, made it cheap, and then turned it into a country.
Sorry that sounds a bit off topic but I am trying to establish context. I think Poland is a regular western country doing about average and Ireland's current wealth is transient. The same as the UK or the US or anywhere else in the west.
This is a lie.
Yeah yeah, quit fighting and answer me this.
Are polish women hot?
Maybe Prague only.
If Poland is not in Europe then Germany is not in Europe too.
Ye, in Prague, but that's a different story. The rest are poor rats.
No.
yes
>northern Europe.
Being the poorest in northern Europe is an enviable position for almost the entire planet.
Germany IS Europe.
>Polish education
Poland is in asian, fag.
>That's true, but that doesn't apply to me