Dear athiests of Jow Forums: Where do your morals/ethics come from?

>every Greek and Roman was Aristotle

>I’m older than you, therefore there is no need for you
Hmmm

>Classical thinkers who aren't Aristotle matter

Inherently knowing right from wrong

Kind of makes me want to make a virgin Aristotle vs chad Plato comic

>christian values
and
>whatever is ultimately bad for the species as a whole is "morally" wrong

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Common sense.

It's also pretty funny to be 100% truthful in social interactions.

I inherently know that there is a god. Checkmate atheists.

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from consciousness

Philosophy, natural revelation and the laws of reciprocity and cause & effect.

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Society norms. Now fuck off.

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If you think you need christianity or whatever in order to act "moral" while being intelligent enough to see it's not literally true, you're a fucking idiot anyway. The whole divine threat and reward nonsense only makes sense if you believe it to be true. Here's the kicker though: if you were god and your people only were acting good because they're afraid to get punished or want a reward and wouldn't act like that if it wasn't for you, maybe they aren't that good. The enlightened atheist on the other hand who acts good despite not being subject to threats is someone you would want in heaven, because he isn't like a dog you constantly have to watch and when you don't he starts stealing your cookies.

I for one think the only reason I need for being a nice guy is that it's in my own rational selfinterest to be selfless, because the more people are good the better life becomes.

Jean Pierre's angry you called him out, just let him cheat on his white gf and convert to islam

Being cooperative produces better long-term outcomes and reduces stress from thinking about what enemies you are making. Chimp alphas who eat baby chimps and rip their enemies eyes out have super high cortisol levels, and are very frequently killed by their competitors. I still engage in white lies and such when its not too serious. Also I believe (but can't prove) that I am fundamentally part of the whole universe (in a sort of panpsychist sense) and as such don't want to hurt myself by causing unnecessary harm to 'other' sentient beings. Though I also believe that suffering is an illusory reflex of the brain which repels us from situations which harm our chances of living and propagating our genes. Our brain then rationalizes this reflex as being something objective to the situation, as opposed to what it really is: an avoidance behaviour. Proof: can you think of any better definition of suffering than that which we wish to avoid? As such I believe I have an obligation, in a situation where I can transfer suffering from others to myself, to do so, as I can process the suffering in a different mental framework. Of course this only applies for minor inconveniences, as the reflex can't really be overcome without changing brain circuitry/chemistry.

Virgin Plato
>regularly gets BTFO by a homeless furry
>gets satirized in popular dramas
>mentor was forced to self-pwn
>writes down elaborate scripted discussions where he executes calculated takedowns of people more articulately than he ever could irl
>successors use his stupidass form theory to rationalise transexualism
Chadistotle
>summoned by the greatest power of his day to personally tutor one of the greatest leaders in human history
>Too alpha to be challenged by the plebs
>resurrects his conquered city
>no dialogues or personally written records of any kind, only lecture notes desperately scribbled down by peons struggling to follow his effortless understanding of the universe
>Successors continue to dominate the philosophical landscape to this day

Why Satan of course

>atheists, where do your morals come from?
Out of their bums whenever it suits them. Atheism is confusion, a lack of wisdom, the inability to cope with a specific subject. If you can't do spirituality it's just like not being able to read, and you are missing out on the most important part of life.
Most of us were atheists until we woke up (thank God) so don't think we don't know you. We know exactly what's going on in your head so stop bluffing us and bluffing yourselves. And tidy your rooms up to.

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Oh wow so edgy.

fucking faggot.

from the Talmud and New Testament

Common sense leads people to believe in God. Humanity's default setting is theism. It's something you have to think yourself out of rather than into.

Christian morals are morals. All of the pre-Christian attempts at rationalizing morality were getting closer and closer to what Jesus would eventually set out definitively. Christianity is inherently rational.

>if you were god and your people only were acting good because they're afraid to get punished or want a reward and wouldn't act like that if it wasn't for you, maybe they aren't that good
Rational thinkers have concluded that objective morality more or less exactly resembles what God expects from us. If you live your life in perfect accordance with the Categorical Imperative I don't think God would be that disappointed in you. Barbarians tremble in fear of God, patricians stand in awe.

>The enlightened atheist on the other hand who acts good despite not being subject to threats is someone you would want in heaven
How many atheists are truly good? Good behaviour is rational behaviour. Rational thought and a striving truth will naturally bring you to God.

>like a dog you constantly have to watch and when you don't he starts stealing your cookies.
God doesn't stop watching. Talking about a hypothetical God-less Christian is a waste of time.

>I for one think the only reason I need for being a nice guy is that it's in my own rational selfinterest to be selfless, because the more people are good the better life becomes.
If you're truly being nice that's true. But there's nice and then 'nice'. It's very hard to know the right way on your own. The gate is narrow and the path is straight.

Hah, atheists are pussies scared of death, of eternal nothingness

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>getting your morals from a kike religion

wew

Every atheist I served with broke down in prayer when we came under fire.
Literally edgy pussies

Rastafarianism

T. Retard who projects

Your inability to cope with reality is what makes you a retard who believes in god.
Tell me why you just so happened to pick the religion you know the most about

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>look mein doggo
>a jude
I'll make sure to piss on you when I go to heaven, infidel.

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Multiple studies show Atheism is on the decline. Only moth beathers believe this is all some cosmic accident. Christianity is going no where, it is the only truth. Not as a religion, but as a faith. In the end times Christians will be mocked and persecuted. Athiests in general are really morons, as literally everything points to a creator, not rediculous hypothesis like evolution.

>this thread again

go to youtube, look up Matt Dillahunty Secular Morality
have fun, wish this thread would stop being made, but i guess its something people seem to struggle with for some reason.

Install a spell checker, you mouth breather.

Same place yours does. Difference is I actually understand the true origin.

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Not from a fucking book made up of bronze age desert dweller fairy tales that's for sure.

The rest of us grew out of our imaginary friends when we got older

I grew into theism.

My what? The weaknesses, you mean?

i wonder how humans managed not to rape each other to death before inventing a sky daddy, or how animals nowadays can coexist with only instincts to guide their actions

srsly, if the only reason you're not going around murdering people is cause of "muh objective morality" you're a fucking psycho

Not from a kike on a stick who lived over 2k years ago
The Christian moral is literally: if you suck nigger dicks, you win!

Do you even know why that is? Muslims are pumping babies out like rabbits meanwhile everyone else's fertility rate is, for the most part, below replacement level. It's not like there is a great awakening happening, everyone else is just getting outbred by Islam.

Why aren't you going around murdering people?

Seeing as how I'm not an autistic sociopath I just use my conscience.

Ethical intuitionism, where do you get your color red from?

same place yours come from, empathy

Laws and physical weakness.

Fuck off faggot. Don't talk when adults debate

t. literally 10 year old kid who need a skydaddy to tell him what's wrong or right

Explain the existence of a conscience rationally. Do you think it just evolved by fluke, like consciousness, your voicebox, the ability to create language, our desire for truth, etc?

because I realize everyone only has one life to enjoy, so unless they pose a threat to someone else, it would be evil for me to take it from them

because i actually want humanity to thrive

cause i don't feel like going to jail

3 reasons i can think of, in that order

i bet you think sucking nigger dicks is winning

Where do you draw your standards of joy and evil from? And thriving?

From not being stupid

From being raised by christian parents in a christian country.

nice counter argument

At least thanks to that "sky-daddy" i know that teaching kids pedophilia is wrong. Now fuck off faggot. You deserve to die

from my own subjective experience, from empathy, from statistics and surveys, etc

not from ancient fictional texts

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That doesn't seem sound at all. This stuff is too important to play by ear.

>my religion teaches that pedophilia is wrong!
>says the catholic
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

>implying that any atheist who kill unborn child have a true empathy

Certainly not from this hack.

taoism.

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Wait, are you seriously retarded ? Becuase i really feel sorry for you. Becuase i never said that i'm a catholic. So, are you retarded ?

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taoism is the only way

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>implying that all atheists are pro choice

why? we evolved to have an excellent sense of empathy, we can read one another's emotions better than almost any other mammal, not to mention we have been passing moral values down generation after generation for millenia now.

"Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself" is something you learn as a kid (as long as your parents are decent people of course) without the need for religion or philosophy

Only idiots put blind faith in something that they can't even see or be sure of it's existence

Well. Most of them are

>Ignoring the fact that the majority of Christfags are Catholic which actively covered up child abuse

It all comes from the heart, user. If you've been paying attention, you'll see that their whole "feels > reelz" spiel is just a rhetorical appeal. In the case of morality, they fully embrace that their moral senses are primarily informed by subjective "passions" and "intuitions" - which is ultimately just another way of saying fee-fees. They'd be moral-nihilists if they weren't cowards.

>inb4 muh rationality
It's all post-hoc.

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I'm an agnostic atheist, and despise the idea of abortion
on the other hand, i know many religious folk who either had one or would condone one

Jesus never said that though

>implying that i'm even a christian

Thats good, but that doesn't change the fact that most of atheists are absolute degenerates that support abortion, fag pride and pornography

This

>Thats good, but that doesn't change the fact that most of atheists are absolute degenerates that support abortion, fag pride and pornography

That's because they're stupid leftists, not because they're atheists.

Nature.

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You don't need to believe all the ridiculous shit in the Bible to acknowledge that the ten commandments are preferable behaviors for European societies; obviously that doesn't guarantee the success of these concepts when applied to Africa or South America.

My brains ability to read a supposition and process it logically.

>we evolved to have an excellent sense of empathy
This Cult of Darwinism and English science got out of hand 100 years ago. At this point it's probably the most powerful religion in human history. It's a theory on the survival of genetics, not intelligent design. Do you really believe that incrementally better ability to read the emotions of others significantly increases survivability?

If you truly care about the nature of evolution and humanity I'd recommend reading Christopher Hallpike. Also try Noam Chomsky's book on the evolution of language to see just how little ground these people are still standing on today.

And if moral values passed down orally can work their way into your DNA that seems more like an endorsement of Lamarckian evolution than Darwinian.

>From you sam! You’re my greatest ally!

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IN ALL FIELDS

Atheists commit significantly less crime than religious people...

Kill yourself Christcuck

Nice wikipedia philosophy, m8

>a world where everyone stabs each other in the back at all times to gain maximum personal power
OR
>a world of mutual benefit where you can walk to the corner store with almost no chance of getting robbed or raped

hmmm gee i wonder what could possibly be the rationale for morality? why would people want peaceful neighborhoods and cooperation?

the immoral are basically retarded to common sense

No one tell this guy that people who follow christianity are the ones who make up the majority of abortions in america

christianliferesources.com/article/sobering-statistics-on-abortion-1437

You're a pantheist not atheist moron

Let's see you do better. Incorporate an easily understandable summary of the act/potency distinction into yours.

>perfect morality
>Bible dumb
Pick one