Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission

>makes food
>butthurt about ghey
>ghey come in to buy food
why are these idiots even selling food outside their klan kampground

Why are gays trying to purchase cakes from the klan?

The same state commission that fined the cake shop permitted another cake shop to refuse to write anti-divorce bible verses on a wedding cake.

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Colorado is where the libertarian party was founded. Proud to see this man fighting back against them for his right of free association and free expression.

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also, freedom of association.

These same arguments were tried and failed to stop desegregation.

Asked to comment "on his region's state of mind and any specific American attitudes he feels are necessary to avoid violence and bring healing in a deteriorating situation following the Supreme Court school desegregation order," Robertson stated:

Virginia recognizes the correctness of the 1850 decision of the Massachusetts Supreme Court and in the 155 subsequent decisions of State and Federal courts holding that the equal rights provision of a constitution could be properly satisfied by public schools for the white and colored races which are separate but equal.

During the last 10 years notable progress has been made in the Southern States in meeting that equality requirement. But that progress will be nullified by a program of rapid, enforced desegregation. In fact, public education for both races in some Southern States would be destroyed.

The worst feature of the current desegregation effort, however, is the resulting bitterness and racial animosities in areas where harmony heretofore prevailed. Southerners believe that the cherished constitutional right of every citizen to select his personal associates is being violated.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absalom_Willis_Robertson

(Pat Robertson's Dad)

>fags can't buy cake from cake shop
>butthurt about cake shop
>instead of just going to another cake shop they cry to the gubberment

thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

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Because they did not enter that bakery to be a good faith customer, but rather to harass the bakery for a political purpose. The customers in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case had no idea the baker was a Christian who did not believe in gay marriage when they entered his store.

If we have free markets it will engender pseudo-ethnostates naturally, and no one will have to be made poor from socialism to achieve it.

I really wish faggots and Jews would stop abusing the legal system and just get on with their lives. What the fuck is wrong with them? Grow up.

Thats right. Im going to get someone to make me a cake with a swastika on it.

I really wish evangelical Christians would stop abusing the legal system to harm people who don't think like they do. What the fuck is wrong with them? Grow up.

Reminded me of this scene

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Well, maybe faggots shouldn't be going to Klan compounds for their shopping needs.

File a suit then, fag. I've filed pro se in court before and so can you. Evangelical Zio-Christians can suck mutilated Jew cock for all I care.

why they didn't just mix spit, piss and jizz in the cake i'll never understand.

desegregation is a meme attempt at forced integration. Over time look at what really happens -- every race resegregates among their own -- there's nothing inherently wrong or hateful about this, these are just natural. Sure there's intermixed associations but as time goes on they are more of an exception than a norm on the grand scale.

Australia already HAD non discrimination laws in place prior to adopting gay marriage. So that's a different situation. Again, only good faith customers count towards these laws. If you enter a business to ask for an item that is deliberately provocative with the goal of harassing or subduing the business, then yes, they can refuse service. That was NOT the case with Masterpiece. That said there was a California case I believe about a supermarket or bakery, I forget which, being told they had to serve customers who entered in nazi regalia. Some jurisdictions DO consider political beliefs a protected class, but that varies.

>not baking a cake for someone is harming them

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>people who dont think like they do
Gotta be bait

Yeah, service refusals are a form of harm. That's why they are legislatively banned. I can't refuse to bake a wedding cake because someone is Christian, on a federal basis in the US.

A majority of Muslims support gay marriage. Only Mormons and White evangelicals still oppose gay marriage.

That's what pisses me off. Why the fuck would they want to give money to a bigot? Entitled faggots are wasting the fucking Supreme Court's time.

Then all Civil Rights legislation should be repealed (in addition to the 14th-19th Amendments)

>A majority of Muslims support gay marriage.
troll

Every sphere where ethnic integration can’t be forced (places of worship, residential areas largely, friendships/marriages) racial separatism is the norm. Where the federal government can force integration (government jobs/military, public schools) racial integration is the norm. Racial integration is propped up.

So getting butt hurt that someone refused you and filimg a lawsuit and contancting several newsagencies isnt trying to deliberately harrass. I just want my Swastika cake - i wont sue for it

>If there were freedom of association there would be no need for an ethno state I feel. There would be no forced intergration. I think arguing for freedom of association is much much easier for the Alt right than an ethno State
That's more or less Jared Taylor's belief. If the demographics can be controlled and complete freedom of association, it would be a system of voluntary segregation.
Most of the country is already segregated into enclaves and neighborhoods anyway despite decades of state-funded social experiments

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I thought the cake shit wasn’t even about the gay issue. They asked them to decorate something stupid and the bakers refused. Still were willing to make a regular cake. Seems perfectly fine to me and I’m a liberal. But don’t cry like a bitch if the reverse happens to your people.

prri.org/research/emerging-consensus-on-lgbt-issues-findings-from-the-2017-american-values-atlas/

Most religious groups in the U.S. now support same-sex marriage, including overwhelming majorities of Unitarians (97%), Buddhists (80%), the religiously unaffiliated (80%), Jewish Americans (77%), and Hindus (75%). Roughly two-thirds of white mainline Protestants (67%), white Catholics (66%), Orthodox Christians (66%), and Hispanic Catholics (65%) also favor same-sex marriage. A slim majority of Muslims (51%) favor same-sex marriage, but only 34% are opposed; 15% offer no opinion on this issue.

A slim majority of Muslims (51%) favor same-sex marriage

A slim majority of Muslims (51%) favor same-sex marriage

A slim majority of Muslims (51%) favor same-sex marriage

Fags and their kike lawyers go to every bakery until they're refused service so they can sue the bakery into oblivion

>it's foolish, hateful, and impractical
lol

They simply filed a complaint with the state to my knowledge. They were upset. You would be too.

Oh no, freedom of association will be returned whatever will we do

Too bad we've been overrun with spics and Californians. All of the resort towns have been packed with rich liberals, this state is slipping away

Nope. You he didn’t not sell them a cake. He did not participate in an event that violates his religious beliefs. It’s easy to understand if you are in a nation with religion.

>The customers in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case had no idea the baker was a Christian who did not believe in gay marriage when they entered his store.
Bullshit

No I wouldn't. I'd just go do a different store. Do these people have nothing better to do with their time than file complaints with the state and dress up like freaks and have sex in the middle of the street all the time?

Maybe they need to see a doctor.

Freedom of association automatically creates ethnic centric neighborhoods

>race is skin deep

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Nice.

They genuinely didn't. The store was recommended to them by a family friend.

They had no idea the store was going to refuse service and the store did not exactly advertise their unwillingness to make wedding cakes for gays. Another issue was that when this took place gay marriage was not legal in Colorado, but now it is.

because it's highly profitable to do so.

>Everything in this picture is a cake.
genius

Isn’t that how it is already?

So instead of like
>uh... oh, uh, ok. Uh, sorry, do you know where we could get a good cake?
They were like
>REEEEEEE FILE COMPLAINTS OPRESSION HOMOPHOBES EVIL CHRISTIANS WE NEED NATIONAL ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE OVER HERE

Sounds like perfectly well-adjusted individuals to me.

With the exception of the 18th Amendment which has since been repealed, none of the amendments mentioned have anything to do with freedom of association as written. They have to do with how government treats citizens, not how citizens are to treat each other. It is an intentional misreading of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to suggest otherwise.

It does not matter he has a right to refuse on the basis that his work is free expression.
You can't force someone to decorate a cake in a way that goes against their religious beliefs.

Wait they got married in Massachusetts but they ordered a wedding cake in Colorado? How the fuck were they planning on transporting it all that way?

Article 2 and 7 of civil rights act of 1964

Nope. As a Christian i am used to discrimination and my religion tells me to be overjoyed when it happens.

Actually what is profitable is to refuse service to gays. These businesses that do so NEVER lose money. Even if they are fined or boycotted, they make 10x that money back in donations privately and they get FREE legal support from Liberty Counsel and the "Alliance Defending Freedom".

patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/04/26/anti-gay-pizzeria-that-got-846000-in-gofundme-support-in-2015-closes-for-good/

oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/10/sweet_cakes_by_melissa_bakery.html

Sweet Cakes supporters raised more than half a million dollars for the bakers. The Kleins, backed by the former White House counsel for George H.W. Bush, filed an appeal in April. Oral arguments are expected later this year.

Yes because gay marriage, at the time, was legal in Mass but not Co. They were going to have two separate ceremonies, one legal, one for local family and friends.

The CRA of 1964 is not an amendment to the US Constitution. Both Title II and Title VII are flagrantly unconstitutional.

Businesses that are open to the public have severely limited freedom of association due to civil rights laws. The bakers are complaining that their punishment under the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act violated their First Amendment rights. I think the case will hinge on whether commissioned art is an expressive act protected by the 1st or a service covered by anti-discrimination laws. The baker's aren't arguing they should be allowed to refuse service entirely to fags, but that baking a wedding cake is an act of speech informed by their religious beliefs.

I know, misread your comment

Hurrr durrrrr...you wielded a cake in the lord's name-
see how ridiculous that looks?

Jews are programmed to bitch and manipulate. Its apart of their DNA.

Also a part of their early life conditioning, which includes circumcision trauma.

Dammit, so it’s basically not a challenge to articles 2 and 7 of the civil rights act of 1964?

The Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional to begin with.

They never even got to the point of discussing what would be on the cake, so that issue didn't come up in the court case so far.

So fucking based, cannot wait for whites only school

youtube.com/watch?v=nxVYKcVUhDk

>privite school
>privite neighborhood

what the fuck is the problem here, Nipper?

Correct. The CRA wasn't ruled to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation until 2017 anyway.

No, but a wedding cake is for celebrating a marriage.

Colorado has its own separate non discrimination law. This isn't about federal law.

I know, that's what I said senpai

The federal government and supreme court don't actually deserve any authority here. This is a state matter. Involving the Fed is a violation of the 10th Amendment.

The state decided that he was in violation of their laws...

Could you imagine if states decided if they wanted to enforce discrimination laws or not...

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What? You have values and beliefs? How dare you not serve me and my mighty dollar! What do you mean there's other cakeshops?!

So why is the case not being fought in a state superior court and is being taken to the supreme court? If he loses this is yet another assault on state autonomy. Let's not pretend like the Federal government doesn't love trying to grow, either. Gay marriage was yet another assault on the 10th.

Faggots are the new ambulance chasers, looking for people who won't serve the new class of Faggot Aristocrats.

It was appealed repeatedly by the Christians who hate gays. All the rulings so far have favored the gay couple.

Surveys are a pretty fucking retarded form of evidence as we had repeatedly seen in the last couple years when analytics peddlers got blown the fuck out.

Except when those surveys make gays look bad, then you post them everywhere and you don't need to question the validity of the data :^)

This isn't something which is really open for appeal or debate. The Federal government is enforcing unconstitutional measures upon the states to force them to adapt policies which were never voted upon. I don't actually have anything against gay people other than the hedonistic degenerate culture that permeates out of it and a simple critique that they could try to act normal - this is the discussion of the law in ways which it is intended.

As an example, nobody is going to force the Amish to allow faggots to run a parade through their villages because it is a breach upon their own freedom to associate as they will.

So it should be in all things. Anti discrimination laws are inherently bullshit.
Nice strawman you retarded faggot I didn't post a single survey in this thread.

Christian Baker who didn't want bake a cake because God hates fags.

As another example, the Bill of Rights were considered to be human rights universal to everybody even if it wasn't the white founders responsibility to provide them to other nations. They viewed slavery as abominable and appealed to the states each individually to vote to resign it which was the way this was always intended to work. Abraham Lincoln violated the freedom of states to decide for themselves by acting to the contrary and forcing them all to make it illegal at once - ignorant to the economic implications involved and led us into a catastrophic civil war.

Fags being able to sully words such as marriage and matrimony that are obviously intended toward procreation that fags can't do and sanctified by churches that fags aren't apart of isn't exactly as important of a discussion as slavery but that's just how degenerated America has become in terms of bending knee to the overly large federal government.

You're a fucking morning if you think Muslims don't want to kill every fucking fag they can. They don't do it in the west cause they know they won't get away with it like they do in the shitholes they come from.

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finally, a decent thread.

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Didn't the baker lose the case?

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It's ongoing.

> If people don’t want blacks to go to a private school or neighborhood then that’s going to be perfectly legal.
and? They would be turning down customers. No buisness worth its salt would turn down customers. Should they be allowed to? Absolutely it their business after all.

businesses dont have to serve trump supporters
>its not a religion
businesses dont have to serve homos
>its not a religion

Maybe because only a sociopath would actually do something like this?

This is why 2 bombs just wasn't enough.
You stupid fucking niggers know nothing about freedom. If I don't want to serve someone, I fucking won't. You realize that's basically fucking slavery you dumb nigger? If I'm forced to serve someone I don't want to?

Fucking someone else will move in and serve the fag because that's how a free market operates. Someone else will do it because they want the money that bad. This cake shop just didn't want the fags money that bad.

Japs are the dumbest fucking people I swear to god. Will you guys just attack pearl harbor again so we can drop another god damn bomb on you and finish the job?