Apartheid Redpill Thread

Apartheid was bad for South Africa in that it should'ved ended in independece, a two state solution. It should've started with independence.

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Sure they did

>The disinvestment campaign, after being realized in federal legislation enacted in 1986 by the United States, is credited by some[2] as pressuring the South African Government to embark on negotiations ultimately leading to the dismantling of the Apartheid system

>The Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986[1] was a law enacted by the United States Congress

>Title III — Measures By The United States To Undermine Apartheid
Sec. 301. Prohibition on the importation of krugerrands
Sec. 302. Prohibition on the importation of military articles
Sec. 303. Prohibition on the importation of products from parastatal organizations
Sec. 304. Prohibition on computer exports to South Africa
Sec. 305. Prohibition on loans to the Government of South Africa
Sec. 306. Prohibition on air transportation with South Africa
Sec. 307. Prohibitions on nuclear trade with South Africa
Sec. 308. Government of South Africa bank accounts
Sec. 309. Prohibition on importation of uranium and coal from South Africa
Sec. 310. Prohibition on new investment in South Africa
Sec. 311. Termination of certain provisions
Sec. 312. Policy toward violence or terrorism
>Title IV — Multilateral Measures To Undermine Apartheid

>uppity niggers who thought they could run the country better than the white man.
The black man is the same here in the US and they are only 14% of the population. We freed them from slavery, gave them some rights, a little money, and a job and this is how they repay us.

Things have gotten worse in some respects and better in others. I was born 91. In my earliest memories of my family home it just has a little flimsy fence to keep the dogs in. Over the course of 25 our security situation has constantly deteriorated. We've upgraded the fence twice and added a bit of barbed wire at the back fence about 2 years ago. Alarm company and armed response came around 2000, neighbourhood watch formed 2005. Community crime organisation formed 2006. An ld of course strong locks, sturdy doors and an eternal mental state of alertness and vigilance. In contrast my parents grew up with little concern of serious violent crime.

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What is it with niggers and holding guns sideways?

Did majority of whites support the end of apartheid back then?

Laziness, it is really comfortable to hold a gun sideways and takes no effort as compared to squaring up. Sideways holding is not to be mistaken with the 45 degree angle position which is used for corners and extra optics.

Well, that was kind of the point of apartheid, wasn't it.

There's a lot of questions about voter fraud during that time. The election doesn't matter, Rhodesia didn't end with an election. The west was going to force it one way or another.

I remember how SA was portrayed as this ebil waciss country to the rest of the world and Nelson Mandela was this big hero.

They news came out about how Mrs. Mandela necklaced opponents - as in put tyres round their heads and set them alight. I woke up then - these people were fucking monsters and they were caged for a reason. Getting more obvious now apart from the determinedly blind virtue signaller set.

I understand that it didn't matter, but it is just interesting what did people think.

You had nukes tho. You ultimately were the last white ethnostate, you should've threatened to nuke the west. But of course normies cannot understand it, and neither did your politicians.

Apartheid is just cheap labor, sure it costs a little more than slavery but is cheaper than equality. South Africans, Rhodesians, and Confederates wanted cheap labor just like how globalists want cheap 3rd world/chinese labor right now. Rhodesian blacks realized that they were the majority and booted the white minority, South African blacks just wore down the white populace until the situation we have today

>you should've threatened to nuke the west
That's insane, it would never have happened, even if we went to war. The nukes were in place to react to the doomsday cold war scenario of the Soviets arming central and southern Africa and trying to invade us, like WW3 type stuff. We were a population of 2 million anglos, nearly 3 million Afrikaner Dutch descendants, we had relatives and connections across western Europe, no one even thought about using nukes on white people. No one would ever have imagined we would have. And if we had bluffed that, we would've been exterminated, there's no doubt about that.

The Rhodesians were winning the bush war, they didn't boot out a fucking thing. America unfortunately in tandum with South Africa, along with the UK and the rest of the west forced them to capitulate at the threat of invasion by the UN. The blacks in South Africa didn't where down a fucking soul, it was American and UK pressure that did.

>where down
*wear down

We stood as a bastion against the onslaught of communism in Africa. We fought for more than 20 years against Angolans, SWAPO (now Namibia) rebels, Cubans and Soviet advisors. In the old days the US would topple the fuck out of commie regimes, we offered to help in our corner of the world. And now that the tables have turned we will find little help from the West. At the end of the day the blacks are easier to manipulate, easier to corrupt, easier to control than a white government would ever be.

It want only cheep labour, it was segregation as well. Using black labour, especially the way it was used, was probably a mistake, but that doesn't mean abolish apartheid.
But eventually it was the west who destroyed you, not the USSR. Your relatives seem to be ok about your current status, and you are going to be exterminated anyway, just without a fight.

When you're talking about who wanted the cheap labour, it was more De Beers (jew owned), outfits like Anglo American, the Australians had mineral rights, so did the French. Most big western powers had mineral rights here, that was what all the cheap labour was for. Your country, the Aussies, the frogs, the jews, all of you made a massive amount more profit than we ever dreamed of from apartheid. We fought and spilled our people's blood to protect your mines and money

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Apartheid security forces vids.

>But eventually it was the west who destroyed you
No shit. If I had it my way we would've gone the way of best Korea. I was like 6 when apartheid ended, I didn't have a say in much. What makes you think we don't fight? The last militias were arrested and thrown into African rape and torture dungeons a little over ten years ago. When we unite we get imprisoned while the world looks on. Every day individual whites fight to protect their families and homes and lives, you don't hear about it because we don't even hear about it. If we didn't resist at all we'd have been erradicated a long time ago. Now it's just millions of atomised, disarmed people with no state or support of any kind fighting for survival.

If you notice there are 2 types of people in the world. There are people who think they can either replace you with a robot OR those who think they can replace you with a cheap slave. Right now its the people who are using slave replacement who are messing things up for everybody. This is why the US is being invaded by people who will risk life and limb, innovate at Elon Musk levels, and wage war just to wear shackles in a farm field for $3 per hour. Same goes for Europe and their african/arab invasion.

It doesn't matter who did what, whites are in a shit situation and have to do something to get out of it. I would propose white men start fucking white women as much as possible and have lots of kids. Problem is white people are too smart for our own good. We would rather have 1 child who is better than 10 3rd world men, quality/quantity. We would rather stay at our workplace rather than with our families.

It isn't really a fight tho, fight is something you can theoretically win.
But what do actual SA white normies think? I searched reddit and quora, it looks like you have your fair share of leftists even among whites. And as most of them aren't farmers, they dont care about all this land stuff.

>It isn't really a fight tho, fight is something you can theoretically win
As a group, no, we can't, we're disarmed, outnumbered, spread out thinly across a country twice the size of Texas surrounded on all sides by fifty million that are out for our blood, with no state, funding or support or any fucking allies. What do you expect us to do? All we can do is fight for survival, and when we unite we get imprisoned and tortured.

What do the normies think? They're raised on anti-white propaganda from the earliest age, it's nearly the only media and education they receive, they're shamed for their race and we have about two generations now that know nothing but white guilt and black oppression. Some accept the indoctrination, some don't. I know a lot of woke whites, I know some faggot lefties, there are less and less lefties these days though.

You didn't fight. Fighting is having an objective in mind and carrying it out. Had the whites fought, they could have easily wiped out the blacks and chased them north out of SA. You basically got litigated out of power and you do not have the racial voting block needed to win. Like I said, you cannot keep a nation with a permanent underclass of people in it, eventually a revolution is bound to happen. Whites in SA and Rhodesia should have Manifest Destiny the land free of blacks.

Rhodesia was being threatened with invasion by the UN, it was on the cards for us, don't be a fucking idiot, that wasn't an option, it would've resulted in international conflict, no one would've been manifest destinied, and we would've been destroyed regardless. We should've sought independence. But I wasn't there. Thinking we could've commited genocide in the fucking 90's over 30 million people with everyone threatening us is a fucking LARP.

I am not saying that I expert you to do something magical and retake the country. I am just saying that the last chance for you to take the fight was to go full Iran/North Korea, now it is over for all of us, the only hope is that white Americans with their muh guns will start something, but it is probably not going to happen.

Yeah i'm not holding my breath. Your country is 87% white, you've offered no resistance, not even seemingly on an individual level, why the fuck are you waiting for the yanks to save you?

It was pretty shit. Lol at the white safrican trying so hard to spread his fake narrative. Says he was born in 91, what could he possibky know. Shows murder stats when even the white government admits thst murder rates of blacks during apartheid was not recorded.

Blacks genocide themselves if you haven't noticed. You don't have to do much to get blacks to fight each other. Right now SA is prime for a black on black civil war but whites are in the way. You may not have been there when it happened but you are here today with technology and history from the US, Canada, Australia and Europe to learn from today. Then you have your country, Rhodesia, and the Confederacy and figure out were they went wrong. It is up to you how you want your country to go. There are no communists formally speaking to interfere with you, the US is focused on the middle east, Europe is playing the fiddle while the capitols burn. Do something.

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The South African Bantu population relative to the whites skyrocketed. The nats deliberately built black shantydowns outside of white townships for cheap labor and these grew into sprawling slums that would become the hotbeds of ANC activity a few years later. To top this all off the readily available work for blacks and Rhodesia becoming Zimbabwe led to absolutely massive migration of blacks into these very shantytowns.
So not only did the nats fail to actually enforce Apartheid in anything besides 'no kaffirs allowed on muh west cape holiday beaches' they let a few million blacks walk across the border. Because money.
Thomas Sowell once said it was Capitalism that brought down Apartheid, not international pressure. He's not fucking wrong.

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Those were the numbers agreed upon by the South African Human Rights Commision, presided over be Desmond Tutu. Read the book A Crime Against Humanity: Analysing the Repression of the Apartheid State by Max Coleman. And no whites ever said the murder rate wasn't recorded. The "fake narrative" was confirmed by Tutu

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niggers aren't human

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