I used to be convinced that pro-choice was the moral high ground, but a lot of thinking time and I've switched sides. I am not a Christian. I'm also not a fedoracore athiest gentleman, more if an agnostic; whilst I do not feel faith, I cannot disprove the existence of God in some form. With that in mind I'm not pro-life in the Catholic sense.
The issue with abortion is that of the baby, 'my body my choice' is a bullshit defence because it was never about the woman's rights but rather the prospective child. There is no way of giving a clear cut marker for when a zygote becomes a self aware being so it is therefore immoral to abort a pregnancy that would otherwise come to term and be born a healthy baby without threatening the mother.
Things are simple, You are eighter: Christian (Believer or culturally) or Atheist (Fedora or in disguise (Pagan, Agnostic, Satanist, LARPER))
Jordan Young
Nobody has the right to life, if they can't sustain it themselves. Nobody's obligated to keep brain-dead relatives alive on life support, nobody's obligated to keep a literal clump of less-than-sentient cells alive with their body.
When the fetus is viable, then I feel, ethically, that's a different story. But even then, I'm not about to force my views on others.
Kayden Howard
Man, all I know is that I don't feel the faith that people with religion feel. Beyond that I'm unsure.
A right to life is arguably our one unalienable right. Your sense of life and self is the only thing you can truly claim to be yours.
Eli Parker
>nobody has the right to life >american flag kys
Nolan Parker
The left is the only force behind the pro-choice movement. Leftists (not useful idiots) don't believe in human rights. In none. Not in the least. They don't even believe in humans in a sense. The sooner you realize this, the better. They only care about confrontation, as symetrical and vicious as possible (boys vs girls is perfect, 50/50; pro vs anti abortion also very good and balanced; atheist vs christian also good) since their goal is only to bringing down civilization and to have their shitty NWO emerge from the ashes. They don't give a shit about women either. It all goes back to Marx and Engels.
Nicholas Brooks
I am pro life because usually the lowest scum gets abortions anyway and it lowest the mestizo population. This is my true reason but I larp as a feminist when talking to other people
Nathaniel Hughes
Pro choice I mean sort of confuse the terms sometimes
Luke Roberts
>"the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things." Communist Manifesto Remember this next time you see a leftcuck pretending to care about something, specially if it's about the rights of the individual (which they oppose). They seek the common ruin of the contending classes.
Blake Stewart
They're euphenisms to avoid saying anti- and pro-abortion.
Samuel Taylor
When did Marxism hust desens into petty contrarianism?
Blake Thomas
>only self-sustainable life deserves to exist >toddlers cant sustain themselves >babies shall die
Nathaniel Walker
Abortion can lose elections. Most Brittons want to limit abortions, but even your Conservative Party doesn't dare to touch it (without being a Brit, I would assume for fear of being called sexist, or zealots). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_tactics
Adam Morris
>Athiest Pro-Life if you're pro-choice then you respect women's right to decide for themselves if they will bear children or not. This is ethical, because women are human beings who have the right to decide for themselves (Immanuel Kant's self-termination) and the human fetus may be 'developing' into one, but it is not its own human being yet. If you're a rights-grabbing anti-choicer, you don't respect women's rights and the injustice you use to rationalize your impingement is no better than Hitler's or Stalin's or Mao's.
Carter Morales
There's only one person here rationalizing murder by arbitrarily denying human status to what objectively is a human being. Kant also believed in positive law. In case your post wasn't satire.
Gavin Sanchez
Pro Silence. For slitgenom.
Brandon Thompson
>rationalizing murder It is not "murder". That's your hyperbole emotional plea, but it's not true in any sense, Murder is a legal term. No homicide is taking place. Abortion is not considered "murder" in the US. Claiming it is, is a lie.
Are you a liar?
> what objectively is a human being. But it's not until it is born. Then it gets a name, a live birth certificate, personhood, rights, legal status and a new place in human history. Until then, it's just another egg that hasn't hatched. Smart people don't count their chickens until then.
> Kant also believed in positive law For human beings. What does Kant say about fetuses? Nothing? That's because he was only talking about human beings, not fetuses.
The reality of the situation is that if someone is seriously considering an abortion, they most likely are not ready to be a parent and therefore have a good chance of raising a degenerate moron, so give them the abortion
Caleb Kelly
Athiest,..... dumb bitch. First word wrong. Just shut up when you can not spell your own ideologies in times of auto-correction. Made to suck penis ,...... this one.
Logan Allen
Live from Burka country! Hahahaahahaaaa. Your body - mudslimes choice !
Ayden Fisher
Lol, leftwing scum rationalising the killing of a human being by saying it doesn’t fit their definition of murder. Let me guess, you can’t be racist towards whites right? I like how you talk about appeals to emotions when that’s your entire ideology
Noah Wood
Also
>anti choicers
As if women should be able to kill a mans unborn child because she doesn’t feel like taking responsibility for opening her legs, as if that’s denying someone a choice. “Hey, you’re not allowed to kill people” “OMG, you’re so,like, anti choice”
Are you an anti lifer?
Alexander Thompson
Try not being retarded for once, just give it a shot
Juan Lopez
>the killing of a human being Isn't that illegal?
>Lol, leftwing scum rationalising You apparently don't know what the word "rationalizing" means.
> Let me guess You're wrong about everything else so far and now you want to shoot for the wrong-ass bonus, too? Hmmmmk.
>you can’t be racist towards whites right? If you were winning the argument, you wouldn't desperately try to change the subject.
>that’s your entire ideology I support deontological human rights and suddenly you believe know everything about me? Extreme generalize much?
Isaiah Lewis
>women should be able to kill a mans unborn child because she doesn’t feel like taking responsibility for opening her legs Are you saying men should be able to terminate a woman's fetus because he doesn't want to take responsibility for shooting his sperm in a many women as possible? Men who get laid aren't that stupid but it's understandable how you wouldn't know anything about that.
>Are you an anti lifer? Of course not. Pro-Choicers can choose to bear children. That's one of the choices, actually. With the rights-grabbers, there are no choices, the pregnant women and doctors are put in prison and society suffer. In China the rights-grabbers won and now the state forces women to abort fetuses. You want the world to be more like China, move to fucking China.
