Why does nu-right get triggered by X million killed? I have no problem with it whatsoever, if at the end it brings us to a better society. Does pol agree that ends justify the means?
Why does nu-right get triggered by X million killed? I have no problem with it whatsoever...
Asher Carter
Aaron Peterson
Except Communism never works. I'm Chinese, trust me on this. The CCP is Communist in name only.
Asher Young
I am not talking about communism in particular. Imagine any abstract system which is better than ours. It is completely justified to kill X millions if it means that future generations will live in a much better society.
It is like saying communism is bad because Marx had an ugly beard. Yes, it is bad, but for a different reason.
Dylan Carter
>It is completely justified to kill X millions if it means that future generations will live in a much better society
That makes more sense when commies keep saying x country wasn't real communism. Marx called for a state of the world requiring states to kill their own citizens in massive numbers. Why anyone would support a transition to a shot system like communism is beyond me.
Jackson Howard
Sure you have no problem with it, you think your team is the one picking who gets killed. Oh boy are you in for a supprise.
A better society is not one in which all but the political classes are equal in poverty.
Blake Flores
Little onions-dicked faggots like you would be the first to REEEE bloody murder if it were ever decided that (You) had to be disposed of.
Charles Cox
>The ends of communism
>good
I guess you could make that argument if you could guarauntee good results.
But thats the joke, the good results never ever manifiest.
Ryder Allen
>citation needed
Jace Smith
It's just a reaction to the "Hitler was evil because of the number of people killed in WWII" meme. If that's what the standard for evil is then communism is objectively worse.
Jordan Perry
>Muh 100 gorillion
If Hitler couldn't gas 6 million Jews what makes you think communism would be this efficient?
Dominic Cooper
>ends justify the means?
Justification is a spook
Robert Clark
The bourgeois are terrified they might have to pay their fair share so they make up absurd statistics
Easton Richardson
I don't mind people being killed, but only if they are commies.
Noah Reyes
>efficient
No we aren’t saying that, we are saying communism is incompetent, and we all know incompetence kills, just look at all the starving black countries.
Jonathan Diaz
>Muh deaths from communism
So we'll just pretend captialism has led to World Peace?
Jace Jones
>Why does nu-right get triggered by X million killed?
Because it should of been X billion killed.
Angel Gonzalez
Based post.
As if I am against it. The advantage of being suicidal.
William Wright
Why is consensus important?
We have a majority already OP.
Yes, say whatever you want about Communism--as long as it is the truth--then people will not respect Communism.
Austin Lopez
>Little onions-dicked
did the cuck-birgin-basedboys revolt against the chad-onions?
Ayden Baker
>happy birthday Nietzsche
>say it : muh 600 millions
Hudson Walker
>ends justify the means
The end justifies the means if you're certain that the means are noble and can be achieved.
Thing is that IRL no one know what can or can't be done.
You don't know if your hypothesis works til you actually test it.
Lincoln Clark
You see the problem with communism is they're chasing the idea of a utopia a pursuit that always leads to dystopia
Levi Ortiz
communism does not equate freedom. its a form of a dictatorship
William Richardson
That's why "testing" is important. We tested communism, we tested european nationalism, libertarianism etc. But we shouldn't stop. If you declare that killing people is bad, even in a context of criticising communism, many potentially good ideas which involve killing people won't be tested.
Nolan Ward
Oh fuck off!
Benjamin Cox
Erm,
When talking about death-tolls, people often talk about non-combatants. If you have statistics on the civilian deaths from the western powers or want to talk about hiroshima/nagasaki, that is a separate argument than X amount of conscripted men died during Y war.
It is terrible that all of those men died, and I have wrestled quite a lot with the validity and value of compelled service -- however their deaths are a result a different premise.
You could theoretically have a mass-mobilized war with 1million dead soldiers with culturally acceptable civilian causalities. It is severely unlikely a scenario would play out that way, but the values instantiated by the preservation of military lives and the preservation of civilian lives are fundamentally different.
Brayden Rodriguez
Depends on your definition of freedom.
Carter Price
Also people who advocate communism act like there isn't a ruling class. Communism is an equalizer in the sense that it makes 99% of the population poor. there will always be millionaires and billionaires in communist systems
Juan Murphy
>lol, like why do you guys care about dying?
John Peterson
Isn't it great to be dead? Nothing to worry about.
Elijah Anderson
you don't actually believe this. you agree with the abstract concept, but if you were among the millions dying for "the greater good", i guarantee you wouldn't just be like OH WELL, EDGY 14 YEAR OLDS ONLINE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NECESSARY FOR PROGRESS SO IM NOT MAD :))))))
Jackson Thompson