Did Jordan Peterson just give himself enough rope to hang?

Reading the comments section and he is getting BTFO big time, the whole Jewish IQ thing seems to be a myth for starters. I think he is going to have more to answer for now than he can handle, he should have left it alone. this isn't going to go well for him.


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I can't do it

I used to think he was controlled opposition, but it's obvious from the beginning that he is just a pseudo-intellectual that appears as a genius to an audience that is either dumb or wants to hear what he says to them. And he's also fucked up enough to profit from his young audience, living with +100k per month of their donations (while he has a job). Oh, and he also happens to be a disgusting Jewphile.

Literally everything he says is a combination of a shortened works form great men of the past.

>he whole Jewish IQ thing seems to be a myth for starters
No, it isn't. The myth is that Jews are represented according to their IQ, just like blacks they are heavily favored in the education system.

Why are leafs always peterson's biggest critics? Anyone have an explanation for this phenomenon?

Are they the butthurt trannies that he wouldn't respect?

Nah man he's just milking his endeavours , attacking Jews would be the end of him, normies don't have the IQ to understand the JQ thus him talking about it is practically useless.

Though i agree he is a coward but at the very least he's attacking retarded marxist ideas.

I don’t get why he even talks about it at all. I guess he wants to get men away from the alt right.

That first comment just completely destroys him, i'd love to see him reply to it.

he's just grateful to be the new darling of the Acceptable Conservative, National Review-type crowd, and is only interested in saying what's necessary to stay inside the tent.

even if it means reverting, like an utter retard, to the very modes of thinking he's trying to discredit. we're all individuals, but Jews are biologically our betters and deserve to rule as a unified caste. the greatest achievement of 'the west' is the conclusion that it requires the higher consciousness of non-westerners, Jews, to have any legitimacy. it's not possible to coordinate as a group, and there's no evidence Jews ever have, but Jewish revolutionary 'progress' is an essential, nay THE essential, ingredient in our betterment. he's a stark-raving retard and the only reason to like him is if you have severe father-separation problems.

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>Normies lack the IQ to understand the JQ

And yet most normies are perfectly capable of accepting "Muh White Oppressors" dogmuck.
You're fooling yourself and you're making excuses. Literally all it will take is for someone (like a person in Peterson's position) to say:
>The Banks are run by a rootless international clique 90+% of which are Jewish who actively work to subvert the interests of a Nation for the sake of profit. They're highly nepotistic and collectivist, and while no one can fault them for competing for resources, we can blame them for undermining the foundational principles of our nations. Antisemitism implies you have a moral obligation to be Pro-Semitic. You are under no such moral obligation.

That's all it would take to get normies to accept the fact that there is a serious problem.

It's all the filthy sjw's in Toronto mainly. This is why we can't have nice things up here.

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His IQ is 155, so he's literally a genius. Just one you don't like. His brain runs circles around yours.

Peterson is a hack for people craving a father figure. Nothing more, nothing less

but now he is going to draw a lot of attention to the JQ, if people read those comments, man oh man, it's the fucking red-pill dooms day in that mother fucker.

He shouldn’t have brought up the whole issue then. Also the world view that you can somehow manage politics without identity politics is horrendously dysfunctional.

Any evidence for that? My iq is 400.

Go away ShitBlue

Trannies > le enlightened centrists. Unironically.

so he can't be jewish apologist just because he's smart?
you don't think they gave him generous donation to promote their agenda?
also do you actually think he believes in everything he writes?

Whilst i agree with what you said to begin with , it becomes extremely difficult to do with the holocaust narrative looming.
Questioning jews at all is practically impossible in most countries now because of this.

The minute jews are put into question , the average normies brain will shut down and just think they are being lied to whilst thinking back to the holocaust, they'll try to find the other side of the argument and it'll always be that they are somehow being lied to.
The argument against it is always the holocaust narrative, how "we" were the deceptive people that gassed 6 million "innocent" people.

You're not thinking this through to the topic of debate and argument, though if i were personally JP i'd go out with a bang for sure and just drop as many redpills as possible, maybe he plans to do so someday, who knows.

Perhaps when he was in his 20's but he's over 50 now... would be very surprised if it were still above 125 to be honest.

> Unironically.

Sounds like you're a faggot

He always gets roasted.

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this, but unironically

Nah, I just think there are far more important issues than pronoun games.

>This charlatan said he has and IQ of 155 to back up all his pseudo-intellectual claims
>It must be true!!!11 I mean, he spits recicled Jungian and Nietzschean concepts so HE HAS to be a genius!!1

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His rug designing skills are as gay as Liberace

Considering that the number of people who don't even know what the holocaust is is rising, and something like 40% of teens interviewed don't believe in it, the time to strike was yesterday.

The longer we keep letting the holocaust hold us back the harder it will be, the Jews are probably already scheming a new "atrocity" and I don't doubt that they're setting the stage for Assad to be accused if necessary.

This just clicked. Asians are penalized at some universities when it comes to admission because they tend to do so much better than other students on average. I've never heard of Jewish students being penalized when it comes to admission. Has anyone else?

The jewish question has consistently been avoided by so-called intellectuals and newfags. (((They))) own porn and host it for free, why? Interracial porn appeals to the subconscious white instinct of sucking dick and this is how jews make their profit. Hitler also was NOT a vegetarian.

his self-professed goal is to steer people away from reactionary illiberal views, yet here come the utter fucking rubes to defend him against imaginary shariablue bots.

wow he grumbled about trannies one time, he sure is Based. i'll just drop all my other concerns about jews, mass immigration, liberal democracy, and egalitarianism, because this guy told me to and he's Based.

I can't help but think he's purposefully being misleading for people to simultaneously accept IQ and race as well as make them look at the statistics and figure it out themselves. Because that's what he's doing whether intentional or not.

SAME POSTS, EVERY DAY MULTIPLE JP SHILL THREADS

SAGE

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He's right you know. If you understand statistics even slightly then you'll understand that if you shift and entire distribution up or down the scale vs another distribution that even small changes in the mean can cause extreme differences at the tail end.

What I find hilarious is that most of the radical right are race realists and like to bang the drum about how blacks are low IQ but when faced with the painful thought that other groups are higher than whites it turns into conspiracy theory. It's fucking embarrassing to be quite honest. And quite frankly if you can't do the maths or understand the statistics I have some bad news for you, you're not part of that intellectual elite.

He did, the latest update on the article addresses that comment specifically and blows it out the water. And again if you weren't critical of that comment it either means you don't understand the statistics, which you could learn if you watched his lectures on IQ and distributions. Or you're so brainwashed by this idiocy that you're simply not critical of any of it.

As far as I know jews are counted as white, which means that they actually receive a bonus, which is kind of funny since jews are already massively overpresented.

I would argue that liberalism is inherently reactionary, but that’s another thread.

Who bet his career or the jew horse ?

Black mean iq is significantly higher and jewish iq is significantly lower than what is usually said.

fpbp

>Considering that the number of people who don't even know what the holocaust is is rising, and something like 40% of teens interviewed don't believe in it, the time to strike was yesterday.

I wasn't aware of this number, in fact i was certain most schools in the USA ( if it was done in the USA ) had a history class explicitly for the holocaust.

>The longer we keep letting the holocaust hold us back the harder it will be, the Jews are probably already scheming a new "atrocity" and I don't doubt that they're setting the stage for Assad to be accused if necessary.

I don't doubt that at all and i completely agree Assad would be the perfect target for them as well.

PS you’re a faggot.

CIA nigger

You're a piece of shit.

Do you hear me?

Tavistock piece of SHIT

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Did I trigger a bot or what the fuck happened?

Tavistockian niggardly with the intellect

That kinda swing would take a TBI or neurotoxic drug to occur. Two standard deviations, would be the same as a 100 IQ average white becoming retarded.

CIA You are under arrest

that almost seems possible because this seems like such a huge misstep on his part, there is going to be some very uncomfortable truths smacking people in the forehead from this that is for sure. Jews always ignore this topic for a reason, they don't want to draw attention to it, his updated response only stirs that pot even further. and it was almost too half ass'd to be believable from a scholar, i mean he gives no reliable sources even.

You probably need some serious help.

I've just recognised an error in both posts.
Most jews are not Ashkenazi, Israels average IQ is 87.

The numbers are both wrong in both posts, simply due to every single jew not being Ashkenazi which means that drops their average IQ , or it simply drops the numbers.

Which in turn debunks JP's position, so in theory JP debunked himself.

Sorry not 87, it's 95 ish.

Maybe come down and then post

yes but in the comments the notion of "estimated" avg Jewish IQ even being 115 gets drawn into question and is BTFO. he should have left it alone. being right hypothetically will not suffice.

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He's a fucking joke.

so which is it. either group-coordination doesn't exist or natural hierarchy sanctions its existence. either social darwinism is the foundation of the status quo, or it's the most morally repugnant and false idea of modern times. which. fucking. is it.

either read solzhenitsyn to observe the horrors of collectivism, or don't read him because he's critical of Jews as a group.

you ppl dont' feel the need to hammer out these inconsistencies, or even notice them, content in Dr. Peterson's big-brained'ness and his ability to 'parse the stats'. more empiricism grafted over areas it has no business being in btw.

What the fuck are you saying?

Jesus that is unnerving.

He did a great response. There is no jewish conspiracy, it just happens that high IQ individuals are generally more degenerate.

Can you tell me why Jordan Peterson is CIA?

It's 115 for Ashkenazi Jews though.

Indian IQ is the highest

>the answer to the first question
Sketchy motherfucker

No it’s not dude. I’ve yet to see a single source for that. 100 or even 95 is far more realistic.

Apparently high IQ Jews play identity politics but it's a stupid idea at the same time. JP doesn't seem to realize that the actual reasoning for it is entirely pragmatic and naturally selected.

There are multiple studies on that. Stop being a lazy cunt.

41% of jews in Israel are Ashkenazi jews with an average IQ of 115, which means the numbers we're dealing with are even lower on paper, JP's reply literally debunks itself.

>poo IQ is supreme

>medical proffesor a pseudo intelectual
What in the fuck does an actual intellectual look like then

He's CIA what do you expect?

If IQ explains the achievement gap between Jews and white gentiles, does IQ explain the achievement gap between blacks and whites?

If we accept Jews dominate economic and social sectors solely due to IQ, why are Jews not subject to laws and social pressure requiring diversity regardless of merit? If more then three white gentiles cluster in a regulated sector of western society, they are subjected to anti racial discrimination regulations and relentless social pressure as unrepresentative of demographics, regardless of merit. How do Jews avoid this phenomenon?

We are all told that Jews are a monolith with a mean IQ of 115. How do you respond to Theodore Beale's analysis which undermines the assumption jews' average IQ is 115? He analysed the claims from Steven Pinker, Richard Lynn, Harry Harpending and Charles Murray and noted the following:

All studies measured average 'Jewish' intelligence with redernce to an Ashkenazi subset.
All studies then established an average from a subset of the subset, consisting of the highest intelligence components of exclusive private school cohorts.

It is. Ashkenazism is Asiatic genetics.

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Your logical structure does not lead to a safe conclusion

Satan is an intellectual.

As Mr Beale puts it:

"...the primary source of the "115 IQ" claim appears to be a 1957 study by Boris Levinson entitled "The Intelligence of Applicants for Admission to Jewish Day Schools" published in Jewish Social Studies,Vol. 19, No. 3/4 (Jul. - Oct., 1957), pp. 129-140.

Right in the study, which reported a 114.88 mean IQ for the 2083 students sampled, the author notes its intrinsic limitations.
This study is limited to applicants for Day Schools adhering to the principles of the National Commission for Yeshiva Education. This sampling does not claim to represent the entire Jewish school population or even those children attending yeshiva Day Schools with a different educational emphasis.

Levinson further admits that the students sampled only represented 38 percent of the 5494 students attending the 16 Day Schools, raising the possibility that the sampled scores were cherry-picked. Now, are we seriously expected to believe that the mean of a partial subset of a wealthy private school subset of a half-European subset is even remotely representational of the average of the complete population set? This is so utterly absurd on its face that for the logically inclined, it alone should suffice to conclusively refute the claim.

In the study, Levinson refers to a 1956 study by Robert D. North concerning American fourth-graders from 16 independent private schools, and noted the following:

Many of these schools select their pupils on the basis of mental ability and achievement. Because these schools charge tuition fees, most of their pupils come from higher socio-economic levels. These children had a mean IQ of 119.3.

>Are blacks and whites diff-
YES.

Yeah, no. Every study that I’ve seen on the topic either isn’t about actually measuring the iq, or it measures it using completely atrocious methology. Are you planning on becoming a trannie prostitute, because it seems like you’re too dumb for any other job.

Shall we therefore conclude that the average white American is more intelligent than the average Jew because one very small group of elite private-schooled white Americans outperformed another very small group of elite private-schooled Jews? Of course not, that would be nonsensical, right? The samples are not representative, right? There are numerous other statistical idiosyncracies that demonstrate the irrelevance of these post-WWII IQ studies to average population IQs; for example, one study reported that the average IQ of the boys was 112.8 and of the girls was 113.6. If we are to take these particular IQ studies as definitive, then we must conclude that girls are more intelligent than boys, all other subsequent studies and observations to the contrary."

How can the average for Jews be 115 as a monolith when the average in Israel is 95 and in Jordan is 85?

As Mr Beale goes onto say:

"Given the average reported Israeli IQ of 95, and the average reported Jordanian IQ of 84, the claim of an average 115 IQ for Ashkenazi Jews would necessarily require all other Jews to have an average IQ of 83.9. This means that even if Ashkenazi Jews did have a mean IQ of 115, then the average Jewish IQ would be 106.7. However, on the basis of the original studies pointing out that the reported IQ scores are not indicative of mean or average Ashkenazi IQ, we can be 100 percent certain that this estimated 106.7 IQ is higher than the real Jewish average.

For example, if Lynn is correct and the Ashkenazi mean is 107.5, then the average Jewish IQ is 103.1. Not bad, certainly, but considerably lower than 115 and an insufficient foundation on which to construct a believable narrative of intellectual superiority and inevitable success."

So it seems to me a very open question as to whether the Jewish IQ average IQ really is in fact 115.

What is your rejoinder to Mr Beale?

dont talk about my dad

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Jews and whites are different.

>the whole Jewish IQ thing seems to be a myth for starters
I blame the alt-right for perpetuating a Jewish superiority meme Jow Forums laid to rest long ago.

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He's ripe for the Ben Garrison treatment.

He's also severely cucked by his jewish abomination of a wife by the looks of it.

Knowledge without morality only makes man a more clever devil. Secular Jews best example

Do you think Hillary Clinton is one person?

That's an JQ test.

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There really is no point arguing against conclusive evidence.

his only ploy is to revert to social darwinism, to insist that Jewish IQs sanction their right to steer the west, as a way of 'refuting' the idea that Jewish IQs steer the west. in other words, it's natural, and we have to live with that. and if it were true, that Jews put bluntly 'run things', that's actually a good thing. so you can admit that it's true only if you admire it. so you can say Jews were involved in civil rights, gay marriage, anti-colonialism, abortion rights, mass migration, and if you agree that that's all for the better you're not an anti-semite. but if you say yes they were involved in all of that but it's a bad thing, then you're an anti-semite and a conspiracy theorist, and he'll shriek that they've never ever coordinated as a bloc for their interests.

in his mind, there is way to not conclude that Jews are morally superior and naturally deserving of their station as captain of the ship.

Can I get sauce for this?

That's not really what the lobsters mean.

Meta-analysis on that?

The lobsters are sadomasochists.

What are proxies?

Lol yes it does, he is labelling 6 million jews at 115 IQ when the majority of jews on this planet aren't even Ashkenazi.

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Why is Peterson obsessed with sadomasochistic lobsters?

The majority of jews do not conspire.

Look, tranny, why don’t you paste the relevant part here because I’m tired of going over bullshit journals just to conclude for the millionth time that jews don’t have extraordinary iq.

That's because of the caste system of Judaism.

the majority of the Japanese did not bomb pearl harbor, but the ADL isn't going to try and ruin my life if i say 'the japanese bombed pearl harbor'

*or are not able to enter significant positions. Hitler talked about Ashkenazi in particular since they were dominating the culture.

Zero Japanese bombed pearl harbour.