Jow Forums made me a Christian

Why isn't military service not permissible for Christians? I mean sure, marching for Zion and Americuck Republic isn't permissible, but in general. Why is defending a Christian nation not permissible?

>For instance, I'd imagine you think military activity is permissible for Christians, when in reality it isn't.
Can you elaborate? I'm aware of not resisting an evil person, turning the other cheek, etc.

But wouldn't you say holy wars are sometimes justified, like in the case of the first crusade?

Soldiering is permitted. Luke 3:14

glad to hear it /b/rother

Here's a short podcast that talks about the topic.
youtube.com/watch?v=arV-u9_j6xM
The gist is that there are several explicit commandments from God that really make military participation forbidden for Christians, and you see this contextualized in the behavior and practices of the earliest Christians. There is a paradigm shift following Constantine, during which the "pragmatists (read: political opportunists)" just stop teaching such since they're now the ones in power.

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TL;DW?
I'm watching Fox News now.

Now go forth and produce everlasting fruit OP. P.S. you're welcome from Jesus

so funny joke

Tom Woods looks Jewish

What makes you think you're intelligent enough to even understand God?
What if you're not, but because you're retarded, you think you can?

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I mean, if I wanted a video I'd just google it myself.

At least give us the basic gestalt (love Alex Jones the madman hahahaha)

>Luke 3:14
He's Armenian.

If good is feel good feelings, then yes I can understand God.

The third sentence in my post starts with "the gist is".
Why are you LARP'ing? Do you like cute anime girls?

Not gonna discount your experiences, OP, maybe that's the way God has chosen to reach you. But what did you believe before, and what do you believe now?

But the Christian walk is not something you do alone. Find a good church near you and go join the community of believers. You'll have an opportunity to grow in faith

>feel good feelings
So you're a slave to your endorphins and you confuse for God? How very much like an animal.

There's nothing whiter than a Jewish religion that makes you disassociate from and declare your own ancestors evil.

Oh, so like The Young Turks? They lie a lot.

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>If good is feel good feelings, then yes I can understand God.

**If God is feel good feelings....

>Do you like cute anime girls?
Of course I do. Do you think I'm a fucking liberal or something?

But anyway, your "gist" is not a basic gestalt. Hell, it's not even a quick rundown. Post some biblical passages that point to God forbidding military activity. I'd like to see how you explain like 95% of the Old Testament which is BASED I love Jewish literature so much hahahahahahahahaha

Uh. The Young Turks literally genocided the Armenians. Am I being meme'd?

Fuck off back to facebook or wherever you came from.
>. I believe that Jesus is cool with self defense
Thats odd since that's the opposite of what he preached and lived. And all of his close followers followed what he preached and the example he lived.

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The Bible > your podcast
>Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.”
The End

The OT was the tale of Jews being idiots for thousands of years and God holding their hands through/despite their idiocy until Christ came.
That's a good way to summarize the OT.

Luke 3:14 literally says "do violence to no man".
Christ says in the Sermon on the Mount to love your enemy (Matthew 5:44).

I didn't believe anything before. Now I see God and the Devil. I don't see them with my two eyes, but with the eye within. Pineal gland/visual cortex stuff. I've met demons and I've met angels. They were as real as this right now.

I had a UFO abduction experience after puffing DMT. The grey aliens are not physical things in this world, they are deities that enter into our minds. They are hallucinations essentially. They are the demons described in religious. THEY STRAPPED ME TO A FUCKING OPERATING TABLE AND TOOK ALL MY VITAL SIGNS! wtf??

I've also met angels. But angels don't drag me with them, they just welcome me to follow. The demons drag and grab a hold. I've always chosen not to follow the angels because the path is too scary. No fapping/porn. No getting high. No more impure lifestyles. It's way fucking hard to be good.

He said be content with your wages - not leave your job. That is literally the passage. Stop being obtuse.

Top Kek

As I thought, the self-proclaimed "Christian" was a filthy fedora all along. I bet you wouldn't even want to fight Saracens for the Holy Land.
Why don't you go back to pleddit?

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Sure. I thought like you. I wanted to master my own reality, totally control my body and mind. Modern satanism shit. It's just a dead end road. It's draining trying to keep the ego inflated constantly. I'm done. Fuck it, I give up and let go. God makes me feel good. If you think I'm stupid, whatever fuck you kiddo. jk jk senpai

>stop being obtuse
It's literally the verse.
biblehub.com/greek/diaseise_te_1286.htm

Yo little terrorist girl, "Prophet" Mohammed was a pedophile.

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Satanists are bad

I also like cute anime girls.

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You're going to get a lot of pit of context verses here. I had a similar experience to yours and it eventually led me to salvation. If I may offer some advice:

Go read your Bible and pray. Read the whole NT fast as you can, and read Genesis as you go.

Also watch Marching To Zion, free on Jew Tube. Anderson isn't the be-all end-all, but he lays out a proper biblical view of the Jews.

I'll pray for you user. Don't take individual verses from Jow Forumsacks for theology, or from anyone else for that matter. Read your Bible and find a church where Scripture is read in large quantities during service.

Out of actual curiosity, do you know why the soldiers came up to him in the first place?
You DO know the context of that interaction right?
That it was literally trying to coax Christ to say something that could be used as an excuse to murder Him...?

Good that's half the way
Now what else is cute?
Jews

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I know that now. But a few years ago I was interested in their whole dark image thing. I was all like "hail satan" but not really. Most of it is super fake, and then the few who are real satanists are. super. fucking. psycho. Like, I'm talking about killing people and stuff like that. They are the definition of evil.

He's saying don't oppress them. Defending yourself isn't you being violent. Just as you can "violently" smash apart a log that's fallen on your leg. "Violence" meaning "physical force" is a modern distortion of the word.

Strict pacifism is at odds with the Christianity, as we see Jesus himself using force to expel the moneychangers from the temple (not to mention the entire Old testament, or Paul's endorsement of the state) there is however an ascetic tradition of pacifism.

Seen Marching To Zion. It's good but only quasi-redpill. When I say I know about the Jew, believe me, I know about the Jew. I do not hate the Jews. I want them to be happy. But... they just need to get the fuck out of my bank accounts. Their beliefs disagree with many of my beliefs. I do believe that I am doing what God wants by standing up against their Jewishness.

They're talking to John the Baptist, you fucking twit.

They are edgy teenagers who never had a parent to read them the Bible with and fell to a life of degeneracy
Lots of those here pretending to be Christians but being racist anti-semites

Not all Jews

Pretending Jews and other races aren't guilty of sin or denying Whites the right to charity and justice isn't consistent with Christian ethics.

Nor is denying the reality of race, or human groups.

Well.... Martin Luther..... uh, he was pretty Christian. His last book is titled On the Jews and Their Lies. Soooo uhhhh yeahhh.... about that...

So you're talking about John, as if John's words override Christ's? Christ talks to soliders trying to bait him at one point - I thought this was that point, since you people usually want to bring up that verse rather than quote fucking John.

"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )
“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”

If you're to never avenge yourselves - since God doesn't need your help when it comes to justice - why do you incessantly argue against Him?

God can judge humans. Christ is God.
Meanwhile, we're humans, and we're bound to God's commands, such as
>"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )

Race isn't important

Galatians 3:28

KEK
Luther did a good thing by starting the reformation but he was still a nazi Kraut

Sorry for being rough, though. I don't mean to drive away brothers in Christ. I get overly passionate.

Not all Jews what? I'm fine with the Jews. I like them as people. And like everyone, I judge each person on an individual basis. That said, Jewishness (not the people who are Jewish) goes against many many belief systems of mine. Their religion needs to evolve; hence Jesus. They reject Jesus. Why?

In Christian ethics violence is acceptable in the following circumstances.

1. Self defense.
2. Civic authorities enforcing law.
3. Just wars.

Salvation is available to all humans that doesn't mean all nations are equal you filthy lying semite

>he was still a nazi Kraut

Whoa. (((user))) exposed.

Please don't apologize for banter or insults. Everyone needs thicker skin, so it's best if you're combative and obstinate in your interactions, especially online.

Vengeance and not allowing yourself to be murdered are separate issues.

Galatians speaks to the universality of gospel and election, in contrast to the Jew's notions of being God's favorite race, not the importance of race.

Jewishness needs to be protected and the Jews need to return to Sion before the second coming

It's in the bible every true Christian knows

Stop pretending you're Christian when you hate Jews you commie fedoras

In Christian ethics none of those are ever acceptable, and Christ forbids them all.
Why do you think the earliest Christians were all to a T pacifists? Do you think it was an accident?

The earliest Christians DID allow themselves to be murdered, and that was celebrated that they could die for their faith like that.

God has a favorite race just like Jesus had a favorite disciple, John.

I'm Christian you viper-tongued kike

How quickly the gentiles turn on the Jew. Oh, and of course, it is because the gentiles are racist angry hate filled nazi anti-semite hate speechers. ....not that the Jew is lying and trying to turn each other against each other, no, not that. Couldn't be. That's preposterous.

Who are you calling viper-tongue you hateful fuck? Stop spreading your vitriol, Jews are based.

You say you are Jews, but you are not, for you are of the Synagogue of Satan. Christians are the true Jews, the followers of Yeshua.

Christ himself uses violence to expel the money changers from the temple, and tells his disciples to buy swords. Both acts are incompatible with strict pacifism.

Moreover Paul tells us Romans 13:4 "4For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."

Like I said, there is a practice of ascetic pacifism within the Christian tradition, but strict pacifism is absolutely inconsistent with the Christian message.

Just pointing out that it's a biblical case.

Also, you need to pray and ask God to bless your studies, the Holy Spirit to guide you to understanding, and Jesus to save you. Regularly. This is a powerful time in your life as a Christian, take advantage of it!

I literally spoke to that already.

I do not hate Jews. But that doesn't mean I let the Jew walk all over me. You are trying to convince me that by standing up to you that somehow makes me a bad person. I disagree. And I know Jesus and God are on my side. I know evil, and I know God. The feeling I get standing up to Jewishness is the feeling of the presence of God.

Alright, fag bait.
1. Self defense =/= vengeance or violence
2. You don't NEED to be martyrd. Christ already made the ultimate sacrifice on our behalf.
3. Some early Christians were pacifists. Some weren't. Some were martyrd. Some weren't. Matyrdom isn't part of the creed.

Do you read the bible, like, ever?
That was directed to the PHARISEES and I don't see any PHARISEES walking around sooooo yeah

Thank you. I took screenshots of your posts and will definitely use it as a study guide.

You're right - you don't NEED to be martyred. It's perfectly acceptable to flee - you have no commands against that. But you DO have commands against using VIOLENCE to harm others.
>"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )

Modern rabbinical Judaism is the surviving descendant of pharisaism. It's not like you can perform sacrifices anymore YHWH absolutely ass-ravaged your people for killing your savior by destroying the temple and destroying the genealogical records so know one may know if they are of the Levite-priesthood. Your entire religion is obsoleted lol

>a decent Christian thread
Havent seen one of these in a long time

Are you Jewish?

Are you being ironic? There are Christian threads all the time, and this is so far about as bait-y as they come.

Why do you Jews reject Yeshua as the messiah? Why do you hate him so much?

Christ is both God and man who we are commanded to emulate, and none of these commandments are at odds with the use of violence in certain circumstances.

Nearly every denomination and Christian theologian agrees with me on this matter, the Catholic, eastern&oriental Orthodox, low church and mainline Protestants.

www3.telus.net/public/kstam/en/temple/details/evidence.htm
Your own people provide evidence on how your god abandoned you for abandoning Him

LOL! Modern Jews are literally the successors of the Pharisees.

>none of these commandments are at odds with the use of violence in certain circumstances
Give me a single instance wherein it is an act of love to kill someone.
Tell me in what circumstances you can justify using unwanted violence against someone by Matthew 7:12.

This exact proves the point of my OP. Jow Forums turned me into a Christian. It is here in this wonderful place called Jow Forums that I saw just exactly how much the Jews hate Jesus. I started asking, "Why is that?" I finally saw that Jesus is the way, the light when everything around me is dark. Jesus is such a powerful entity, and yet you Jews deny him as anything more than just some shmuck. What is wrong with your Jews?

I'm trying to convince you that Jews aren't evil like anti-semites would let you think
If you think they are collectively responsible for all the bad stuff that happens you have been fooled by the neo nazis

No but I'm a proud judeophile like all good Christians

They won't accept him until they return to Sion which needs to happen asap if we want Jeesus to come back

Wrong, Pharisaism died and Talmudic Judaism which is BASED took its place as the Chosen People's tradition

What's the difference between Adam Kadmon, Rebus, Phanes, Baphomet, Zurvan and Aion?

To uphold the rule of law and to save the lives of innocents.

Fuck off with your witchcraft satanist
Accept Christ before it's too late for you

>the rule of law
You're literally defying God's Law, which is the only law that matters - that doesn't even qualify as an ATTEMPT at an excuse for a Christian.

Gross. You are like Pastor John Hagee..... You are worse than the Jews. At least they were born into it, so they have that excuse. You are protecting their broken ways. What the fuck user? What the fuck? YOU ARE NOT A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST. You are a Jew loving demon.

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Yea this guy is definitely trolling.

Unfortunately braindead jew tools like this actually exist in substantial numbers in the United States. One good thing to come out of the babyboomers dieing off is we'll see less of the unironic Christian Zionism.