Shah of Iran

I see that a lot of people are ass kissers of the Iranian regime solely because they want to annihilate israel and because they are on Assad and Putin's side. But why was the Shah bad? wouldn't the middle east be better with him? what went wrong and when?

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>Makes straw man argument that Jow Forums is "ass kissers" to Iran.
>makes a "israel first" post.
I don't give a damn about either Iran or Israel, as long as they don't fuck with the USA.
Try to be an American or get your ass to Israel.

Iran fucked up by deciding to exist right in the middle of the entire known world at the time. They have been surrounded by enemies since their inception and never had a chance. Mongols to the east, dravidians to the south, arabs to the west, euros and slavs to the north, and jews within.
F.

Cianiggers

he was a murderous dictator. look up Black Friday and SAVAK

western puppet used to spread liberalism

He literally did nothing wrong.

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It's a complex situation the people of Iran didn't wanted the western progressive agenda cause it included economical and cultural subordination.

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My grandfather was head of secret police under the shah. He's been dead since 1980 and he still gets an annual raise and pension from the government. Ask me stuff, or don't...I don't really care.

are you serious or trolling

I want to know what you think of the current situation in Iran.

>murderous dictator

lmao, grade school ethics

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>what went wrong and when?
Israel pushed the US to remove the Shar ro replace him with some USrael controlled Dictator (so they hoped).

Irans not as bad as the media portrays its better than the west right now. The only real solution for the middle east would be the destruction of the state and allow things to become what they were during the Islamic caliphate. Which would basically mean an anarchist revolution. Read up on the caliphates history it seemed like the best form of community governance honestly. Its something Ted Kaczynksi or Mikhail Bakunin woulda dreamed up. It also might be why a lot of the nazis ended up escaping to the mid east and converting to islam.

The Shah was (((their))) guy.

He murdered political figures and islamists, not the general population. Black friday was at the end of his reign during the revolution. Eat shit nigger

Super serial. Grandpa did some bad stuff to dissidents. Not sure if he was the "head" but that's what all my family told me so I'm sticking with it
I haven't been keeping up since about two months ago. My mom keeps saying things are going to change and they're about to hang the imams in the street but I kept telling her nothing ever changes, so far I've been right

theres a reason the people overthrew him just like batista in cuba

Or was he?

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>puppet of amerifats

also hey the_donald

Because the CIA wanted it so?

You should check out what just happened in Armenia
Change can happen quickly when help is given.
I appreciate your perspective though, for some reason I can't figure out which side is 'good'.

He was a bloody dictator, that's what's wrong with him.
But people who support Assad, if they were intellectually consistent, would support the Shah over the Mullahs.

>bloody dictator
>literally left the country and did not decide to unleash the army on the population
He might have been a dictator but he certainly is not on par with Saddam, Gaddafi or Assad. He actually told the Iranian people they had a right to rebel.

He was a corrupt bastard who slaughtered people and sold out to western values.

...that's a good point. I hate to admit it. He did have a nasty secret police, and killed many people and imprisoned even more.
(And when the Mullahs took over, they executed a lot of the people he imprisoned who weren't religious fundamentalists.)

Whichever doesn't follow Israel's will.

>corrupt
>helped overthrow Mossadegh
>was an American puppet
>sucked Zionist cock
>tried to do westernization rapidly without any care

Islamic regime in Iran should be toned down, but the Shah was an absolute CIA nigger piece of shit.

Israel/Jews can play all sides at once, that's their strength.

Was he more corrupt than the current regime? No. Also he definitely cared more about the country than the current regime. Anyway I'm pro national front and so is my family. The Shah banned the national front. But let's be honest the Shah is way better than the current regime.

All of these are partially true.

Western backed puppet, who kept the islamofucks in line and allowed western style freedoms as long as you didn't fuck with him or the regime.

I'm not exactly sure why (or how) the islamists overthrew him, but afterwards MILLIONS of rich, intelligent, and moderate Persians left Iran never to return. Considering that the Ayatollah spent so much time in (((Britain))), I sometimes think it was to fuck Iran with sanctions so Saudi Arabia could make more money on expensive oil.

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>Was he more corrupt than the current regime
Yes, he did not even try to hide it. He threw lavish parties while people starved in the villages.

Well, the current regime in Iran was probably one of the most expensive of Israel's mistakes I'd say.

In my opinion the Shah was too soft. Khamenei, Rasanjani and the rest were all in SAVAK prisons and released. The Shah hat the opportunity to assassinate Khomeini a dozen times but he refused and decided to exile him to Iraq. Saddam told the Shah that he could take care of Khomeini, the Shah refused again and told Saddam to deport Khomeini to France.

Khomeini was his superior in every conceivable way.

What he represented to the Iranian people was liberation from corruption and foreign domination. Shah was a puppet who tried and destroy the traditional way of life in Iran.

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Do you mean with regards to the situation in Syria?
I'm not convinced that the Iran/Israel opposition isn't a controlled show in order to tear up the region.
Israel needs an enemy in order to do what they do.

Soft or controlled?

>literally siding with a spineless CIA nigger
Read the CIA docs on the 1953 Iran coup.
This faggot was literally bribed with a mink coat for his sister.
(not kidding, the cia docs are a really good read, very well written)

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No the worse mistake was not finishing the country off during the Iran Iraq war. 90% of Jow Forums is too young to even be alive during that war. It was the true meme war
>Only war with ICBM's launched at civilian centers
>Only confirmed instance in history of not one but multiple dogfights using attack helicopters

Western Zionist puppet that murdered off political dissent, the current regime being the reaction to this

sakene kodom shahri?

>Was he more corrupt than the current regime
Yes

The Mullahs throw parties just like that, buy you can't see. They have BILLIONS of dollars stolen from YOU the people.

Of course with that flag (and no proxy) it's obvious you are a government fuck. One of the fanatical retards who DIDN'T leave Persia, after the revolution. Don't you have some couples to arrest for holding hands?

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You JIDF fucks are so blatant it isn't even funny

Qajars were better.

>Yes, he did not even try to hide it
Kek, last time I checked, the current regime has a fucking oil rig go missing. It is one thing to be a corrupted dicator, it is another to sell an entire fucking oil rig, and tell your people you don't know where the fuck it went. Take that mullah's cock out of your ass nigger. And fuck your poor villages under the shah, he was modernizing the country. If you shitslamic fucks didn't overthrow him, the villages today would be far better off than they are under the current regime. You also wouldn't have the highest brain drain in the entire world.

You fucking low IQ inbred seem to think that pointing out how the remote villages in Iran are better off today in 2018 than back in the 70s doesn't mean jack shit. If you can prove to me that they are actually better off in 2018 under the mullah regime than they would of been in 2018 if the shah wasn't overthrown would be a different thing.

Last time I checked, your remote villages are still starving, to the point where not even 6 months ago they went into the streets and chanting death to the islamic republic.

My family is from the Arak region, Farahan to be exact. I was told the children in schools would get free meals and milk, free uniforms, free membership of the boyscouts. Furthermore the Sepah e Danesh went out to rural areas to educate illiterate people and their children. The Sepah e Danesh was also active in providing healthcare for people in rural areas. The Shah was far from perfect but he was a patriot.

I mean the kike is right though, they do have billions of dollars. Obama is the one who handed it to them

shah was cool guy.

These are Khomeini's grandchildren lol

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Sounds like the typical gibs for votes.
It's a touching story but not proof of anything.

He and Saddat were best buddies

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>Last time I checked, your remote villages are still starving, to the point where not even 6 months ago they went into the streets and chanting death to the islamic republic.

No, some retards got butthurt at high food prices and then the Students decide to co-copt it by demanding another Green Revolution and begging for Americans to make Iran their bitch again while minorities chimped out that they wanted to have special snowflake rights.

He sent girls to school and BTFO the ayatollah cunts but lost out in the end. Also don't believe the left-wing narrative bullshit we "installed" him, he was already the King when Mossadegh tried to take control of the army in a rigged election.We just helped him get back on the throne after a brief exile.

>All these brainlet posts

The world would be a much better place if the CIA and a little faggot by the name of Kermit Roosevelt hadn’t facilitated his deposition following the Persian decision to nationalize their oil.

Ahmadinejad did the same shit famalam. The poor dirt farmer vote is the only vote the establishment gets before they start rigging the vote

Don't take my word for it, look up the white revolution. The Shah basically ended feudalism in Iran by redistribution of land to poor farmers.

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It could be as you say, but even though we both know that jews are quite mischievous with their folly, I doubt it is the case. Iran poses a serious threat to Israel, though they are not keen on admitting it.
The Syria situation is just business, I'm not that sure on their intentions regarding Greater Israel, even though they would dream with that they have nor the support, manpower and budget (without the US bankrolling them ofc) to take on such a task.
The outlook, thankfully, isn't good for them as of today, their leash on other world leaders is slowly softening so it's a matter of time.
As you say, I'm too young for that one, I'll do my research though.

Being said that, even though I'm not that friendly towards muslims, Shiites are okay in my book and I have no particular reason to hate them, as long as they don't, somehow, become imperialist I'd argue they have a right for their homeland.
Though as soon as this charade is over I'd like for Hezbollah to cease their illegal activities in South America, I just hope they aren't in the drug biz but it's likely they are.

The Shah was a fancy fellow but it seems that his time in the western world didn't gave him enough perspective regarding certain issues, he would be alive if he had paid attention.

True, Mossasegh was better. But I prefer the Shah over the Islamic Republic.

>some retards got butthurt at high food
Way to oversimplify it

He was overthrown by Islamic fundamentals. We tried to support him but somebody forgot that helicopters don't fly in a sandstorm and we lost a company of Delta Force.

I'll look into it

Well if my theory is correct then greater Israel would be very simple to achieve because it would just require flipping the shia crescent over to their control.
This would require Russia's consent which is why they hate Putin so much I think.

Carter dropped the Shah like a brick. The US was ready to accept the new Iranian government. Basically we saw the same in Egypt with Mubarak.

The Shah could be a cunt too but modernizing his nation was his foremost priority, Mossadegh was interested in his own power and tried to make himself dictator by attempting to seize control of the army and exiling the Shah's sister. There are other brazen actions he took too which are too long to list but he directly challenged the Shah's authority and lost, the coup was of his own making.

Interesting, well, I hope you are not right mate!
I wonder when did the relationship with Putin started to crumble, also I wonder if it's just business or something more ideological, that would make it more interesting.

Watch the video I posted, it's from the archival Institute. They have a whole bunch of videos on Iranian contemporary history.

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That's literally how it started you Leaf ass nigga, the country is having high food prices because of sanctions and their foreign policies in Syria and Yemen. Then the students decided to take over the whole thing could've actually been resolved by ruining it like demanding them to abandon the Middle East to Saudis and crying for Neo-Cons to bomb them.

It was another Green Revolution.

The people backing him weren't soft, they probably advised him to execute his enemies instead of exiling them.

Putin still has their backs but he has flirted with the US more than usual.

Current regime needs to be reformed or it will collapse like a house of cards sooner or later. Iran needs to look at Turkey for an example, an Islamic country with a strong industry and economy.

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Will do

>That's literally how it started you Leaf ass nigga
The protest wouldn't have went for a whole week nation wide if there wasnt a deeper issue. And usually you don't go protesting and risking arrest and execution if its just because of food prices. You usually do so if you cannot afford food and are starving.

The only people supporting the regime are inbred muslim goat fuckers. Everyone who was born after the revolution and isn't born from an incest goat fucker family hate the current regime and if given the change would flee from the country.

F least dravds didnt invade

Russians are bad allies.

Don't they have multiple embargos?

In that way Iran and India are the same. If I can recall you guys were also constantly invaded by foreign powers. Persians invaded Delhi and looted the entire city, they took so much everyone in Iran was exempt from paying taxes for 5 years. Even our national jewels were jacked from India. Thanks for bling bling Ravi.

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No there aren't any economic sanctions or embargoes on Turkey.

Gtfo kike

t. Khomeni

>The protest wouldn't have went for a whole week nation wide if there wasnt a deeper issue
If it went on constantly through out months like the Arab Spring then yes, it would've been caused by a deep issue. But it petered out with only students bitching about Hijabs and minorities protesting right now. If Iranians really, really wanted to revolt then they would've but nobody cared and the only people who did are Mutts who were trying to egg it on and called the fucking UN to do something.
>And usually you don't go protesting and risking arrest and execution if its just because of food prices. You usually do so if you cannot afford food and are starving.
Iranians who first protested did because they were farmers and lived in a pretty poor area. But the students decided to take over and chimp out like they did in the Green Revolution because they're millenial retards who are angry about everything that they can't have.
>Everyone who was born after the revolution and isn't born from an incest goat fucker family hate the current regime and if given the change would flee from the country.
If any of those dumbshit Iranians can process this in their mind, they should stop bitching about paying for more food because the alternative they'll get is a Civil war, US intervention, and even higher food prices during a complete degradation of their country getting whored out by Saudis and Mutts.

Our mistake was society getting too lenient, we built great temples Tejo mahal(taj mahal) and stuff, but unfortunately considering the retards we are we absolutely didn’t give two hoots about army and all those temples monuments were stolen or converted like many Hindu temples being destoryed and mosques being placed on top of them, the west is heading the same way, mixed race population and forced mandatory degeneracy if you want to fit in an modern life

Guess what faggot, Iranians dont want to die fighting JewSA. You want to kill all da joos, thats your lookout, not ours

but is was THEIR(Irans) money though wasn't it???!!! Was it seized after the 1979 revolution there? So was it a case of returning, and justly, legally so, Irans money to Iran...

>implying I ever said that you should just nuke Israel
>implying I would rather have you not be an eternal sell out whore to the Saudis because youre upset you cant look at gay porn

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CIA nigger.
Khomeini did nothing wrong.

paki

Sorry, I meant Iran. I doubt anyone will try to mess with the turks.