NASA's latest Flagship-class space observatory, the James Webb Space Telescope, is facing new problems after a previous decade of setbacks and failures.
The James Webb Space Telescope is now $7 billion over budget and 8 years behind schedule. The latest problems include washers and bolts literally falling off of it, the sunshield snagging during deployment, and pieces of the sunshield (which was manufactured in China) ripping and falling apart.
The JWST has so far narrowly avoided getting the ax during previous reviews over NASA's budget, and the 2018 launch date has now been postponed to 2020. Many are beginning to wonder if it will ever leave the ground, or if it will be cancelled entirely to avoid any further expenditures on this already grossly overpriced and late project.
Obama slashed NASA's budget and turned it into a government diversity hire program so no wonder it's going to shit. Trumps talked about bringing back NASA some but hasn't done much yet
Lucas Wright
Everyone plays lip service to NASA but ultimately neglects it as an attempt to play both sides. As much as I hate to admit it, NASA is a symbolic holdover from the cold war and little more. Hopefully privatized space agencies will pick up the slack.
Jace Gray
>NASA is a symbolic holdover from when America was white
Fixed that for you
David Morgan
Would you take a look at that, surprised about more (((nasa))) fuckery and "delayed" projects? It's all bullshit, just like (((outer space)))! Idiots don't trust government and obviously not jews, but will blindly shovel nasa's bullshit down their throat.
NASA was doomed the day this piece of shit was announced. NASA has lost all of its ambition and creativity, it invested billions into a giant astronaut execution machine and a $150 billion workout room in space instead of reaching for new heights. They chose to play it safe instead of inspiring the public, and as a result, we have turned our backs on it.
No, because you said "it's bullshit, just like outer space." I'm assuming that by outer space being bullshit, you mean it doesn't exist.
Chase Richardson
Until I see it with my own eyes, nothing can be trusted. Many will not trust media or government but blindly follow nasa like a cult. Nobody can tell me one positive thing nasa has done with their multi billion dollar budget and the (((ISS))) fuckery
You can buy a telescope and witness the ISS in your own backyard when it transits. You can also witness the planets, stars, nebulae and galaxies. I assure you that space is real. One of the positive things that NASA used to do was to develop new materials that have found their way into a variety of civil and military applications.
Michael Reyes
>to avoid any further expenditures on this already grossly overpriced and late project.
just tell whoever manages the money that Saudi Arabia wants to buy it or that it will drop bombs from orbit.
we spent 1.4 trillion on the F-35
0,010,000,000,000 Science 1,400,000,000,000 for Lobbyists and rapfugee production
Asher Long
And of course they also helped develop and deploy the GPS system, which virtually all navigation across the globe is dependent upon today for accurate positioning, altitude, and speed information.
Logan Bennett
GPS can be used without satellites : - there are ground stations used to achieve more precision - introducing time shift in ground stations can make them act as satellites
Lincoln Jenkins
>hey chose to play it safe instead of inspiring
youre a dunce. nasa is not for you. go play with ants.
Carson Price
No, GPS cannot be used without satellites you idiot. I'm not even going to argue this with you, I'm a merchant mariner and we have to be licensed in this shit. The ground stations are used to calibrate each satellite's identity information as it passes overhead. You need three satellites for a 2-dimensional fix (latitude and longitude), you need four satellites for a 3-dimensional fix (latitude, longitude, and altitude).
The Russians have a cheap knockoff of GPS called GLONASS which never works, and the EU is currently working on their own system called Galileo which will operate better at higher latitudes.
Eli Sanchez
The ground stations you might be referring to are called WAAS (Wide Area Augmentation System) that is used for aircraft and vessel navigation by taking the signal from a GPS satellite and comparing it with a known fixed point on the Earth's surface (the WAAS station), thereby increasing the accuracy of the signal.
Jeremiah Miller
>not one single non cgi picture of a satellite to date
Adrian Scott
Yes there is. As I said before, you can view the ISS through a telescope. GPS cannot work without satellites you fucking idiot.
Joseph Scott
Ass I said you just have to introduce a predicted time shift in a ground station to simulate a satellite passing in the sky. How i knw that ? Because that's how you hack a drone into going wherever you want. Like Iran did (maybe with chinese tech) to capture a US drone a couple years ago. Doppler effect can be introduced to now that almost all emmiters are mostly software defined radios.
Liam Morales
In 20 years private companies will make a better satellite cheaper and faster than this abomination.
Levi Jones
Most satellites are far too small to be seen from Earth, but if they are large enough they can be seen during sky-watching sessions. They sometimes can prove a problem for astrophotographers because they will pass across their field of view and leave a streak on the image. They appear as a white spec, nothing more.
Robert Lewis
>you can view the ISS through a telescope no, no you can't
Ian Campbell
GPS do not operate based on the Doppler effect, they operate based on a time difference between a received signal from several satellite sources. Commercial GPS receivers have to be able to track GPS satellites and the positioning of them in relation to each other can create an error if they are too close together. Again, I'm not even going to fucking argue this with you, I am literally licensed in commercial GPS operation for merchant vessels. You are a fucking idiot and you know nothing about how GPS works.
Ayden Walker
a shekel for a good goy
Liam Diaz
Yes you can. A 10 second Google search will prove you wrong, dipshit. There are countless images taken by amateurs of the ISS. You can watch a video and see the ISS pass through the field of view of an amateur telescope in real-time. Or, you could just buy a telescope and look at it yourself. Why don't you do that? Are you afraid of being proven wrong? I guess your mental illness won't allow you to look at anything that would shatter your delusion. It's a defense mechanism.
Read a book on satellite navigation sometime. It's got some big words in it but you just might learn a thing or two, dumbass. Modern marine navigation systems literally would not work without satellites.
Josiah Cruz
The Doppler effect is the topping of the cake to simulate satellites. Like for the ISS. I know how GPS operates. Satellites with predictable orbits send a timestamp, you receive the timestamp with a delay, the GPS receiver knows where the satellites are because we know the orbits and yu triangulate the position.
This i doable in a lab with fixed GPS emmiters to simulate the satellites.
No it is not. The entire reason that the GPS satellites can provide a 3-dimensional fix is because they are in orbit. Without that the stations would be limited by the horizon or slightly beyond it if you get any radio refraction, but that would severely degrade the accuracy. This would make it only usable for coastwise navigation like in the old LORAN systems.
There are no ground stations out in the middle of the ocean with the nearest land being hundreds of miles away. GPS does not work without satellites: period.
Aiden Perry
Who would've known nigger infested NASA would have troubles with going over budget and constructing dogshit I bet Lockheed Martin would've done it with ease.
Ethan Cox
>an amateur video of the ISS is your evidence? Yes, it is. youtube.com/watch?v=LcB0-RUDGAY There are dozens and dozens of amateur videos and images of the ISS. Why don't you buy a telescope and look for yourself? You won't because you have a mental illness and it won't allow you to do anything that would break the delusion.
Mason Sullivan
>a blur flying across the screen is the iss 1 shekel has been deposited into your account
Adrian Bennett
If you pause the video and look at the still of the shot (which he does several times), you can clearly make out the ISS, dumbass. Why don't you buy a telescope and look for yourself? Why are you ignoring that question?
Ian Hernandez
kek, we can't see shit, something you can add in a video editor in 30 sec.
Daniel Sullivan
Youre wasting your time trying to argue with the flat earth posters. They're mentally ill at best, but are most likely acting in bad faith to discredit the rest of us by proximity
Carter Russell
Why don't you buy a telescope and look for yourself? Or a ham radio and communicate with one of the astronauts on the ISS? I know but it just pisses me off how they act like they know what the fuck they're talking about. I'd be more forgiving if it was just general ignorance like "I don't know man, I don't see how man could ever send something to space." It's the arrogance and the absolute smug sense of superiority and lack of understanding of things they claim to know so much about that gets me.
Brayden Adams
And to add to that, why would literally thousands and thousands of amateur astronomers who take pictures of the ISS all be trying to fool you? You can capture an image of the ISS with just a cellphone or even a film camera if you know what you're doing.
Benjamin Jenkins
Nasa was god when the NAZIS staffed it, JPL is the real shit where the occult hides.
Brody Hall
No worries NASA, Elon will sort it. Honestly NASA is such a fucking joke they might as well just throw in the towel after the trouncing they are receiving from SpaceX.
Alexander Foster
huh, I guess these dumb niggers were totally justified in their shitty JWST project, then
Surprise! NASA is an absolutely shitty and irresponsibly run government propaganda mouthpiece instead of a collection of scientists that want to further the human race. It's where all the overweight psuedo-intellectual snowflakes go since they couldn't make the cut for the private sector on their own merit. The sooner we defund NASA to create a new military branch for space operations the better.
Joshua Cox
You can even do this at home now
github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim a part of the software is to simulate the position of the satellites and get the right signal delay
It's impossible to know if you actually hear the ISS passing over your head (yeah like it hangs out in the sky like that and never fall) or a plane with an emitter and simulated doppler effect.
Christopher Diaz
What the fuck am I looking at?
Elijah Wood
nigger, it's visible with the naked eye. it looks like a moving star across the sky.
Simulating the signal from a GPS satellite is not the same as simulating the position, orbital velocity, and relationship to other satellites. You cannot have a GPS system without satellites. In theory you could, but it would only work within visual range of land. That is it. GPS works across almost the entire globe with the exception of very limited accuracy at the poles. It would also be incredibly inaccurate if it was ground based due to atmospheric attenuation. Educate yourself, retard.
You do not hear the ISS going overhead, there is no sound propagation in outer space. You can go on a website where you can calculate where the ISS will be at any given time and day in the sky. Buy a telescope, and look at it yourself. You're either afraid to do it because you know you'll be proven to be full of shit, or you're so fucking poor that you can't afford a telescope.
Lucas Campbell
It's what happens when your main education is cable TV.
No, he is trying to say that there are no GPS satellites and that it is all ground stations broadcasting to pretend there are satellites. Shit does not work that fucking way.
Carson Reyes
black underachievement and lefties in NASA who want to affirmative action them to win a contest they shouldn't.
Grayson Turner
JWST fuck my shit up
Brody Evans
My middle school science fair project looked better than that, fucking Christ man. That is pathetic that NASA is seriously considering that stupid shit worthy of a scholarship or whatever it's for.
Juan Gomez
kek
Nathan Peterson
I missed one of his posts. He is a dumbass trolling or something. Have a good day and stay safe on those ships buddy.
Brody Stewart
Thanks man, stay safe doin whatever it is you do!
Robert Nguyen
If you haven't go look up who started the californian based Jet Propulsion Lab. Interesting stuff.
Aiden Clark
I used to be a signals guy, So I feel your pain when flat earthers and no spacers start talking.
Nathan Sanders
Yeah man it's a trip. Craziest thing I ever ran across was a mate (ship's officer) I worked with who was, honest to God, a Flat Earther. I tried asking him how he thought the gyrocompass and GPS and shit worked and he said some absolutely batshit insane shit. No clue how the fuck he got his license, but he wasn't American so that probably explains it. Licensing requirements for shitskins is basically "sit down, prove you know how to say 'left' and 'right' in English"
Kayden Thomas
It usually comes from dumb asses misunderstanding physics and accepting flawed arguments from "authority" they perceive to be telling the truth.
Charles Torres
You sound like the most annoying, smug, Arab faced shitskin liberal feminist
Isaiah Reyes
>pointing out that NASA has turned into a diversity hire waste of taxpayer money makes me a shitskin liberal feminist Reading comprehension isn't your forte, is it?
Hopefully there were some novel techniques pioneered during it's development because it sound like a waste of fucking time and resources to continue now.
Aiden Morales
you can't argue with flattards they can't even play kerbal.
That's what they get for hiring their diversity queue and 4.0 GPA suspicious arabs.
Adam Anderson
DIVERSITY BE ARE STRENF
Oliver Long
and its beautiful!
Gabriel Bailey
Top-tier satire. Just wondering why Ben Garrison didn't put his signature on it
Parker Gutierrez
If there is no sound propagation is space then how do Star Wars lazers go pew pewww and the Death Star goes BOOOOM in the end ? You're a joke
Jason Robinson
You're a fucking idiot. Globe earth and the existence of space can be proven by anyone with a satellite dish or a telescope.
Lincoln Flores
Imagine Trump doing a speech about this. Saying Obama fucked up our space program. >CHYNA It'd be glorious. Can't have space marines with no space program after all.
Cameron Gonzalez
It's money laundering to fund other projects/hush money
Austin White
You can also relatively cheaply put together a VHF receiver and listen for the old NOAA satellites broadcasting unencripted analog video around 137MHz as they fly overhead. New sats are all digital, but there are still a few operational analog ones. Many people on the internet have done so, some even on youtube. You can literally witness the satellite rising and setting over the horizon and look at the image it recorded.
But of course neither of these retards are going to put in the effort to try something like this.
Tyler Baker
This is what happens when you only hire minorities and women.
Camden Baker
>washers and bolts literally falling off of it Wtf, did they have the chinks assemble it too? Who's the fucking dumbass that can't turn a damn wrench?
Luis Sullivan
If I recall correctly, the washers and bolts were falling off during simulated launch conditions because they were designed shitty or something
Ryder Clark
How many quadraplegic demi-plato-sexual genderkins does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Nicholas Hall
Turns out space is hard
If this were China we'd just shove it out the door and call it a success only to have it fail within a month
But this is NASA shit's expected to work a bit longer.
In the past, NASA not only made shit that came in on time, but often times it came in under budget as well. The Voyager probes, the Apollo Program, Skylab (kinda). NASA's glory days are long since past.
Julian Morris
Literally still have a rover roaming around mars
Cooper Barnes
What is your point? I just said past NASA missions have come in under budget and on time. Over the years NASA has increasingly had a problem both with staying on time and staying under budget.
You can clearly see his pinky finger catching the other astronaut's pocket. Please read the rest of the thread for more info on why you're a retard.
Jacob Nelson
He's right though. The shuttle was a piece of shit.
Jack Edwards
JUUST
Jose Bell
>Implying Explain why the jew bitches hair is sticking straight up like she just got electrocuted. It should be like she is under water. NASA is a fucking scam.
Caleb Bailey
>It should be like she is under water Where does your authority on the matter come from? A PhD in shitposting doesn't cut it
Bentley King
It is just sad how far behind Nasa/Boeing has fallen behind SpaceX. They have been working on the SLS for years now, & have spent billions, but don't plan on flying the first one until at least 2021.
Meanwhile, the Falcon Heavy is launching now, can lift nearly as much (64 tons to LEO vs 70 tons for the block 1 SLS) and is literally 1/10th the price. And at this point I would put even money on the BFR flying before the SLS, and the BRF will BTFO the SLS by any measure.
the sls isnt even reusable they can only launch a few of them at most. at great cost. i think the only point here is so nasa employees dont lose their jobs. what other point to this thing could there be
Jordan Bennett
Fun fact, both times those shuttles blew up Nasa broke their own safety regulations and cut costs on crucial parts.
When Columbia was falling to the earth they could have sent discovery which was on standby to intercept and rescue the crew, but they never gave the launch order.
Thomas Perez
Fuck.
I was looking forward to the JWST
Asher Morris
Your hair fibers would stick out a lot more straight from the follicle if were didn't have gravity you fucking tard, you think that dude on the bottom right is a street nigger with a flat top?
Colton Richardson
NASA has become too risk averse.
Nathaniel Taylor
>It should be like she is under water. No it shouldn't. Microgravity and buoyancy are two entirely unrelated things you fucking idiot.
