In libertarian land this transaction is completely voluntary and thus moral

>in libertarian land this transaction is completely voluntary and thus moral

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legality and morality are distinct in the libertarian framework

In Libertarianistan there are no regulations or legal nonsense preventing someone else from setting up a stand 2 feet to his left selling the exact same thing for cheaper because free market. When the government creates monopolies through regulation don't be surprised when you get kiked to death

>I deserve free water because I'm dying
Communists everyone

Would still reach an equilibrium and be better than currently practiced theory

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In libertarian morality, “morality” is whatever you can get away with legally.

This is a ridiculous and unrealistic scenario.

no it's not and if you read e.g. rothbard he's really clear about making this point.

Kekd

>selling kids

not an argument

Libertarian ideology being fucking abysmally stupid is nothing new.

>be user
>go to desert with no supplies
>dehydration.exe
>see business man who traveled to the desert with water
>he offers water for $13.50
>my demand skyrockets because I'm dying
>he adjusts price $750
>fucking capitalist doesn't he know I'm entitled to the fruit of his labor
Do you also threaten Disneyland with revolution over their food prices being more expensive?

that img is a work of art

There's a fallacy here, and it's that the dude is entitled to the water at all. Other people have no obligation to give you their property, for a price or otherwise.

Soda machine at my job only takes coins.
Mechanic will charge a dollar to get 50 cents in coins off of him because he knows you are in need of coins, and your dollar is worth nothing to that machine.
Sometimes you get unlucky nigga, best solution is to simply NOT PAY THEM AND WALK AWAY YOU COMMIE FUCK.

You open a shop in the middle of the desert that sells a small volume with a lot of margin
>somehow it's bad

>everything should be free
Why can't the government make medecine?

Actually if he really did need it would have been given to him for mere pennies or basically how ever much it costs to produce. No one actually pays out of pocket $750 that is for the insurance company to figure out

its the profit that encourages people to create medicine in the first place. typically rich people contribute to charities that help those with rare diseases. its the price of having the best healthcare in the world. want more money? stop shipping jobs to other countries

Believing that all human compassion vanishes under a libertarian government is dumb. The truth is that even a dying man is not entitled to another individual's property. Are you a communist, OP?

if only there were an all powerful state that could steal that first person's property to give it to the second person :(

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>moral

corporations dont care about compassion.

even that's not true though
martin shkreli for example had a program available so that people that couldnt afford his medication could acquire it at cheaper rates. the media demonized him regardless and of course didnt mention this to the rabble that they roused

corporations can do more in socialism becouse they can buy politics, laws, licenses, monopolies, and common people are forced to pay taxes to finance corporations bussiness.

in capitalism the same people have all the money they make for themselves and they can do any bussiness, they don't need license (unless they want to be part of some specialist group with good recomendation they can make some proof of being part of it, but nothing obligatory)

>relying on the goodwill of the owner

>stealing what you want

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OP's pic is not of a corporation, it's one man operating a stall. Imagine if you could plant some fruit trees and sell your own pressed juice for a living. And you are approached by a dying man in need of a drink... This isn't rocket science.

in capitalism money is power, the capitalist will use this power to his advantage

Yet somehow the guy managed to get water to the desert.

Let's imagine he's not there, then the choice of purchasing water is gone and anyone dying of thirst is doomed to his fate.

Let's not ignore the fact water is in low supply in the desert, so rising price is absolutely reasonable.

That's what's wrong with this picture, completely ignoring that it's also a fucking strawman.

This image is fucking retarded, the man won’t be able to but the product because it’s so expensive.

>Turing pharmaceuticals

The picture in the op shows a typical business.

Those do not run on dreams and morality.

prove it
telling people to educate themselves is stemming for the progressive liberal side of lolberts

>in fascist land genocide is perfectly moral
They both fucking suck

but everyone has the same advantage. you can't pay politicians to tax everyone but give you a tax relief granting you a monopoly. That's why criminals created socialism, becouse they wanted more power over common people. Having money was not enough becouse everyone was getting richer on their own, and they were stopping giving shit about big important man. They needed some extra authority

the original price is on the desk, idiot
that's the price to cover expenses and make a profit

it's not your water you fucking faggot

Nobody is entitled to another individual's property you fucking communist.

And that's where Marx took over

>there are no regulations or legal nonsense preventing someone else from setting up a stand 2 feet to his left
Sure. Except Mr Shekelburg owns all the good real estate within a 5 mile radius and a competitive business cannot "set up 2 feet" from his.

>This image is fucking retarded, the man won’t be able to but the product because it’s so expensive.
Gommies have 0 idea of economics and think only in strawmen. All product prices are weighted so people will still find the prices attractive, despite being as high as possible.

The question is dumb.
You're dying, and thus have nothing to lose. Assault the guy with all your ferocity, break the water monger, kill him, drink his water, and then use his supplies to continue your journey.

It's win/win for you. If you die, you die quicker, if you win, you get drinking water.Dont pay.

>but everyone has the same advantage.
No of course not.

Those with money and means have all the control.

> you can't pay politicians to tax everyone but give you a tax relief granting you a monopoly.

you can lobby that it is required for "the economy". might work.

>They needed some extra authority
The problem was also most commies did not work. So they had zero power in capitalism.

Libertarians are kikes.

If he can sell a bottle of water for $750 then it's in his right to do so, just as the other guy can refuse to buy it.

Libertarian do not care about race. This is wrong since we all prefer our own kind.

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But then you violate the NAP.

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You're an awful fascist. Do you just wear memeflags like a cross dresser wears a skirt?

ok
from ethics of liberty (amazing book)

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In libertarian land, the dehydrated guy crawling in the desert pulls out a handgun and shoots the chink, and keeps all the water, and bbqs his corpse to stave off hunger.

true, most libertarians advocate for open borders.

libertarianism is the opposite of fascism

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Somebody comes to your house and says he will buy it for same price you did, just because he needs it. Is that justified for you ?

Fascists aren't against free market you gigantic cocksucker.

or maybe the bird gets a nice meal. depends on outcome.

Since it’s a desert with no wintnesses, what would stop me from choking him and taking the water. Perhaps piss on his corpse

Fix'd you heartless faget...

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They're against jews hiking prices to dying men.

The consumer, guided by their own morality, would ensure this stall is starved of all profit and more ethical stalls would be used instead.

absolutely. Fascists would threaten to seize the property unless the chink will sell for the $12.50 (which are a reasonable price)

Awful analogy. My for sale sign would have a price. Just like the merchant has a price on his stand.

Don’t walk in the desert unprepared without water. If you do, be prepared to pay.

this. fascists are anti free market, fundamentally, and have more in common with socialists

>I NEED it it means you must give me stuff at a discount/free
Communism would be more your thing.
Free enterprise was a thing in fascist Italy and NSDAP Germany.

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>Those with money and means have all the control.

No they don't. They can't possibly have all the money without monopoly and everyone can get money without actual problem becouse they have people with wealth all around. You just have to say your price.

>you can lobby that it is required for "the economy". might work.

Nope. They had to create socialism for that

>The problem was also most commies did not work. So they had zero power in capitalism.

Marx was from a wealthy family. Whole communism was a fraud to gain power power

He probably has 20 bucks in his wallet. But does he have hundreds on him in his thigh wallet? Fuck off.

Conditions change, needs don't overcome your own free will.

Lolbertarian brainlet

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not an argument

How did the water peddler get his water onto the desert while the stupid fuck didn't?

We shouldn't give gibsmedats to Africans just because they're too retarded to not kill farmers.

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This isn't about communism. This is big pharma price hikes to the dying.
Why is every single thing with you pieces of human garbage one extreme versus another. You're indoctrinated shits.

This has nothing to do with libertarianism

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We have made clear on numerous occasions that the male and female spirit are bifurcated along lines of virtue. For the man, the virtues of the warrior and the priest. For the woman, the virtues of the lover and the mother. Notice that all four of these virtues has a black mirror, an inversion that represents its nadir. For the man, the evils of the coward and the hedonist. For the woman, the evils of the adulterer and the child-killer. These represent the explicit rejections of the virtues attainable to men and women.

It is worth noting that as with the virtues, the vices for men are independent of the opposite sex, while the vices for women are dependent on the opposite sex. A man can be a hedonist when he seeks endless pleasure in food, drink, drugs, gluttony, violence, or any number of activities that do not require women, even while sexual vices are common. A woman however cannot commit adultery except with a man (lesbianism is not considered to be real sexuality in this context). Similarly, the man can demonstrably be a coward independent of women, when he is on the battlefield, even while submission to his wife is a form of cowardice. A woman however, cannot kill her child unless she is given that child by a man.

Civilization exists to punish cowards, hedonists, adulterers, and child-killers. If these necrotic influences are unchained, they corrupt the hearts of men and speed society to its quick destruction. The numeric account of the death of civilizations is wholly inadequate, for it is quality which has reign over quantity in every sphere that is not the perverted mind of the Modern.

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No they don't faggot.

but you have the very same rights to keep this marijuanist gay away from yourself and your family at the shooting range

>This is big pharma price hikes to the dying.
Prove it. Rising prices allows them to expand more and fund more R&D which will help develop more cures for deadly and debilitating diseases.

Should they be so however? Isn't the purpose of the law to uphold morals?

>without monopoly

monopoly is the end goal of the capitalist

>
you do not need socialism to lobby for tax relief as business

>Marx was from a wealthy family. Whole communism was a fraud to gain power power
yep

The peddle got it to the desert for under 13 bucks a piece. We've been over this already.

you can't do the same when the gov takes your weapons and forces you to share flat with gay couple medical weed smokers

Lolbertarians have more in common with socialists because they both love tranny kids and want sodomites to run around naked

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>Other people have no obligation to give you their property, for a price or otherwise.
Nice.
The image of his smiling and reaching out like that makes it much more dramatic, doesn't it?
If it were just a dude behind a wall with his back turned, it would be a much more "acceptable" hopeless situation.

Do you know how you fight monopoly ?
You don't buy potential monopoly's products

Damn,that was easy

Why couldn't the retard who didn't get his water? Do you have basic reading comprehension skills?

B-B-B-BUT THEN HOW WILL I GET NEWEST MODEL OF iGARBAGE????

It's funny that only the lolbert has sense in this thread.

A fascist government wouldn't do that. But ok fair enough you imaginary lolbertarian state would be better than modern liberal 'democracy'. Congratulations

meanwhile in reality
>you can't even get safe water to wash your hair in Flint
>we're growing shit-infested lettuce in the desert
based neolibs

There definetely is a connection between fascist larp and crossdressing.

It indeed is.

$750 is a very generous price for setting up a water stand in the middle of the desert. If the water had no price I guarantee no one would take it to the middle of the desert and that man would be dead.

Two families have an alcoholic member. One has an intervention and places strong incentives and disincentives to drink less. The other doesn't. Which is healthier?

Two towns have 20% of their population prone to become alcoholics. One places taxes and barriers to drinking too much. The other doesn't. Which one is healthier? Which one has more free trade? Are they the same answer?

Actually tax breaks and corporate welfare funds big pharma. They could have massive price reduction and still make money.

> Isn't the purpose of the law to uphold morals?
It's not.

Read ethics of liberty if this is a subject that interests you. it's probably the most influential book i've ever read mises.org/library/ethics-liberty

so you are now a fan of strong government?

>monopoly is the end goal of the jew

and the socialism is his tool

>you do not need socialism to lobby for tax relief as business

why would you lobby for tax relief when there are pretty much no taxes? don't expect people to suddenly become retarded

Blame socialist government then. This is not a fault of fascism.