Imagine my shock

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If you aren't working you don't deserve anything unless you're a stay at home mom who has a husband.

Will never work, just look at native Americans, a lot of them have a system similar to UBI through their tribe and they're all lazy drunks.

SHUT THE FUCK UP RLM THREAD GO

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GTFO THIS IS RLM OFF TOPIC

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>it's just supplementary and people will still work!
>my free $ isn't enough
End it

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Dude. No RLM, no post.

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It's a bit of a conundrum. With the rise of automation and exponentially growing populations how are people going to have jobs to support themselves. It seems like we're in a transitionary period of time where our economic systems will be called into question, yet a new one that works isn't really viable yet.

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An astounding lack of information and no links? How did it fall flat? What happened? Where is the data?

Fully automated luxury gay space communism is the way. If only the rest of you retards could catch up.

Jay is a gigantic cuck and a slimey motherfucker. He loves those fucking Disney Marvel movies. He’s a fucking faggot. Everyone else is decent

WHERE'S THE RLM FAGGOT?

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Get fucked, cuck.

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Now is not the time for gifs of Susan

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Insightful

>daily reminder

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Deep pull. Nice.

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Letting in millions of low IQ unskilled labour was probably a bad idea in retrospect.

Thanks. Preesh.
Here's a rare Jack for you.

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t. boomer neo-kike
Why is anyone going to need a full time job once automation reduces the cost of living to nearly zero? You'll be able to survive for a indefinitely by working as a greeter at Walmart for 2 hours a week. Those who are calling for UBI are scheming profiteers worried that the value of their stock portfolio will go down if they drop the price on the goods they sell. There is no reason to believe that the cost of living wont reduce at a rate equal to the average persons ability to make money.

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i knew it was a jewish trick

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>560€ for working 8 hours a day five times a week four weeks a month
>3,5€ an hour
fucking FUCK my shit up that won't buy you TWO LITERS OF MILK. fucking FUCK this shitty ass country i'm doing whatever Varg is doing and becoming self-sufficient once I have enough money saved up.

>He thinks that's how the free market works
Doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are, you can always count on a leaf to make the most retarded posts imaginable.

Mastermind.

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>Imagine my source
I found the source, and the title is completely misleading. The trials didn't "fall flat". The government just refused to expand the program when the people running it wanted to. They are instead going to look into other ways of Social-Assistance.

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Jesus Christ, I’ve never seen him with that much hair. He looks much better bald. My boy Rich is the next one to shave it all off. Can’t have that gay ass Costanza hairdo going on later in life

the one that is a retard its you
this experiment proves nothing
we have been living in the "mouse utopia" for a while and everything its relatively fine

fuck off with your garbage memes and try to contribute for once, stupid fucking braindead sack of lard and GMO

youtube.com/watch?v=CJP8J84vzTA
You're welcome.

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this!
I hate lazy fucks so much...

What? You thought white people were going to get free shit---wait, not even that---the fruits of the labour of their ancestors that THEY FUCKING EARNED?

Fuck that. Not if the globalists have anything to do with it. Only niggers get paid to do nothing. You'll work till a robot can do anything you can do. Then you'll be gassed.

gfy and diaf

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This is not a bait thread, this is an RLM thread. Stop responding to shills. Stop feeding the shills. Start RLMing

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>everything is relatively fine

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Wouldn't a flat increase in money across the board have no effect on wealth in the long run?

>everything is RLM

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>go to work!
>600k-1m unemployed
>60k open positions for jobs
don't talk shit if you don't know what you're talking about
Finland is fucked.

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I don't swallow the UBI pill but the 'experiments' are doing it wrong.

UBI the idea is everybody gets money, not just unemployed. You also get enough to pay rent, and eat/transport, which is the opposite of welfare, social security and food stamps or other schemes which pay fuck all and cost billions to operate. I'm pretty sure 560 euros a month in Finland is fuck all. The idea is that with a basic income, you can choose to work if you want. So far all the schemes punish those who work by subtracting it making it just yet another welfare scheme and not UBI. So guess what, nobody declares any extra income because they'll just get punished so people claim nobody works while on UBI. So far every experiment is just handing money to the worst in society and then declaring it a failure. Give it to graduate students in universities, not lazy bums already on the dole, see what happens.

maybe as individuals you are breaking down
but society hasnt collapsed

we arent mouses driven by our instints

Kek, shit, I didn’t know Jack had his own channel. I know him and Rich have like a video game review channel thing though. Also, that video with Rich in the thumbnail is fucking gold

Wouldn't a flat increase in RLM across the board have no effect on Tums in the long run?

WRONG.

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Those of us who don't fit in the coming economy need to realize it's our responsibility to quietly die and not interrupt the lives of functioning human beings

This.

>I'm pretty sure 560 euros a month in Finland is fuck all
you can't live with that wage unless you do something else at the side or get extra gibs from the government.
going homeless is a no-go as the winter WILL kill you.

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oh and I believe that 560 gets taxed

Where's the money coming from though?

This entire thread is RLM and fake accounts having a fake conversation to further interests that aren't RLM and are therefore invalid.

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Oh look, an amerimutt that thinks the crony capitalism of his monopolist's utopia is a perfect representation of capitalism. Why do I get the feeling that you don't even know what the word free market means? I bet you love the idea of being charged 1200$ for an apple cellphone, don't you? I mean, why would anyone buy a similar (or arguably better) product such as google's android for a quarter of the price? Google is obviously cheating the free market by offering something for less thanks to innovations in manufacturing technology... "The price should only ever go up, because I love the taste of my local rabbi's cock" - t. amerimutt

So it turned out like that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when they gave out Paddybucks to poor people?

Some direct sales, some ad revenue, their actual work as film producers, and Patreon.

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The mouse utopia was disprovern

If Finland is anything close to Sweden in regards to costs then 560 will barely cover rent for one month.

Somebody else post RLM I gotta shit.

yes we're close
and you're right, it barely covers rent for one month, depends on where you live, though
you won't be eating much and better get used to having no internet or a phone

>Goverment gives you free money then takes some back
>??????????????

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>not posting the articles conclusion
>not posting an archive link

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So once again, they did the exact opposite of UBI which is a welfare scheme. Where I live it's about $900 minimum for rent per month, and the same amount for various other expenses. So ~$2k/month would be a bare minimum basic income. Of course nobody would just live off that though and choose to work, and that's where UBI is different as you can keep your work wages and have the freedom to be unemployed for a while between jobs, sucking all the control that bosses have over people when they no longer 'need' to be employed, now it's a want to be employed. This is what UBI originally shills for not a welfare 2.0 scheme.

Of course none of us can do this anyway as our countries let in hundreds of thousands of migrants yearly

Finland doesn't even have any niggers, and it still failed?

really activates my almonds too

Nigga you bedda bring da phone witchu!

I don't think the prices should go up, but here we are. In a perfect world, we'd have democratic socialism and everything would be dandy. We don't live in that perfect world, though. You're like a communist whose only argument is "real communism hasn't been tried before." Go back to your wife's bull and learn how to format your fucking posts, leaf.

how much are they going to need wal-mart greeters when you can order something from amazon and have a drone deliver it in half an hour

UBI claims the money comes primarily from savings of dismantling the welfare state, which costs trillions. No more old age security/pensions/welfare police or massive govt agencies to administer it all. Sales and income tax collects the rest.

Thanks

UBI's entire purpose is to take the middle class to pay for the lower classes salary. Thast is the entire reason why libertarians support it.

Normally businesses have to providd wages for people to live on or they will have a dead workforce. Its a sort of biological minimum wage. But with UBI salaries can fall incredibly low with no floor besides 0 dollars an hour.

UBI is a tool to supress wages and in that context it works perfectly.

The problems of automization and falling rate of peofit hare going to be huge explosive issues for capitalism but it wont be solved with UBI.

> I'm pretty sure 560 euros a month in Finland is fuck all.
That's perfectly enough for monthly expenses for food there.

It was planned to do that.
Cheapskates did not want it to succeed and next we will proly get socialist/social democrat goverment.

>26 U.S. Code § 61 - Gross income defined
>(a) General definitionExcept as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived

Income means income. Theoretically if you own your home you have "imputed" income, just by living there you are "paying yourself" rent.

I find that implausible.

not many
but we do have a shit ton of boomers who basically decide to vote for whatever lets them keep their fucking ridiculous pensions
the average pension is x4 the basic income tested here, and they fucking complain about it

So basicly it's not just giving money. It's giving you freedom over your own life. But the government doesn't want that. They need to control you.

You can't automate energy.

That sounds like it's just shifting how they distribute the money

You just can't give money away for no reason or for not doing work, there is no incentive.

I didnt realize we had so much in common