Is Fallout NV the ultimate redpill?

>Caesar leads to Hegel
>Hegel leads to Nietzsche
>Nietzsche leads to Hitler
>Hitler leads to Rockwell
>Rockwell leads to Mason...

Is Fallout NV the ultimate redpill?

If you play Fallout NV properly (IE Talk/Join the Legion) after several conversations with Caesar you begin to understand his philosophy, which is heavily inspired by Hegel (which he even mentions). Caesar's Legion is basically a Post-Apocalyptic Fascist State (or is planned to be). Caesar is without a doubt one of the most interesting character's in the game, and I know more than a few people who have become fully redpilled by starting their journey with this game (Caesar's lessons) What are your thoughts?

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Eh, it's got a decent soundtrack

Animal Crossing, on the other hand, is a TRUE red-pilled game

It's addicting (granted I've only played the first) probably the most addicting game of all time, but how is it redpilled?

I've never heard of a more retarded interpretation of political and philosophical literature than the drivel that just oozed from your gaping mouth OP

Consider suicide and to the world a great honor by not having you exist anymore

Because your life has no meaning apart from paying back loans to (((Tom Nook))), granting housing extensions even if you don't have the money, trapping you in a perpetual cycle of work and debt.

Marx was also influenced by Hegel.

>he mentions Hegel
>muh radpil vydia
have you even read Hegel? Hegelians are an absolute determinators, Caeser only larped as a Roman Emperor. youre stupid as fuck.

This
Fallout 2 is, what do you think iguana on a stick is

truly a game worth playing.

fallout 1 and 2 were better than any bethshit fps

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Did you play NV?

>x is influenced by someone

>therefor y is bad

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Always bet on the House.

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So ive been thinking about it lately but the characteristics of fallout 4 are representative of all the religions. Think about it
>Institute=jews
Synthetic people determined to impose their will on others
>Railroad= christians
Retarded and willing and ignorant at their own expense
>Brotherhood= muslims
Xenophobic homocidal militants
> Minute men= pagan satanists
Just want to live the way we should

Ehhh Id rather just move to the canyon DLC and start up a true christian starchild tribe then follow dead culture. Caesar has no claim to the american soil. The legion is demonic pagans invoking tyranny with no mercy or love for the common man. They will never conquer the hearts of the people and thus never truly control the region. The Ncr is too corrupt as a remnant of modern "democracy" with secularism failing to unite the factions. The casino gangs too wicked and drug infested. All of them are clinging to buildings that they can't restore as 24/7 electricity won't exist in real life fallout. Caesar recognizes that and exploits it as a societal weakness that allows them to conquer and crucify innocent townsfolk deemed unenslavable who won't willingly bend the knee to tyrant Caesar. The legion doesnt guard the roads very well either. Why pay tribute if they don't deliver. Self sufficiency is the true red pill.

Anyone who likes fallout 3 can go fuck themselves. Fuck Todd Howard.

How does Nietzsche even lead to Hitler tho

The Legion is by far the best faction but has the least amount of content so I have never done a playthrough with them.

So much better, but so much more difficult to enjoyably replay. If NV had enough time to be an actual game or if van buren was real, either one could be the greatest human invention

it's a shitty 8 year old video game you fags fuck off to your containment board

how old are you

>isometric turn based battle
>limited time frame before game over
kek no thanks. take off your rose tinted glasses

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Yes actually, Caesar wants to reset the entire Mojave, if not the United States because:

>The New California Republic is a repeat of the Corrupt United States Government from Pre-War Time
>Mr. House represents an unstable dictatorship that in Caesar's eyes, is just there to promote more degeneracy such as chems (drugs), prostitution, despondency and gambling
>The Brotherhood of Steel, while noble in their quests, are only looking out of themselves, and want to continue to use the same technology that lead to the destruction of the United States, if not the world
>Yes Man, yeah put your trust in technology again, do it

We don't see what he did in Arizona, but it's becoming Rome. Technology is being reset, moral standards are being reset (Veronica is a degenerate, Caesar's Legion isn't gay, a myth/propaganda by the NCR), and the Old World can finally be remade.

Currently in New Vegas in Hardcore Mode/Very Hard, listening to every conversation. I'm about to go into Dead Money and actually "listen" to Father Elijah. While he is insane, he does show good points about wiping out the Mojave to start over.

Fallout 4 I think was damaging, it wanted to portray Synths as humans, almost how the Left wants to portray A.I as being "human". We're in a deadly game of fantasy being mixed with real life right now.

However this playthrough? Caesar's Legion, save Caesar, pray he delegates to a Congress or a leader other Lanius, and so on.

Oh yeah Hardcore/Very Hard? Doing an Explosives/Unarmed Build. Annabelle and Recompense of the Fallen are my weapons, fml when I get into DM though, the cloud is going to eat my alive.

Minute men worked with the railroad in past lore according to dialogue. Why would they be pagan satanists?
They are just american patriots reviving the forefathers spirit of revolution amd colonization. Another settlement needs your attention. ...


If anything that would be the dlc raiders enslaving traders.

Fallout 2 is the best western RPG of all time and there is no time limit, bitch. Period.

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You are swine

>limited time frame before game over
I am so sick of this gay meme. You have a time limit for one fucking main quest, and it disappears for the remaining 90% of the game

Damn straight brother! Fucking wastes of space. The lot of them.

> wants to enslave....ftfy

The thing is though Caesar has no reason to care about the common man. Why would you when most of the wasteland is degenerate tribals that would kill you soon as look at you? The only “good” towns in the Mojave are Goodsprings, Primm, and Novac. But even then, Caesar just proves his point. He exploits the weaknesses and uses it against them. Jeanie May, The Mayor of Nipton, just to name a few, betrayed their people and sold them out to the legion. There is no loyalty or anything holding together these post apocalyptic communities, and Caesar sees that, so he just destroys them.

Fallout 2 is the best fallout

>this game wasn't completely finished
>whole sections of the main story had to be cut
>you will never play the game NV was meant to be

tragic, truly tragic

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Hooman flesh

could never ally with them even when i wanted to because they’re massive gaping cunts to everyone and everything.

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Sided with House on my first play-through, what does this say about me?

That was fallout 1

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How do I upvote this comment?

I love Obsidian games,one of the few developers who still care about their games

Who cares, fallout 4 is fucking dogshit. Nuka world is abysmal, far harbor is decent but puts the rest of the game to shame so you don’t want to go back ever

Wasn't a big fan of supporting cannibals. About the only thing I didn't like about the legion, besides all of the niggers.

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The legion and the ncr are kinda the same only with different values. The NCR isn’t on some fast track to destruction. All civilizations collapsed, the pre war american one did but not because of anyones mistake.

Are there mods that make it more like NV?

It all leads back to kikes

At the very least NV should have been a stepping stone to what every RPG should have taken from and improved on. Instead they churn out setback after setback.
Feel like I fucked up big time by even playing it. Now everything feels linear as fuck, thus stale and boring.

you may be into something. I used to play the shit out of this game and now I hate jews.

Yeah there’s some mods that add skills and expand the dialogue so you know what your retarded character is saying, but other than that the game is just a loot grind. There’s some overhaul mods but nothing will ever fix the main issue with the game, and thats the story, unless someone REALLY wanted to fix that. Honestly I only play it for FROST

So why would a player want to serve him? Taxation without representation. Only money keeps the towns united. Caesar is fueled by war which is ultimately unsustainable as all empires inevitably fail. Only fear keeps his subjects loyal. Insurrection and assassination is the fate which then splinters caesars control by regional coup.

This guy gets it. Bravo.

Yes, slavery is horrible, forcing your will is horrible, but think about it? The NCR will doom the United States to repeating the same mistakes the Pre-War US Gov't made. For arguement sake I'll relegate it to just the NCR vs Legion.

I think the Legion is something most would agree with if they didn't have the Slavery bit. I don't agree that Caesar should be a "god" like he considers himself the child of Mars, but the idea of getting rid of technology like:

>Nukes
>Sentry Bots
>Vertibirds
>Energy Weapons
>Power Armor
>Ballistic Armor
>Fat Mans
>anything else in the fucking wasteland that is basically a portable nuclear weapon but handheld in some form

Think about it? We woke up tomorrow and hideously mutated "people" walked around eating other humans? Yeah we won't have Super Mutants, Mariposa isn't on that level yet, and FEV isn't something that actually exists (or maybe..), we'd still be disgusted by it. If the entire fucking United States Power Grid went down, mass anarchy would follow and the only thing that would work is if large groups of people got together to re-establish themselves. But that is just the problem for Caesar, if groups of people got together to re-establish themselves, then they would mimic the old world, specifically the NCR repeating Pre-War United States.

It would be a cycle, a roundabout for Americans over and over and over again. Caesar being there, his presence in the Mojave and what he has done in Arizona and New Mexico? Is a break in that cycle. I think the Legion needs to continue on, but needs to shed a few of it's ideals first.

>Pax Romona, if modernization destroyed mankind, then reset it back thousands of years to make sure it never does it again, or if it does, it would take thousands of years to do so

Yeah only thing I liked was being able to mod on consoles and forge mode. Built so many new places at unmarked but epic locations.

But I like Fallout 4. It may have shitty story, but that's not important. What's really important is open world, modding and HUGE potential for roleplay. Pretty much like Skyrim. Shitty story, shitty quest lines (literally all of them), but huge potential for roleplay.

Fallout 2 is cool too. For 90's. Now it's shitty low quality game. Great for nostalgic playthrough, but that's about it.

FO2 ftw

That’s because Tom Nook was a Jew.

New Vegas is not Bethesda. And Obsidian is former Interplay.

They would be pagans or satanists specificly because they are reviving their forefathers spirits in effort to live a free and natural life. They could work with the railroad and be indifferent to their cause because they dont cause a significant threat if not for the institute

Lol no. The House always Wins. Capitalist paradise with an intelligent being with 200+ years of life experience and knowledge at the helm.

Well said, this is why I love the Legion, their political philosophy is very well written, and is actually applicable to Modern Society.

skyrim is 10x better than fallout 4 m8. story too.

The problem with fallout 4 though is there is honestly no replay value and nothing you do at all matters. The settlement system is pointless and while I honestly love making settlements they aren’t really functional and only make the player think they’re doing something.

Dood, I've great news for ya. Fallout 4: New Vegas is under development.
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house is for pussies

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I bet Mr House is more well versed in latin language than imposter Caesar. Rome is a continent away and those illiterate lackeys burn every book they get upon conquering towns.

>Explosives/Unarmed Build
Most fun build possible. You get to punch shit which is great and the greatest weapon in the game uses explosives skill

Oblivion is 100x better than Skyrim, just saying...

I SAW A MUDCRAB THE OTHER DAY

The NCR are both states restoring order and law where they control. None is really better than the other it just comes down to taste. The pre war US didn’t really make a ton of mistakes, the war was just the logical end of two empires grown as much as they could fighting over the last bit of resources. They just destroyed each other. This wasn’t due to any inherent fault in the us or in china.

Agreed, but skyrim is like 1000 years away in the cyclical timeline of reality so not relevant to our generation's survival. Gotta go through the nuclear fallout before nature can bloom again. Revelation to an exodus. But anyway west coast best coast. FO1, 2, NV.

Same thing as when people say the original Galactic Empire is "evil". No actually it's not. If the constant threat of nuclear was loomed over your head, and you saw how the people in power wanted to replicate the ideas of an old failed Government thinking: "We can do better", then yeah you'd wage war on them because they look like the evil ones, not you.

I found myself almost being hypnotized by Caesar, the music that plays when you first enter his tent, compared the somber atmosphere of The Fort. Christ Avallone and Josh Sawyer knew exactly what they were doing with the Legion, and how giving you 4 distinct options wasn't just a go here and kill this, but a mental and psychological battle between what you think is right and wrong.

Fallout New Vegas, is the best Fallout. Lonesome Road with Ulysses explaining everything to you is sheer redpill material. Also how the Tunnelers existed before the bombs fell, which is why the US Military had so many bases there makes you wonder why Ulysses says the battle for Hoover Dam is pointless, because the Tunnelers would find their way to the Mojave and destroy it. Again, so many mysterious, so much debate from a single video game that has so many ethical and social questions to it, is insane.

>Rockets Red Glare yo
I added Small Frame to my punishment, level 8 and I want to die. Dehydration would be a sweet release from all the Vipers fucking blowing my limbs to shit with Grenade Rifles.

So, while we here. Do you think Caesar is /ourguy/? Based af and all that?

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Christ? meant Chris but in the case either or is right.

Caesar’s legion are delusional fools, house and yes man are the ultimate red pills. House wants to colonize the stars, talking about how he’s force humanity to rebuild and shape up, meanwhile yes man helps you become your own man building a legacy of your own.

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Responsibility is gay as fuck, House actually has deep ties to the strip and cares about it. He's unironically the Nativist choice.

Thats essentially what they are. They hate the synths and institute. They don't create diety worship or idols. The forefathers spirit of liberty amd justice for all is something to be admired. E pluribus unum.

this

We can all agree Joshua graham is our guy.

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Deus Ex is the ultimate redpill

>Not realizing supermutants are just recolored lawless cannibal niggers.
Top kek

>Rockets Red Glare
no, fag

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Also Arcanum to some extent if you want a same like FO1/2

Pffftttt red rocket glare, I’d rather have my good old anti material rifle or even Graham’s a light shining in the darkness, the fucking holy pistol.

democracic socialism fighting communist socialism destroyed the planet. of course it is

Well New vegas’s Smartest character house even explains how democracy failed. Democracy will always devolve and needs war for a unified front.

>play fallout 1 for the first time
>leave vault
>fight rat
>you missed
>you missed
>you missed
>you were hit for 1 hit point
>you missed
>you were hit for 4 hit points
>uninstall.exe

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honestly I like using maria
for a bigger gun i use the assault carbine
taking it from benny after tracking him across the mojave is nice af

Do you want the big RED pill cause its very hard to swallow(?)

If you mean an illuminati corrupt templar allegory for how we in present day can prevent a transhumanist agenda from enslaving us before fallout takes place then sure. (((Eidos))) knew the twin towers would be gone. They didnt add them to a 2d backdrop because muh disk memory issues supposedly. Like the most iconic part of the nyc 1999 skyline was censored coincidentally. How many static pixels does it take. How much disk memory does a patrolling npc require vs a scenery. Deus ex is satanic false prophecy. It wont come to be reality. Nuclear fallout is however.

That's literally my story.

Oh the "So Long Chang!", I like Mercy, will be using it, but endgame is Rockets Red Glare. Annabelle is midgame though.

Christines CoS, with Finnesee, Better Critcals, .308 Match Loads, Elite Riot actually tops the damage, and again in Hardcore Mode, ammunition has weight, even with Pack Rat, it's a bitch and you have to regulate what you take. But yes, the Light shinneth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not is absolutely patrician.

Also who else obsessed with the Riot Gear/Advanced/Elite Riot Gear? Trench Coats as standard battle dress is absolutely based.

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True, Maria is beautiful but a shining light in the darkness just really activated my sense of cleansing the wasteland not to mention I never drop the scripture Joshua gives you.

I’m sorry you had to go through that sweetie maybe you could play some call of duty instead I think you’d like that and it’d be easy enough for you to learn.

underage leave

This.

Say what you say you if you would had to be born on the lowest class of any these factions, you would all choose NCR

Elite riot gear = most expensive durable armor in all of fallout. Plus night vision so fuck yes but no one and I mean no one can forget the stealth suit, now she’s a keeper.

End your life nigger.

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Hell fucking no, NCR is practically a failing nation, I’d definitely listen to house.

>makes a character that cant do shit
>grrrr why is this RPG based around my stats

>people are like this

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Honestly the more intelligent you are the better your fallout experience by that I mean prioritizing intelligence and charisma as well medicine, science, speech, and barter.

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i just really liked the ranger outfits especially because they descended from Texans I never took it off once I got it besides replacing it with the lonesom road version.

I'm 24, dood. You're so quick to judge. My first time playing Fallout 1 was then I was 15 y.o. or something.