How the fuck did THIS win against the most powerful military in the world?

Because they don't value that thing's life. We waxed a million+ of them for 60,000 of ours but since they communists don't value human life, it didn't matter.

Also we never really had a clear mission and we had retarded rules of engagement thanks to Democrats.

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We may have lost the battle but not the war. We could easily Nuke them.

Not without cost though,

Also this

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You can't win an unconventional conflict with conventional tactics.

A dedicated guerilla effort will outfight and outlast any military unless you resort to pure genocide.

Why do Americans get so asshurt about this. They come in spewing shit like ayyy lmao never lost a war imperial system rules

It didn’t. They lost 4 million people, and their economy took 30 years to recover. If that’s some kind of victory, what does defeat look like?

The Vietnam war wasn't fought in Vietnam, it was fought on American soil in the media, and we lost.

why was the American involved? it's all JFK fault and he feeling inadequate when he got BTFO at bay of pigs.

Guerrilla warfare is effective as shit. They knew their own terrain better than the US Soldiers, they set up traps, ambushes, and disguised themselves as normal civilians

Shut your face, abbo scum.

Because hippies made a concert.

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they beat the soviets? i vaguely remember NV/VC signing a peace accord with the US in 73 tho

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When the zerg swarm gets a good chance to fuck your shit. You don't have many options other then f6.

You misspelled “beautiful.”

that was what created more VC you idiot. Americans did stuff like that already.

Leftist traitors at home wanted us to fail against communism and painted a false picture of what was happening in order for us to leave as we were winning

>civilians started to suicide bomb
>used children to attack military camps
>they most likely knew the terrain better and had the advantage
The US pulled out because it was a losing fight from the get go.

>why was the American involved?

We were partially responsible for the whole thing in the first place, considering the OSS trained Ho Chi Minh and his initial guerilla forces during WW2 to fight the Japanese, and then completely abandoned our promises to him after the war ended.

The Left hating America and rooting for the commies is not exactly new it’s been going on since 1917

Bend over muttbois

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Bullshit. We burned the jungle down.

Earth belongs to America. We are the new Rome. Kneel and obey, lest we grind you into nothingness, punk bitch.

We were winning the war you retard stop listening to leftist propaganda

get ur facts and logic out of here

>Your economy and K/D ratio is what determines whether you won/lost a war
>Not the fact that you came in to Vietnam aiming to "stop communism" with the South Vietnamese and left (evacuated) Vietnam with commies controlling the entirity of Vietnam

Autism

Because they didn't learn how to fight a jungle war. the Aussies and Kiwis did it in Malaya and put those lessons to good use in Vietnam. if the US learnt from their doctrine I think things would be a bit different and the VC would have been bled white sooner. but the VC killed itself with the Tet Offensive and the rest of the war was mostly the NVA running the show

America didn't have the political will to nuke/firebomb/genocide the Vietnamese to the extent that was required. We should have finished the job and then moved on to exterminate the insects in China.

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Lol. Whatever happa bitch. You suck the empire’s dick. Without us, you just receive Russian cock all day.

making the most powerful army in the world flee Saigon from the rooftops and pushing millions of dollars of hardware into the sea and then naming the city after your leader like a chad.

not a commie but americans got btfod and should have spent time killing the marxists at home instead of halfway around the world

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>meme flag
We would've won if we continued to just napalm the entire country, sure, but the US wasn't going to commit genocide because it would've looked bad. Kike yourself.

Yeah, the entire Vietnam conflict was retarded. As fucked up as the left is today, it's birth in the Vietnam war makes sense. That entire thing was a pile of shit that fucked this country up on top of all the fun things the Democrats did in that era.

Fucking disaster.

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By waiting until we left

You lost too.

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Because it wasn’t most powerful? Thousands of lost aircraft, 50k dead, those who survived now beg for change in SF, no goals achived. Pathetic.

Because military technology or resources does not win wars. Better tactics, strategies and troop motivations is entirely preferable to advanced technology and soldiers that don't even want to be there and don't care about the outcome.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

They were fighting to defend their country from foreign occupation while American soldiers were fighting for capitalist economic interests. Totally different ball game mentally, the attitude of many American troops at the time were "what the fuck are we even doing in this shithole" as captured in films such as Full Metal Jacket.

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Vietnam was no threat to the USA. It was an illegal war.

So this

CHING CHING CHONG GET OFF MY RAND

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Yall come play RS2 mega server right now shits getting wild. Also fuck this thread

Heavy supplies and manpower from China.
Communist fanatics.
Nationalistic defenders fighting for their country against imperialistic invaders.
This war was lost for the USA as soon as it started.
It wasn't a war against Vietnamese farmers. It was a proxy war with China and Russia in their backyard.
A very bad idea.
Same reason why the Korea war came to a halt midway.

>as captured in films such as Full Metal Jacket
tips f'edora

Wtf was that war even about?

((((capitalist))))

>be loser Brit retard
>have poor reading comprehension
>have zero understanding of economics
>know nothing of tactics or strategy
>comment anyway on topics that you are clearly uneducated about

Our goal was to devastate Vietnam’s economy so that when communism inevitably took hold, they would not be a success story.

This is US policy. Try reading. It might help you to learn the reality of politics on this planet.

>Brits lecturing anybody about legal wars
Fuck you Nigel hope you daughter is raped by pack of feral pakis

>w-we could've won though

Guessing Russia won in Afghanistan then because they could've just nuked the US-armed Mujahadeen

>making the most powerful army in the world flee Saigon from the rooftops

The most powerful army in the world had already been out of the country for 2 years by the time Saigon fell. That famous picture is a bunch of CIA desk jockeys fleeing the country.

If you're gonna make fun of us at least have your facts straight.

first major war the US fought with the races integrated

Korea.

word$ of wi$dom on both part$ user bro good job

Gulf uh Tahnkin incident where 50000 of Jesse Venturas generation DIED because of a lie

China was the threat to US hegemony in the Pacific after Japan was BTFO. Just look at where China is now that the west is enabling them to get rich by selling us shit and stealing technology.

not an argument

This thread is about the Vietnam war. If you want to talk about the British Empire go and start a thread about you insufferable butthurt toddler.

Yet there were more volunteers than compared to WWII

If that happened, it would have been pretty cool. But instead, 4 million Vietnamese died and the infrastructure and economy were ruined for 30 years or more... almost exactly in line with the scorched earth approach to communism.

This is nonsense though. The war was lost well before most of the public was against it. If you count everything the Vietnam war went on for 30 years.
The fact is America and France was seen as an imperial power invading which was never going to be a ligitment authority after the way the British treated SEA pre ww2 and how the British folded to the japanese so fast.
The south vitnam goverment figure heads were laughable aristocracy trained in the old dynasty. NGO Dinh diets clan had deep ties back hundarnds of years. He was one of 5 high-ranking mandarins of the Nguyễn dynasty
He took power in a rigged election in 1955. This way way before the US started rigging south vitnam figureheads, which of course only made our power even less ligitment

>US armed vietcong
You do know you lost too, britfag. In fact as I recall brits were in there before the US and got ambushed by vietcong and ran like babies.

>win
check the kill counts dude

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Jews

hippies at home were crying so the war became politically unfavorable therefore support was swept from underneath our troops and we withdrew. This was largely in part due to commie influenced news media that flooded America with pictures of dead American soldiers, dead Viet kids, etc... Anything to demoralize the USA.

We didn't really lose the fight, we lost interest and the media war and that was that sadly.

Going into North Vietnam taking over it’s major cities, putting Saigon in charge of everything and keeping enough soldiers to stop the resistance would have meant total victory and that’s what we were on the way to do

You are retarded.
We dropped more bombs than we did in ww2

oi m8 you got a license for that post

Lies lies. The war was lost before public turned against it

Holy shit this war was 17 years long. So it was just bs scam to make money for the usa war machines. I fucking hate you americmutts. You could have done sonething useful instead like wipe out the mudshits so we where going though this bs right now

absolutely WOKE

the only way the USA wins war is by material or technological advantage.
if you guys were on the same footing as charlie in the jungle or abdul in the caves. youd get your shit pushed in

nigger units were segregated in Korea

>keeping enough soldiers to stop the resistance would have meant total victory

It would have just turned into an Afghanistan situation, look how well that's going for us.

Retard

>See how long the insurgency lasts when resistance fighters have their entire village burned alive as punishment.

The Viet leadership wouldn't have cared. They'd just use it as an example of why their fight is righteous. The biggest problem was the South Vietnamese government being absolutely incompetent at winning hearts and minds of the people.

This.

Uh, yea. Nuking Afghanistan would've been a W

I thought the military was desegregated by Truman in 1945.

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That's not how war works. That's what happened in the middle east and look where we are now.

Yet in the end your ideology fell

>americans didn't already do this
oh wait.. that flag
nvm we wuz saviors n sht.

We prefer to bleed nations of their wealth and human capital. It makes our cocks harder to know that we not only rule economically, militarily, and technologically, but also spiritually. We crush enemies into a kind of listless oblivion.

Ask the native Americans about that.

>material or technological advantage.
How the fuck do you think ANY war is won? It's all production capacity, logistics, manpower, and firepower.

Urafaggot. Kubrick was /ourjew/

Lol. You know nothing of our frontier wars, probably because you are a faggot whose ass is as a vagina for better men than you.

What's disappointing as an American looking back on it now is that the North Vietnamese were actually pretty based in being done with foreign faggots invading them. They weren't necessarily the hardcore evil Soviet or Chinese communists we wanted to hurt but more locals who were taking pieces from all sorts of ideology to get their shit together. Ho Chi Mihn was talking about the American Revolution in the same breath as communist faggotry This is evident when all of sudden North Vietnam and China started fighting it out in the late 70s. A lot of the stuff I've read from their commanders and soldiers is incredibly based though.

Also our leadership puppet government in the South was so pathetic that we fumbled that ball badly. There were much better alternatives that retarded LBJ spurging out and sending in the marines.

The whole thing was just a complete fuck up for the United States and we've been falling ever since.

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>what is black april?
>what is operation frequent wind?
>what is the current capital of veitnam called?

americans won the battle but in the end, they lost the war. of course any communist revlution is subject to the Trudeau paradox where if you win, you lose. "yayy we won the war now we can starve under communism". doesnt change the fact that they still forced america out of nam and america failed its objective of keeping veitnam non communist.

Calm down burger before we burn your shithole of a capital to the ground again.

A purebred Anglo nation would have wiped the floor with these fooking gooks, what a pathetic nation you are.

America lost this one. No argument against it. Their mission was to keep communism from spreading and they failed. Korean War ended in a stalemate and Vietnam ended in a defeat. Just because you killed more people doesn't mean shit when you didn't succeed in the main objective you went there to do in the first place. Vietnam became communist, 60k men dead, and the US, with the world's best military still lost against middle aged rice farmers with WW2 guns .

K:D ratio was 5v1 idiot. I'd like you see you kill 5 chinks coming at you with aks right now

We will bleed Afghanistan dry, and make an example of extremist Islamic regimes: choose a path different from what the American Empire wants, and watch your nation be totally ruined.

Sexually arousing as a motherfucker, senpai.