hey guys. I've been doing some research, and I found something strange about the christians of the Middle East. Most of their communities are over a thousand years old and predate the Islamic/Arabian invasions of the Levant and North Africa. About 10-15% of Egyptians today are Coptic Christians, and they are a unique ethnicity different to the surrounding arabs. The Copts (pic related) can trace their ancestry back to the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt and are their true descendents, while the muslim population is mostly arabized north africans.
The same can be said of other Middle East communities like the Assyrians of Iraq, and the Syriacs of Lebanon and Western Syria. If we look at these ethnoreligious groups, can we essentially see the faces of the ancient Near East still alive today, despite being vastly outnumbered by arabs? posting more examples
Here's the phenotype averages of Saudi Arabs, Iraqi Arabs, and the Assyrians (an ethnoreligious christian community of ancient heritage similar to the Copts, but in Iraq).
The Assyrians look more Semitic and far less Arabian than the normal Iraqi Arabs. The Assyrians can trace their ancestry back to the Nestorians and even further beyond that. Despite some obvious admixture in the last 3,000 years, I think it's safe to say that Copts, Assyrians, Armenians, and Maronites/Syriacs are the remnants of the ancient middle east. It also makes sense that these communities are the most successful diaspora, especially Leb Christians, and are not violent sand-dwelling retards like the surrounding arabs. what do we do about these people?
Bump for interest. isn't that guy from Mr Robot a copt?
Robert Peterson
Here's another example, a Lebanese Christian. The Lebanese are said to be able to trace their ancestry back to the ancient Phoenicians/Canaanites of Lebanon and Palestine, even before the time of Christ. Whether thats exclusive to Christians or not, I'm unsure, but they're another example of an ethnic minority in a region of sub-par arabs.
There's way too fucking many of these "faces of the Ancient Near East" in Moscow. If you're implying that they are somewhat more human then their darker shitskin brothers, then I have to disappoint you - most of them are still stupid and agressive savages (inb4 so are most Russians). Everyone, including them, would be better off if they just got the hell out of Russia proper and went back to fucking sheep in their mountain villages.
Those are chechens and dagestanis, not ancient Christian communities that refused to interbreed with their bedouin overlords
Liam James
Not exactly true. People have done genetic surveys and copts tend to have less sub-saharan and arabian DNA compared to muslim egyptians. However, there isn't some hard cutoff between copts and muslim egyptians. It's a spectrum on a bell curve.
Adam Nguyen
Weren't chechens decent until they all started turning to wahabi islam due to saudi influence in the 90s and radicalization during the chechen wars?
Logan Wilson
that's an interesting thread for once
Noah Ward
You're forgeting Kipchaks + nigger slaves. Muslim Egyptians are a genetic sewer.
Carson Nguyen
The Caucasians have always been radically violent raiders coming down from the hills. Google Kashka people who fought with the Hittites almost continuously throughout their history.
Imperial Russia and USSR especially fucked shit up by their population transfers.
Brody Richardson
Caucasus people in general have never been decent. They and Jews were the two main ethnic groups behind the Bolshevik revolution. And most of organized crime in Russia and the post-Soviet area is comprised of them as well.
Well, I don't know about Copts and such, but Armenians, who are technically Christians, are as bad or maybe even worse than Chechens. Chechens, Dagestanis and others are just angry apes. Armenians are somewhat smarter (though still stupid), but their level of ethnic nepotism is humongous. If there a single Armenian hired in any kind of organization, you can be sure that he will do everything to bring his entire fucking tribe there at the expense of everyone else.
All in all, the Caucasus people manage to combine the worst traits of both Jews and niggers.
Juan Peterson
Middle easterners are more or less the same, those people have been farming and have had high population densities for thousands of years meanwhile the Arabian peninsula was too sparsely populated to replace the people of that region because they were living in the Stone Age until 50 years ago
That’s why “Arabs” have different appearances in different regions. Syrians and Lebanese are relatively light skinned
You also have to consider that migration wasn’t just from Arabia but also Europe and where Europeans had established kingdoms like in North Africa and the Levant you’ll find blue eyes and blonde hair occasionally
But in my opinion, the “original” people’s of the Middle East were a little lighter than they are today.
Assyrians, Samaritan, and Copts to a certain extent are lighter on average when looking at pictures of large groups of them
Jose Scott
Imperial Russia did a pretty good job at kicking the shit out of them, but its misfortune was that, unlike Western Europeans, who colonized niggers behind seas, Russians colonized niggers in their immediate vicinity. So, when the empire collapsed, the savages literally conquered it. In Europe, this thing with primitive peoples overruning former colonial powers is happening now, in Russia, it happened a century earlier. That's not the sole factor behind the Russian revolution, for sure, but one of the major ones.
Jayden Hall
Are you people on crack? I'm talking about the Near East. That means from Egypt to Iraq, Iran at the very most East if you want to stretch it. Why are you posting retarded mountain muslims from the caucusus and central asia? They have nothing to do with Egyptians and Lebanese.
Zachary Sullivan
Agreed. But there's also the cultural side of it as well. Middle Eastern Christians tend to be very forthcoming about their ancient ancestry, and are just as proud to be Pharaonic Egyptians, Phoenicians, Assyrians/Arameans etc. as Greeks are with the ancient Greeks. Meanwhile most arab muslims have anything ranging from aloof to disdain for the pre-Islamic middle east. I think Middle Eastern Christians are more like Greeks or Jews than like 'arabs', at least culturally.
Tyler Walker
Again man this thread wasn't created for Caucus people. I included Armenians because they came from Turkey originally which is 'technically' in the Near East. Don't extend that to Georgians, Azeris, and central asian mongolians, this is a subject about the Middle Eastern Christians.
Logan Flores
Not true man. Muslim Egyptians are a worse melting pot than the US. They have black african, berber, arab, 'nubian', and some copt in them. The Copts of Egypt are far less mixed and don't look like your typical nafri nafri.
Brayden Clark
They have as much to do with Egyptians and Lebanese as Poles have to do with the English or French. That's the same civilization and similar cultures, even if some of them happen to be non-Muslim, they all used to be parts of the Ottoman empire, and they do belong to the similar racial type. And there's not a single photo of a Central Asian person in the thread (which is not to say that Central Asians are any better).
James Barnes
Well the Greek part made sense but not Jewish, Greeks were all over the Middle East until about WWI.
And these days middle eastern Christians are mostly assimilated into Arab culture and don’t speak whatever language they spoke as their first language in the past like Greek and Aramaic and consider themselves Arab
Of course there are differences between Arab Muslims and Arab christians particularly those that were not even really Arab a century or two ago, so any middle eastern Christian can spare me the chimpout for saying you guys are similar to Arabs nowadays
ITT: Claims without any scientific citations >The Copts of Egypt are far less mixed Citation needed.
And they do look similar to NorthWest Africans. >because they were living in the Stone Age until 50 years ago You're an idiot if you really think that.
>you’ll find blue eyes and blonde hair occasionally Wrong. Those features are very rare.
>But in my opinion, the “original” people’s of the Middle East were a little lighter than they are today. If anything they were a little darker before the Crusader rapes.
Copts are darker, you retard. You have no idea what you're talking about. Egyptian Muslims mixed with refugees from the Caucasus like the Circassians, making them lighter. An easy example are Egyptian actors. Almost every light skin, colored eyes ones are Muslim or of Muslim heritage.
Armenians aren't Middle Eastern, they are Caucasian group. Lebanese in general are closest to Phoenicians.
Arabians are probably the most pure Ancient Middle Easterners, because they did not mix much with foreigners as the Arabian peninsula had fewer migrants than the rest of the Middle East. So your attempt to sideline Arabians is retarded. They are the prime example of Ancient Middle East phenotype, along with Mandaneans and other less known groups.
>It also makes sense that these communities are the most successful diaspora, especially Leb Christians, Kek. You're idiotic. Turks and Persians are the most successful diaspora. Lebanese Christians aren't.
Luke Young
>the Muslims have extremely high African admixture. You can't read a simple blog post. It doesn't claim they have high admixture, just that they have more but it is still small.
Muslim Egyptians have more white Caucasian admixture and more European admixture because of Ottoman era. This makes Middle Eastern Muslims more white than the Middle Eastern Christians.
Julian James
>Meanwhile most arab muslims have anything ranging from aloof to disdain for the pre-Islamic middle east. Imagine being this stupid. Pre-Islamic Arabian poetry is seen as the highest form of Arabic poetry by Muslim Arabians and it is put over the Kaaba (that black cube in Mecca).
South Arabians love Balqees and their pre-Islamic heritage like the Dam they have on many insignia.
>but not Jewish The Middle East always had far more Jews than Christians. I mean without the Jews, the Greeks wouldn't have thrown out their ancient culture and religion for Christianity.
Michael Rogers
>t. butthurt muslim
Eli Cox
t. Amerimutt Christcuk with no ancient history
Keep worshiping Jews.
Carson White
Whoever you are thank you, the majority of this thread was literal feces.
