Dressing and culture

I remember when Spandex was exclusively for fat soccer moms.

It's all the post-68 generation's fault. Noone taught me till 23 how to dress appropriately. Even with tailors and cobblers etc. in the family. The modern man has to work for the knowledge.

I think it's the elimination of strict social classes.

Mostly. Also a push towards cheaply made sweatshop garbage and incomes freezing in the 70s. Throw in the infantilization of soiety as a whole along and you end up where we are.

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I fucking hate man buns. Nothing else in this world says s oyboy to me more than a manbun.

It gets hot if you don't tie it up.

Jesus, you people are vapid
It really amazes me how consistently shallow and surface level most people on this board are. It's just pieces of cloth to dress up what is already just a physical vessel for our souls, the only ethical aspect of what you choose to wear has to do with how the clothing was produced (if it came from child labor, etc)

Just cut your hair

>those gigantic lapels

Shorn locks are the mark of the slave.

companies using cheap labor to make shittier clothing so people have to buy more

You hate man buns because theyre considered attractive and mostly attractive people wear team, and that makes you insecure
And no, I dont have a man bun, i just wanted to point out your crabbiness

>man buns because theyre considered attractive

No.

Get a haircut hippie.

when does it stop though? You want to wear a powdered wig, make-up, stockings and frilly pseudo-dresses like men of the medieval era?

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This. The cheap style of dress is far more profitable.

>manbuns
Personally I like them. The mark of a true worthless faggot. When I see one, I automatically know this is a person I don't need to take seriously. Thanks for the heads up.

Maybe because its warm outside

Your demeanor, bearing, and the discipline and perfection in how you present yourself is incredibly important. If you consider people's state of dress, how they carry themselves, the maintaining of their bearing and standing as something vapid you have fundimentally failed in interacting socially.

A well tailored suit with the correct shoe and tie combination or a Police officers uniform, crisp and clean with shined glossy boots and sharp creases project images that have real world effects. A well made and tailored to suit makes one professional, a sharp uniform on a police officer is literally part of their force continuum called officer presence and can deescalate situations simple by appearing as too put together to "pull one over" on.

>theyre considered attractive
I dated a hippie chick and she talked shit about every guy with a man bun that we came across. A couple years ago I had long hair myself, in summer I tied it (not into a bun) and my girlfriend (different one) told me we would have to split if I had man bun. On a photo it looked like a man bun and her friends talked shit about it. All lefties btw. Attractive to homos maybe.

Guess what, people make assumptions made from first impressions. It's totally normal to judge someone based on the way they present themselves as long as you realise it's just first impressions and can be subject to change. Agree on the amoral aspect of clothes but the use of them can signal a lot about a person. Imagine going to a funeral of a beloved one and seeing someone peacock the shit out of themselves. How would that change your perception of him?

They look proportionally better on most men.

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How about just not wearing underwear as outerwear unless you are actually working out or doing physical labor?

There's no reason to have long hair you brainlet. There are virtually no wealthy businessmen or politicians who have long hair. The only one I can think of offhand is Richard Branson. Unless you're a teenage boy, a rockstar, or a female, cut your damn hair. And if you're a teenage boy, you should till probably cut your hair.

Yea, verily.

It’s not just what you wear it’s how you wear it.

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What the hell is up with this. I keep seeing these poster insulting everyone for being unattractive and they use 30 year old roastie/normie lingo. They all have Britfag or Nazi flags I keep seeing them pop up and threads calling people unattractive, incels, uncultured, ectect. Are we being invaded by a group of boomers or something?

I travel a lot in SEA. I always make a point to dress like the locals - light slacks and short sleeve button down. Nothing says "I am a dopey western degenerate tourist" than dressing like a dopey western degenerate tourist.

>people make assumptions made from first impressions
Who gives a shit

Presentable, in a office or work setting. The average white man after work or on their day off wears jeans and a t shirt. I only know one man who doesn't immediately switch to jeans and t-shirt when outside of work and he is over 50 and uses a iron on his casual clothes.

Shutup Muhammad... If you cannot dress accordingly, you are just an entitled normie.
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Anyone with social skills more advanced then a chimps.

Op is a fag. You are probably like the v security guard wannabe cop. That ask if i have a room at the hotel. Bitch. I work on a computer making 100k with no college degree nor am i botch ass salesmen or marketer. I tell my boss what he needs to know. And that's that. And your fancy ass dress don't make you smart or rich. Just shows to me that your their monkey with suot and tie. Don't like my dressing? Suck me off ill to back to Microsoft

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Good point, one can go too far. For the time being the foundations of modern clothing have been laid by our 20th century ancestors. The formal everyday outfit will undoubtedly change in the future. But in regards to today all you see is a clustered mess. (((Individuality))) is heralded yet everyone wears a combination of the same informal clothing thinking they are unique.

>on Jow Forums in the current year and not understanding how perception shapes reality

This guy fucks

t. 10tb porn collectors.

Not surprising coming from a neet.

We're in 2018 bro

My social skills tell me that overdressing when it's 25C out is going to make people laugh behind your back.

>it's the current year!

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i bet you look like shite in your fedora, stupid cunt

>anything above cargo pants and that polo my nan got me back in college is fedora-tier

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Check

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I'm not saying another persons outfit doesn't make some signals go off in my head and give me an idea of them as a person. But the idea that some types of clothing are more or less respectable, or that everyone should dress accordingly to what is conventionally 'fancier' is silly and shallow to me. Youd have to be incredibly impressionable and childish to think that a suit and tie is inherently superior to or more respectable something more causal.
The examples of the police uniform and funeral attire are specific to their situation, the uniform signals their profession and funeral attire is a solemn sign of respect. I do think that dressing according to the conventional standards of 'respectability' has their place in specific cases like those, but serve no purpose apart from that of ego in everyday situations

Checked on them double doubles, but respectfully disagree- there are relatively few successful business guys with Maiden-circa-83 long hair, but the standard douchebag slicked-back wall street guy hair cut it actually long as shit (compared to your every day Great Clips coif) it just doesn't look like it when it's combed and fastened in place with a gallon of bullshit.

*than something

Yes.

Jesus Christ how did you ever net 100 grand without being able to put together a simple sentence. This reads like a stroke victim talks.

>where does it stop
Black tie.
White tie and tails is still around, but is used only at the most exclusive of events and youd most likely have to be a state official or celebrity to even get invited to an event like that.
>Black tie
>Black tie optional
>Formal
>Business casual
>Casual
The dress codes and rules to mens fashion are unbelievably simple. It can be learned in a week.

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Fashion is DEAD. I dress to impress every. single. day. That means wearing a suit and tie to class every time I go. I get a lot of looks from cute girls too so I know that it is working. They never talk to me though because they are probably intimidated by my intelligence. Its almost impossible to learn when you are dressed like a bum. You have to be in the right mindset, and that is only accomplished in a suit and tie.

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I can't even find a short nowadays that's knee long.
Short shorts are gay as hell.

10/10

Because it’s really easy to understand and excel in IT without social or communication skills. Just be actually intelligent, not faux “educated”.

Fashion used to be good.

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For one you're comparing winter versus summer in your picture. For two, the bottom row likely don't have a professional type of job. Even do if it's an off day there's no reason to wear a full suit. People back in the early part of the last century didn't wear suits 24/7 either they were just only photographed in them because cameras were not a ubiquitous as they are now so it was a more special event. Hand drawn art simply reflected this artistic style.

tl;dr
Stop having a stick up your ass about what other men wear, faggot

Yep, we still dress nicely in the South (at least the wealthy South) and we also still have social classes, the rest of America is based on Puritan egalitarianism. The south has long rejected this culture and instead embraced the cavalier culture they brought from southwest England.

>I can't even find a short nowadays that's knee long.
Because it's extremely ugly
>Short shorts are gay as hell.
What does 'gay' mean in this context? More comfortable and aethetically pleasing?

If you actually wear cargo you have no place talking about what is or is not good for people to wear

Point taken, then disregarded. Just a quick google search shows you numerous photos of people back in the day dressing with care even during the hotter months.

found the fag
short shorts look shit even on women, anything that's above knee is degenerate. women shouldn't show their legs altogether.

Above the knee is considered the standard by the entirety of the upper class world my guy. Only people that wear below the knee are sexually insecure country folk or nigs

>Talks about puritanism in places outside the south
>In the literal Bible belt where they still hate gays and pretend their daughters aren't having sex with multiple different dudes even before college
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Good on the South, keeping English traditions alive even if the English themselves have abandoned them.

That’s a good thing

>Is the cultural decline to blame for the dumbing down of dressing?
Basically population growth making complex suits more rare and less material efficient

Back in the day you wore a polo and khakis on your day off but that is long gone

Based bong

Yes, Puritanism is a Yankee/New England thing. Come back when you have learned some American history you fucking idiot. The reason gays are acceptable is because of the Puritan ideas

I honestly feel this way sometimes. Still would love to live in Somerset though.

... You got a problem with cargo shorts, fuckface?

What about tracksuits?

Yes

If you don’t dress like this you are pleb

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what's the difference between 3 and 4 from the left?

Why would I wanna look like a queer fratboy?

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But that's not medieval fashion in your pic, that's modern, georgian one.
That's medieval

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Young fags would rather carry a backpack everywhere they go instead of using their pockets. They are even bringing back the fanny pack so they can wear their ball squeezing shorts.

>not dressing like based reviewbrah

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Because everybody else dresses like a slob

Black tie optional has stricter rules. Black or charcoal suit colors only. Black shoes, solid white shirt and a dark, simple neck tie are a must.
Formal/business could have almost any suit color. Black, navy, lighter blues, browns, tans, grays, etc. Shoes could be black still, but brown or oxblood or tan would be acceptable as well. Shirt wouldn't have to be white, but should probably still be solid or a simple pattern. The tie would be optional these days as well, or could be more creative patterns and color pallets.

frats are such fakes

Not really. It isn't the type of clothes that matter, it's the quality. Jeans and a T shirt can look good if they're well made and well fitted to the person wearing them. What we have today is guys wearing ripped, dirty jeans that are two sizes too big and a fucking mustard stain on his stretched out shirt.

This shows a cultural decline as we have no more sense of decency or self respect. When we don't care at all about how we're perceived, you get more and more degeneracy and narcissism. There's no sense of common decency. Why would they bother to dress decently? Fuck everybody else. Why hide or try to stamp out their perversions? Fuck everybody, I'm gonna be me. I may be obese and repulsive but the world needs to change to accept that I am beautiful, not the other way around.

You live in Sweden. The only thing you know about frats is what the Jewish media tells you. Good goy.

>uhhhh how come fashion changed???? what can we do to stop it lol?????

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>incels
>30 year old roastie/normie lingo
U wot

its the ppl who wear pajamas everywhere and smell that are the issue here

how are wearing pyjamas an issue

this
as soon as i see this i think commies

ew, no

One local white politician has long hair

When you wear them our to do your daily tasks it's excessive.
Plus those types of people over here change their pajama pants just as often as they shower.
So once a week.

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