As a foreigner, I have often wondered about the present state of affairs in Great Britain, and the Commonwealth at large. Due to our Revolution, we, of America, have split from the Commonwealth and Empire at an early phase, and as a result, we are even further removed from notions of Britishness than the Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, and others. What is life like in Britain, nowadays, for you, especially? Is the economy stable, or looking dire? Furthermore, is it considered very weird to be interested in British history and particularly patriotic about your country? Are most current Britons apathetic about their history and culture, if not the more instant-gratifactory nature of the government's economic policies? Also, how are observant Christians usually treated, are there decent non-Church of England and non-Roman Catholic alternatives? Do most British even profess some kind of Christianity, anymore, even in a loose, more cultural sense, as many young Americans still do?
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Didn't read lol
Don't be rude.
I know I may sound as if I've written the Declaration of Independence, but as a hobby, I have studied much of 18th century American and British history.
The way you've written this makes it seem artificial
We're not that different, none of us Anglos are. I only learnt a few days ago the the American national anthem is a repurposed version of "To Anacreon in Heaven".
We're all close allies but could do a lot more to have a unified vocal voice on the world stage (Aus, NZ, Can, US, UK)
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Big cock and Indian don't belong in the same sentence brother.
Hedonism does seem more rampant than in America, from reading about British life online. The country folks from both countries are probably still quite restrained, compared to those that live in cities and suburbs.
>What is life like in Britain, nowadays, for you, especially?
Quality of life is decent for a human being on Earth. Obviously, we are a developed country. We have free healthcare (NHS), meaning that we don't have the stress that Americans have on health insurance. We many have other problems that you do not have, however.
> Is the economy stable, or looking dire?
Complicated. We are growing in GDP (slowly) but wages are stagnant. The rest of western Europe and North America are booming but we are pretty slow; a combination of low productivity and market uncertainty around Brexit. Most people expect Brexit to generate a recession; in reality, it looks like we will just grow more slowly.
>Furthermore, is it considered very weird to be interested in British history and particularly patriotic about your country?
*Shrugs* We are not as patriotic as Americans. WW1 planted the seeds of doubt about patriotism in us. So many young men died for nothing. However, if you speak to a lot of Conservative voters you will find them quite patriotic. I think for young people a patriotic love of our history would be considered nerdy.
>Are most current Britons apathetic about their history and culture
Most working class Britons are not very intelligent and don't care about anything except sport, sex and drinking. Most middle-class people in London are champagne socialist wankers. London is VERY different to the rest of the UK. Conservative people in rural England are still very proud. Protestants in Ulster obviously love the history of Britain, King Bill and all that.
>Also, how are observant Christians usually treated, are there decent non-Church of England and non-Roman Catholic alternatives?
Depends really. Most young white people are very secular. I am a Baptist Christian (convert) and I have met a few church-going Christians at uni.
I would welcome Britain to rule us if it meant free immigration between the commonwealth countries and the kingdom.
Yeah there's alternatives to the English Church of Catholicism and The Roman Catholic Church. There's Baptists churches, The Free Church of Scotland.
You're better off just reading the Bible yourself or looking for a more old school small church though. All the ones mentioned are full of faggots and ordained women. Well the RC Church doesn't have women, has cryptofags though.
I wouldn't mind an Anglosphere economic agreement, as long as it strictly keeps to trade pacts, and does not morph into another European Union. I cannot say if it's an ideal, but the idea itself seems acceptable.
> Do most British even profess some kind of Christianity, anymore, even in a loose, more cultural sense, as many young Americans still do?
No. Cultural Christianity is dead amongst the youth. This is a pattern across Western Europe; Christian identity does not stick. You either believe Christ rose from the dead (as I do) or you are non-religious (de facto atheist).
Tbh I think this is kinda good. Back in the day a lot of people who didn't really care about the gospel went to Church out social pressure. I met an American pastor in the town where I live who said that, although England was on average more godless, he liked that he knew that everyone in his missionary Church in England was a true hardcore believer. Nobody was there because of a convention.
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I see pretty much the same social & economic problems here as I read about over your side of the pond - partly why I lurk here so much - although UK is considerably more atheistic & irreligous than the US & has been for decades. The only growing religion is the religion of peace(ful suicide terrorists). The economy is supposedly going OK but nobody is feeling it, student debt & unaffordable housing for the younger generation, the worst forms of strident identity politics & relentless effort to demonise, blacken ( in both senses of the word) & denigrate our white ethnic heritage & historic greatness - pulping our real history into nauseating multi-culti disneyfied pap or anti-white propaganda
I don't see how it's better, the Churches here still have the LGBT crowd and women changing the religion and women being ordained and also twisting things. Just so they turn Christianity into something that makes them feel good about being degenerates while ruining for anyone else that's there as a Christian.
they can*
ruining it*
the white commonwealth I assume you mean ?
>Hedonism does seem more rampant than in America
Unlike in America, our working classes are very non-religious. Also, there is a general stupidity and lack of shame amongst the working classes. I think part of it is oddly English politeness; nobody wants to be rude and tell women that they look hideous, immodest and disgusting.
Liberal/ left wing Middle-class people can be bad these days in different ways. They have contempt for patriotism, masculinity and sports as racist and part of the dumb working class English white culture.
I don't know much about the upper classes, but since the 80s they've mainly been concerned with protecting neoliberal economics and selling off industry.
I don't feel much hope for my country.
>I don't see how it's better, the Churches here still have the LGBT crowd and women changing the religion and women being ordained and also twisting things. Just so they turn Christianity into something that makes them feel good about being degenerates while ruining for anyone else that's there as a Christian.
Not in my church. I am a Baptist. Also, the Churches that are in MASSIVE decline are actually liberal protestants. The ones that are growing are hardcore evangelical protestants.
Thank you for your views. I am especially interested in the aspects of spiritual life in Britain, so I commend you for your point. I would also be described by most as a Baptist, although I tend to favor no description other than Christian, even though I eventually just clarify which branch I am closest to, so people may understand my views. I believe the most orthodox approach to Christianity lies within sticking to the New Testament scriptures, and the Old Testament, where applicable; Christ is the fulfillment of the Laws of Moses and the other Tanakh books, after all. I am not interested in attending a church where too much emphasis is placed on Earthly traditions and rituals. I relate more to the underground, persecuted Christian lifestyles of the early Christians, and those at present rampantly persecuted throughout the world. When it comes to medieval European Christian groups, I identify closely with the Waldensians and Lollards, considered heresies by the Roman Catholic Church, and many would say, proto-Protestants.
Thank you for your insights. It does seem as though if I were living in Britain, I would be better off just reading the Bible at home, with the lack of orthodoxy in those churches. I suppose the experience would be akin to being a self-made monk or hermit, although fi I knew of other believers in the area, I would like to invite them over for private scriptural studies. Have you ever read about that couple who built a small chapel in their backyard? What has become of them, do they still have it, or have they become threatened by legal problems? A small chapel would be appealing for me, if I could afford one.
I've suspected that to be the case, for years. The trend looks like it will only continue. Lukewarm Christianity, it would appear, is manifesting itself increasingly as though it's going to just stop pretending, before long.
Did you know America is going to join the commonwealth very soon?
Go google it.
The governor of some southern state is leading the charge for America to join.
So soon pic.
Churchill always wanted America to join the commonwealth
what the absolute fuck is this post
it's like you think we entered another dimension when we became independent and have had zero contact since then, and you've only just managed to scrawl out a letter to send through to their dimension asking how King George III is and if pewter is still in vogue
Australian here. All my life i grew up in country towns. And let me tell you we fucking hate Britain. Being called a pom is worse then being called a cunt. However this just my intermediate circle. For some reason some generations love the royals. the media bombards with royals all the fucking time.
>We're not that different
Correct. All anglos are scum. You're the cause of the migrant crisis and destabilizing the regions they come from. Enjoy your caliphate.
You've got a good Church then, my old man goes to a Baptist Church. He was asked to give a prayer iirc, and talked about how the Church needs to find it's way again, for the women to know their place, and to distance itself from degeneracy. A homosexual then proceeds to get up, cause a scene, then storm out and slam the door lol.
what is pom in your context? I've not a clue here
wow, what a worthless endeavor
you can tell me what shoes my ancestors who were actually there were wearing, but you cannot tell me how electricity was discovered, or any other phenomenally important scientific history (most of its british btw)
typical fallacious american fuck
A Pom is a derogatory term for British people in Australia.
Similar to how you'd call a Brit a Limey.
mate,
Christianity was fucking slaughtered by norwegian black metal
holy fucking shit
It’s a leftist hellhole
thanks
although i wouldn't use limey either, perhaps this is of a more regional dialect
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>Cultural degradation has continued in the UK
>Immigration.....has pretty much intensified massive displacement of the working and middle class....Look at East London, barely any cockneys left...only ones left are like 80 or 90 and are too old to move away.
>Yes, it is weird to be patriotic, or have some sort rose tinted view of the British History. If you have an interest in it...you have to be careful with what you say and you can't openly be patriotic or you'd be seen as a fascist right winger. Other people can celebrate their own cultures and stuff...but not Britons.
This has been going on for about the last 21 years, the moment the Labour Party took control of the government, it was the end for the Britain.
>Its all fluff, we rely heavily on the global economy and we need some serious structural reform in our economy and in the education system if we are going to be able to bitch slap our competitors abroad.
Some areas of the economy need better regulation and enforcement, others need a substantial freeing up.
>Observant Christians are considered complete and utter weirdos, absolutely detested. That goes for the Evangelicals too. No, they don't even profess it as some sort cultural heritage, they want nothing to do with christianity.
No decent alternatives to CoE or RC...maybe Methodist and Quakers (Society of Friends) is ok, and Lutherans and Orthodox are growing.
The jewish rot is deep in the UK, but they are like unseen masters, they aren't as arrogant or as public as American Jews.
jews have been persecuted in the UK, absolutely butchered in the past. They are just hiding in the shadows....pulling strings and waiting.
pic is of the Board of Deputies of British Jews founded in 1760.
alexander graham bell,
henry ford
jonas salk
wright brothers
>only been around since 1776
gtfo
>alexander graham bell
Was Scottish, dummy, and the only American in that list who actually did anything new is a Jew.
Others won but decided to stay British subjects, to the Crown. You're country spilt for entitlements. You're the country of thee entitled world over, same as Australians/Canadians/Israelis/and Saudis, who show little compassion or direction to natives/nomads they have conquered, Britons heart is different, not entirely stupid. Before the web, Briton was healing and becoming decent {political skulduggery many did not question} there was more harmony amongst the varying cultures {blacks have always been targets lol}, but the last so many years {arabs/muzzies/islam}, things have turned proper sour since.
Family disconnects, corrupt government, racial bias's, and lack of will or passion {looks like old Europe} shabby and rotten to the core. Those that truly 'benefit' are those that screw everyone else. Britons, muh own, history is beautiful and horrifying and the same time, family rulz, largest most deadliest family sits at the top. SAME as always since warring party began to control thee Isles for the bounty {mining lies abound}.
People here are mainly trapped in ancient time warp, sticks to the land and enjoys the basics of life's rewards {hence shabby state bar london and around universities distributed around the country} students get looked after but now they charge stupid rates for education limiting the up coming young from being a success {life's pressure 50S style}. Heroes in our history are fucked over more than likely because that's just the way Briton is. Barbarous and savage {even in a suit/coat of armour}. Briton was a police state and had many police terrorising citizens years ago {NO CHARGES WERE BROUGHT TO GUILTY PARTIES} crime escalated and established the com-camera-links to HQ services, so that they can monitor instead of patrolling as much {NO NEED IF YOU CAN SEE ITS NOT ESCALATING TO~/RAPE/MURDER/TERROR RELATED/ORDERSORDERS}. Then web starts all the terror deep state starts the terror rebellion resists and everything goes to shit.
>Rant
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I watch a lot of Townsends videos. That may have much to do with it.
Do Australians really say, "Hey, look at that Porn over there," outside the context of pornography, referring to British people? How humiliating. Where did this come from?
>Present state of affairs
>What is life like in Britain, nowadays, for you, especially?
For me, Life is good. I'm a struggling small-business owner, but I work in a bar to pay the rent. I rent a 3 bed Georgian house for £625 a month. Electricity, gas, internet = £100 a month. We have great supemarkets offering high-quality fresh produce at very reasonable prices.
>Is the economy stable, or looking dire?
I think it's stable enough.
>is it considered very weird to be interested in British history and particularly patriotic about your country, etc?
Yes, it is; normies don't give a crap about it. and I think that's an enormous problem. In their defence, we have no constitution. Our government is evil, Many people wrongly conflate patriotism with love of the government.
>Also, how are observant Christians usually treated, are there decent non-Church of England and non-Roman Catholic alternatives? Do most British even profess some kind of Christianity, anymore, even in a loose, more cultural sense, as many young Americans still do?
Surprisingly, lots of people still do consider themselves catholic/Christian etc. But almost all of them will feel embarrassed about it, as though it's not "cool". Personally, I'm Roman Catholic.
>Surprisingly, lots of people still do consider themselves catholic/Christian etc. But almost all of them will feel embarrassed about it, as though it's not "cool". Personally, I'm Roman Catholic.
That's what happens when it's the only religion in the country that is openly mocked, berated, and forced by the state to morph into an LGBT support group.
Your country was good while it lasted. It won't be much longer though
I really enjoy reading about old time Britain, and I think a modern vacation/holiday to go there now would be lost on me. I probably wouldn't recognize it, for all that my preconceived notions and expectations are worth. I would rather visit some small town in Lancashire than London, at this point, as that is where most of English roots are derived.
So, to be openly patriotic in Britain now, is to be seen as a Fascist? That is ignorant of the history of Fascism, and its Italian associations.
From what I'm gathering, cultural Christianity in Britain at this point mainly consists of Christmas, Easter, and possibly Wedding functions at a church, as well as funerals. Are baptisms still common, even for the secularized? Is it a thing normal babies/children do, according to the traditions of the Church of England?
>if you speak to a lot of Conservative voters you will find them quite patriotic
It's a meme civic patriotism