Why are mahayana countries so superior to theravada ones?

is there anything in specific about each that explains this, or is it coincidence?

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I thought Japan had Shintoism and China Confucianism, is that a further specialisation from Mahayana ?

*further split

Theraveda is super monastic and intensely personal. The individual is encouraged to avoid materialistic pursuits. Maybe good for spiritual development, but not so good for societal growth.

this

why develop the country when you can develop the self?

It might also be worth mentioning that the geography of SE Asia divides up the region into these neat little valleys, making sequestered, largely non-competitive economies. So they're fairly stable but not particularly integrated or expansionist.

Mahayana is basically Buddhism that been mixmutted by Confucianism. Buddhism spread into China and assimilated with local philosophy.

this is just showing which kind of buddhism was more popular in each place, AFAIK only vietnam is majority buddhist in the 'mahayana' countries

confucianism is more of a philosophy, and shintoism is native japanese religion, and sometime pro-shinto leaders actively persecuted buddhists and tried to 'purge' shinto from foreign influence aka buddhism

according to wikipedia, currently the situation is as follows:
- japan is 51% 'folk shinto', 35% buddhist, 4% shinto organizations and 2% christianity
- south korea is 56% no affiliation, 20% protestant, 16% buddhist, 8% catholic
- china is harder to know because they're communist, but official government data says they're 74% chinese folk religion, 16% buddhist, 8% other, 3% christian and less than 1% muslim; keep in mind people are known to lie about religion in the country since its commie and both christianity and buddhism are supposeddly larger than this and growing
- vietnam 73% folk religion, 12% buddhist, 7% catholic, 5% caodaist, 2% protestant, 1% hoahaoism

afaik, both have the same focus, the difference being that that in 1 the focus is to help others achieve enlightenment while in the other its individual

otherwise from what i've read theravadans are mroe traditionalist, only accepting early buddhist writins as canon (pali canon) while mahayana added more stuff

looking at current demographics, theravadans where also more able to become majorities and keep their majorities, with vajrayanas coming after that (all theravada countries are at least 66%+ buddhist,while vajrayana countries are also majority buddhist but by a smaller margin, and no country where mahayana is the common buddhism has a majority buddhsit population); the onl yreason there are more mahayanas than theravadas is cause china is enormous

btw I cant help but notice that the buddhist countries htat had a tradition of theocratic rule (mongolia, tibet) are all vajrayana, so maybe there's something to it

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also all the cases of "buddhist terrorism" we see in the media seem to be theravadans

Seems like theravada are ourguys desu

Maybe if they weren't so poor

They're ourguys because they're nationalistic, largely keep to themselves, and value their traditions and ancestors. But, you know, so are the Japanese. And I think we can all admire the Mongolians - after all, here we all are on a Mongol throat singing forum.

The gf and her family are Lao therevada buddhists. Women have to sit in the back of the temple, and they don't teach the average pleb about enlightenment, that's only for the monks

Most of what they practice is ancestor worship and some traditional ceremonies. One about a group of sisters who guard their dad's severed head is a pre-buddhist holiday I believe. It's like christians slapping a veneer over old pagan holidays, the Lao buddhists do that with old animist things

because its not pants-on-head stupid, unlike the other two

What percent of mahayana countries are actually buddhist, and not atheist, christian, or shinto? All other sects completely dominate their countries

buddhism isn't incompatible with other religions. stop applying a western lens.
most chinese, even under the commie fags, were buddhist

that's not what I said at all

Mongols are Russian bitches tho even changed to their alphabet

'Shinto is for the living and Buddhism is for the dead' that's the gist of Japan.
There funerals are almost 100% Buddhist.

Not what the censuses say
How so?

>Believing the censuses.
Religion is very engrained in China. Even if you were technically 'atheist', you'd still go to the shrine with your ancestors and pray for good luck in your next business venture or test. You'd put up posters and Taoist symbolism during Chinese New year.

Those stats are bs for Japan considering most people are both Shinto and Buddhist at the same time, they follow both simultaneously. It's not like monotheistic religions we have here.

Regardless of piety most people follow the culture too. Their religions don't require going to church every Sunday type shitt so it's easier to be a part of,and their culture is more centred around it.

And Japan is in some ways theocratic rule since they believe their emperor is descendent from the gods.

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Not only in red China, in every supposedly Mahayana country. And the census says folk religion, not atheism. Going to the shrine, praying for ancestors and so on don't make the Chinese Buddhist
Hasn't been since the 1940s, although they wanted to change it.

Not so fast

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Why did pajeet religion fail to expand like Buddhism? Afaik you guys managed to get to Indonesia but lost it to Islam, while Buddhists went from Afghanistan to China to Indonesia

Did you guys expand to southeast Asia and lose it to Buddhism or did they just get there first?

Brahmins basically shoa'd the Buddhist movement in India. Buddhists posed a threat to their stranglehold on society.

only if you convert to Islam, mate

Hinduism was essentially a caste based/elitist society. They never had any strong desire to evangelize like the Buddhists did.

err Buddhism IS a pajeet religion, the Buddha was Nepali after all
but eh

Buddism is Hinduism for export

Hinduism spread all over but outside of the subcontinent it was cannibalized by Buddhism.
The best known example is probably the Khmer Empire flip flopping from Hindu to Buddhist.

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But they won in India. Buddhism died there (wiki says Huns and Muslims may be to blame tho)
Why is Bali still Hindu?
Kind of, but they defeated you in most places
I thought he was technically from modern day Nepal

>srivijaya
>not holding Malaya and western coasts of Borneo
please

>Buddhism died there (wiki says Huns and Muslims may be to blame tho)
see The main reason was because the Brahmins had a lot sway over politics. Buddhism may have appealed the masses, but it failed to win over the brahmins. They who felt threatened by Buddhist monks taking power/status away from them.