>Mayor Bill de Blasio is championing a plan that would make New York City a pioneer in creating supervised injection sites for illegal drug users, part of a novel but contentious strategy to combat the epidemic of fatal overdoses caused by the use of heroin and other opioids.
>pioneer pretty sure they did this elsewhere a while ago, forget exactly where but I'd like to know how it's going today
Carson Campbell
There are some programs in Canada and Europe. I've been trying to find some sources on whether the programs have been successful. Every article I've found so far has been touting "saving lives" as a success without talking about whether it's worth the cost to save those lives just so they can continue with their addiction.
Julian Sullivan
Well there's definitely some places here in America already doing it, although I've never heard about how successful they are, just that they exist, so I'd wager a guess they don't work
Chase Gray
>whether it's worth the cost to save those lives just so they can continue with their addiction.
philly is now in the final planning stages to build these safe sights - to be located in kensington, the largest open air drug market in America. i made my buddy drive me through the heart of junkietown kensington last night just for the lelz - hundreds of zombies on the streets - another hundred or two in tents under the frankford and emerald street bridges. crazy shit in the long run, the injection sites will just bring more misery to the neighborhood
Tyler Miller
Why should I subsidize the behavior of drug addicts?
Henry Ramirez
They trialled it in some parts of Australia. Great way to fuck your house value and have meth addled psychos harass your kids.
Connor Kelly
It stops junkies from turning to violent crime to sustain their addictions.
Isaac Baker
why not add safe injection needles to the blockchain, so addicts can go get their (((safe injection))) and each day the dose is lowered by 1 or 2 mg so they slowly detox and clean up without going through convulsions and death vomit. it's cheaper and faster.
all while LEO's are cracking down HARD with LETHAL FORCE. DRUG DEALERS.
Evan Taylor
But that's not what's being proposed in nyc. They would still have to find some way of procuring the drugs. The government would just provide them a safe and loving place to shoot up.
>All the junkies off themselves in the state-sanction crime centers Was this not the plan? I thought it was bad to keep drugs from the addicts
Grayson Baker
It actually doesn't
Zachary Sanchez
I actually don't think this is too terrible of an idea, provided my tax dollars aren't going to pay for the drugs. I am okay with my tax dollars paying for a specific location for degenerates to go shoot up. What the Dutch did right was dividing up the places where degenerates could shit and where regular people could eat. The point is to make sure nothing ever spills outside the shit zone. Keep them contained somewhere and off the street while they're intoxicated.
Owen Russell
Work & live in Manhattan. Fuck Deblasio. He's a corrupt Commie faggot. Just another reason why I need to leave this disgusting shithole.
Already paying over $15k+ year just on State + City taxes and on top of that 9% sales tax. If it wasn't for the job I have no idea why anyone would want to live here.
not at all - it just gives them a trailer to shoot up in w a nurse standing bye in case they have to deliver narcan or call the emt. the junkies still need to provide their own heroin - and to get it they will do anything. anything.
Eli Evans
Drugs are bad, mmmmmmmmkay. Idiot.
Matthew Powell
>Inwood >Washington Heights Alredy literal zoos. Chimps there already assault daily and rape a woman every week. Nothing of value lost.
Luke Johnson
DAS HAMSTERDAMN
Nicholas Bell
lol These places will be magnets for crime
Noah Campbell
I’m glad there’s a place they can shoot up where needles are properly disposed of. On the other hand, I wouldn’t supply narcam to these places.
T. Childhood friend OD’d on heroin cuz fentanyl
Cameron Harris
It's pretty funny. The people in the neighborhood really don't want it because the problem is already so bad. But braindead internet leftists are charging full steam ahead telling them that it's going to be good for kensington and Philly.
>Philly user
Zachary Baker
but in the meantime, the neighborhoods (and those surrounding) where the injection sights are located, are ravaged by the thieving, robbing, dope-sick addicts
Joseph Jackson
Cut everything Westchester and South off into its own state. Or let it sink into the Atlantic. Either works. Supervised Heroin sites is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard, just make suicide booths and cut to the chase. And then stuff de Blasio and Cuomo into one as grand opening/test.
Benjamin Adams
This doesn't sound like a terrible idea, but I'd prefer the government and local police use the trillions in tax money they already have to enforce our current drug laws with prejudice. I don't want heroin or meth in my community.
Levi Wright
>commies ruin everything Tell me something I don’t know. I’m fine with living here. Taxes and garbage are my mein problems, but nothing else really bothers me.
They should supply it and it would solve the drug problem over night. The Swiss and Dutch did this.
They won't though. Muh opioid epidemic allows further government intervention in healthcare and allows billions of taxpayer dollars to be mislocated and free votes from gullible retards who think they're actually doing something.
Evan Barnes
You're subsidizing them not dying.
Christopher Robinson
The problem is it will inevitably shit up the neighborhood like it did in Vancouver. If they just had the area constantly patrolled by police so anyone caught selling would immediately be arrested then it could potentially work.
Julian Sanders
No it doesn't, it's to stop them fucking up public spaces by throwing away needles in playgrounds, beaches, cliffside vistas or whatever else.
Australia had a similar thing with public syringe bins.
Leo Butler
the idea of isolating drug usage is one of the major reasons why its utility has often seen "sneaky" methods of using it outside of established parameters. Centralizing an area so that drug users do not pose a high threat to others while being able to use it- since it must be admitted that there will be ones who use it regardless of its consequences- seems likely to reduce both the places where one would find needles - no longer so much at the park but now at the local such and such down at 5th ave and broadway or whatever- and reducing the spread of its influence around schools or other places where often druggies convene. the war on drugs often incites druggies towards violence and so easing the methods on channeling control may likewise have a noticeable effect upon the expressions of violence undertaken by drug users.
Samuel Wright
Their deaths would improve society
Asher Powell
what's even worse desu is the required local leftist praise for d.a. krasner as he dismantles law and order in the city - these people are simply incapable of seeing beyond a few months down the road.
Levi Martinez
i hate the libshit philosophy when it comes to drugs, they behave as if the supply and demand is totally immutable and that we simply need to work within the framework of "harm reduction"
the drug epidemic could be solved within a year but it harms too many black, gray and white market interests and the various cottage industries that surround them
Jonathan Reed
I fucking ridicule AnCaps every chance I get but is totally right. if you are subhuman enoungh to get addicted to heroin you need to be shot on the spot
Angel Perez
I don’t disagree, but I’d only support it if that meant the druggies all died within a month. Otherwise it would just bring all the druggies into the open and everything would just get worse.
Just give free heroine to addicts, kills the illegal trade.
Aaron Nguyen
this is my all-time favorite Trump pic - i know it's shopped but it's just perfect. 1 - print photo in color onto "surplus" postage stickers (found in the lobby of every post-office) 2 - apply stickers in conspicuous spots around town 3 - remember - apply sticker to spot head-high downtown and near universities, apply chest high near high-schools, and belt-high near elementary schools
Julian Roberts
Also, what is the law surrounding these things and cops?
What is stopping state/federal cops from arresting junkies there? Maybe inside it's got some special legality but don't they follow junkies home like drunks leaving a bar?
Camden Howard
it reminds me of the leftist screed against sending people to prison - "prison doesn't do a good job of rehabilitating people" and so let's stop sending people to prison. end of conversation. what about the original theory of punishment for punishment's sake? disregarded as racist or neanderthalic.
Kevin Harris
The funny part about the NYC plan is that one of the places they want to open one of these places is in an upper class (((white))) neighborhood.
You do bring up valid points. This article that an user posted about the program in Vancouver is interesting
Can't remember his name, he's locked up in a supermax for escaping other jails a few times.
Anyway, one thing he said about that jail was he saw there are some people who belong nowhere else but jail because they're fucking animals and can't be fixed. Liberal idiots never ever see this, some people are just total headcases beyond any help at all.
William Evans
Seattle
Elijah Ortiz
absolutely. leftists can't extrapolate on the consequences of their desires. that's how the compassionate geniuses in the 60's & early 70's freed all of our mental patients to roam the streets. an effort spearheaded and driven by the (((aclu))) and their fellow travelers - but they blamed it on Reagan in the media and that's all the vast majority of normees know