The situation: I have to give a presentation about US gun culture. Got assigned to a radical centrist with no knowledge.
>tfw prof is a bong liberal Dück
>rest of class even worse
>mfw when only one that shot an actual gun (been tonTexas)
I need every good statistic and argument against the usual bullshit hysteria and stereotypes you got.
*cuck
My German autocorrection chimped out.
*to Texas
Go read the second amendment to US constitution. It explains it all.
Don‘t expect them to respect laws different from the EU laws and Sharia...
Dredge up the clingiest SJW bullshit you can think of. Feed it to them. People who are dying to be lied to deserve to be lied too. Laugh up your sleeve as they lap the shit up.
m4/m16/~ are just beautiful.
Do your own homework. Are you a millennial?
spend some time on Jow Forums
>US gun culture
Some people like to be responsible for their own security. Do we need the state to wipe our asses for us?
Also, everyone is really polite at the range.
FBI murder statistics.
Most are suicides. After that it's gang violence, which is self contained amongst it's population (for the most part)
You are more likely to be beaten to death here than get shot by an AR15
Also the AK47 is trash
They truly are. Gotta admit that I slightly prefer the H&K 416 - it‘s German after all. ;)
Don't be a fiend, bin that AR-15!
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It‘s getting started. You guys are great! Really.
thats most of the good stuff, i got to go to work now
Got the source (OG study, Report) for that?
Is it extracted from the FBI report?
Thanks man, have a lovely day. Thanks again.
What about Rousseau? Thomas Paine? Do they respect logic?
Much ink can be spilled on this topic. The point of the 2a is to disallow the government from having a monopoly on the means of coercion.
Another fun thing to throw out to “only for hunting” libshits, is that the 2a protected your right to own a cannon. A cannon isn’t very good for hunting, but it’s pretty good for bombarding an enemy.
You can even argue that a cannon is more devastating than an AR15. You can survive being hit by a 223. Being hit by a 68lb ball, fired from a colonial legal siege gun, is going to kill or instantly maime you (if you’re lucky).
>> ak is trash
Lmao shit for brains
this is similar
He's German, I have a feeling he would be expelled if he used this chart
I’ll try to throw that out, my „partner“ will present the historical background of the 2a. Maybe they will listen to the words of wise men like Paine.
The cannon thing is a good one. Problem is that these people can’t comprehend how citizen have any kind of responsibility and self-determination. The state is always there for you...
>nigguns.png
My sides.
>Full semi-automatic
As opposed to what? A semi-semi automatic?
You know that feeling all too well, do ya?
I think it was supposed to say “fully”.
Yup. I could get expelled just for being on this website. You can't even point out how acid attacks are the most common among Bangladeshi Muslim gang members. It's an imported problem from a savage culture. And people get 5 years here for acid attacks. Meanwhile Bangladesh has managed to significantly descrease acid attacks. How? They started giving people the death penalty for acid attacks. Which is what the UK should do ideally, realistically like 50 years in prison.
i dont see the bump stock
That doesn't change much. A fully semi is still just a semi automatic. It's redundant, and probably just there for effect, to make it seem more dangerous.
libshit BTFO'd
Same thing over here. If you just dared to speak about the rape problem with immigrants - especially afghans - you would face the whole wrath of the SJWs and all the centrist cucks that listen to them.
In some instances they are let free by these idiotic judges. The attorneys and judges are so left it’s not even funny anymore. The police tells women not to go out to party or run at night anymore but the politicians insist there is no problem.
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Here OP. these are great and a ton the very least also highlight how the left and neocons attempt to hide the truth about our positive and very beneficial gun culture.
“Fully-semi” It is a meme that is based on a CNN report with a guy on a range talking about the evil gun he just used. As in “it is both”.
CNN thought their viewers would believe that. Some SJWs certainly did.
And meanwhile white men are being lectured on "slut shaming" and "rape apology" because some people have said that not wearing revealing clothing will make you a lesser target for rapists than the girl with her tits out.
Thanks man, appreciate it. Second source is just great.
Exactly. I was pro 2a before I went to the states, and was it even more so after I left. Could you please change your immigration policy so that I don’t have to paint myself brown and jump over a fence and commit a crime - just to get into the USA?
Hey OP, this show is pretty fair , may have some good arguments to steal and use-- at the very least it's very entertaining.
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It’s fascinating how dumb libs always manage to target the wrong people...
How about the declaration of the rights of the man and of the citizen then? And all the works of Mirabeau?
No problem. Also state the difference between assault weapon (made up term) vs assault rifle (select fire combat weapon)
Might show some clips from it to lighten the mood. Or the American Dad Clip where he puts a gun on the table and tells it to shoot someone.
>HK416
I own it's Belgian rival, the SCAR 17s (well the SCAR H/L is it's rival, but You know what I mean)
Fantastic rifle.
How is H&K pistols? Thinking of getting that SP5K
I heard that they are okay. Unfortunately it’s too expensive for me to get a “Lizenz”, it takes so much time and money just to get a 9mm.
To be fair I just love the SCAR family. Especially the H and it’s rival HK417, battle rifles are just awesome... a distant dream for a German.
You could show them this clip too
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In the Army they shoot thousand bullets each day for training, and nearly zero to isolated killing spree incidents.
Why? Because they're trained to respect the weapon and what it can do and because most of them are disciplined, unlike the niggers and beaners in gangs.
The 17s is the first rifle I would buy if I was in the states (and had the money).
Could tell me a little bit about it?
How do you do, fellow Landsmann?
Take the example of Switzerland
Should a 10 million strong army try to invade it, the order will be for everyine to fire two rounds and go home
>tfw I don't remeber whose quote it was, nor in which context
>everyone is really polite at the range
Beyond shooting guns, this is my favorite aspect about the range. The rules are clear, everyone follows the rules, everyone is respectful to each other. Feels good being in the company of responsible people.
There's a CDC study conducted under Obama that shows guns save more lives than they take. Don't have the link but it should be easy to Google.
Consider the possible link between apocalypticism and our gun culture, and frontier ism and our gun culture. We can imagine a time and remember a time (culturally) when the world was lawless. Technically the guns are supposed to be for overthrowing the government, but really I think we're obsessed with them because of our short history which is filled with non whites
go to google scholar and type in "gun control and murder rate." Many studies in anglo countries show no correlation.
Also theres a site that lists all the crimes prevented by gun owners (a few a year not counting home invasions)
Extremely little recoil if held properly. Very accurate. You need to put the newest gen of ACOG on it because of how that recoil compensation works, as it will toss your zero. The new ones resist this. I take it hunting boar with my ps90 lol
Oh I should mention that I've only had it jam 3 times, twice from using 3rd party ("25 round") mags and once because my brother loaded a bullet into the magazine (20 round mags for 7.62 NATO/308win)
Most are semi auto and still legal to own today but nice condescending boomer facebook post but in going to need a source
"I come from the north (Ohio) and gun culture up there is actually very alive and healthy. Safe practices are taken very seriously, and those who do dangerous shit like shooting into the air and leaving live weapons around are chastised and made to look like morons. Every good dad is held to the responsibility of teaching their kids about using guns safely. My dad did that, my dad's dad did that, as did his father. Safety is usually a number one concern. As speaking from experience, the European idea of fat sweaty neckbeards shooting shotguns in the air is actually pretty far from the truth. What is true, is we love our guns. What isn't true is that the majority of us are dangerous with them." You can use that
easy way to score points if someone brings up the "muh fantasy about overthrowing a tyrannical government" argument since you're a jerry is to chastise them for calling tyrannical governments a fantasy and tell them it's irresponsible to let your guard down
Hmmm; if they're that level of degenerate, maybe try invoke visceral sympathy with an anecdote of a woman that would've been gang raped but for being armed.
"God created man, but it was Colt that made them equal."
another great point you can bring up about american gun culture if someone tries to argue about "muh gun crime rates compared to white scandinavian countries" (but you have to be VERY careful to sidestep race) is to point out that the (white) conservative gun owners who participate in gun culture have gun crime rates on par with those very same scandinavian countries, and simply casually mention that the US gun crime problem occurs outside of gun culture
slips a redpill in there too about race without ever having to bring race up, since everyone knows what's implicit about gun culture
Just say what the prof wants to hear and get a good grade.
We have big concerns about the government keeping records of our gun purchases, which has lead to a market for machine tools and pieces of aluminum that can be easily machined into part of a functioning firearm. This is legally considered building your own gun, which is completely legal and bypasses any opportunity for the federal government to know about said gun
Basically we don't trust our government, and frankly, can you blame us?
Easy. Accuse them of stripping the rights of women to defend themselves and call them all pro-rape.
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Here you go OP
Three questions that destroy liberal gun cucks on (((assault rifles)))).
Then why do the police need and use them?
The police are held to the legal standard of conduct known as reasonable force. Thusly AR's are classified under the law as a reasonable means of the use of force.
The second amendment doesn't specify what types of arms for a reason. It is not a right to a specific type of weapon or arm and sets no limitation on a person's right to the use of force. It sets a prohabition on the government from preventing the people from having free acess to arms. This is not an accident. The fact that gun owners have allowed their rights to be infringed in order to apease the fellings of those who fear a free people of agency is proof that reasonable gun control already exists. The fact that you push for ever more infrengment inspite of all consessions on the part of gun owners is proof that what you want is neither reasonable nor common sense.
The problem with your argument boils down to the state having the right to wield force over the people without a reasonable means of recourse.
Question one. Do I have the right to self defence?
question two. If I have the right to self defence how can I exercise that right without the equivalent means? What gives a third uninvested party the right to arbitrate and limit my right to self defence without due cause?
Question three. If this particular weapon is so deadly and evil. What makes it acceptable in enforcing the will of the state against the people, but extraordinary and unacceptable in the hands of the people for their own defence?
The second amendment is more than the right to guns. It is the right to the self determination of the use of force by the people. By the weight of their actions theirr end goal is to subjugate that right and monopolize the right to the use of force into the hands of the state. That is unacceptable and simply wrong. That is why it shall not be infringed.
See if they'll respect this chain of reasoning:
1) guns are force equalizers
2) you have a duty to speak the truth, even unpopular truths
3) you have a right to defend yourself.
4) you may have to defend yourself from a large group of people, especially if you are saying something unpopular
5) the best way to defend yourself against a large group of people is through the threat of lethal force and the ability to follow through with that threat--speak calmly and carry a big stick, so to speak.
6) the best tool for that is a select fire weapon.
>talks about responsible gun ownership
...user, the atf would like to have a word regarding your pic.
Even Karl Marx said that any attempt to disarm the workers of the world should be resisted with force.
It is not hard for you to make a very reasoned pro-gun argument using conservative, libertarian, and even communist sources.
A gun is a tool not a toy. It should be treated with respect.
Start there, kraut.
is this thing on?
Need an interview with an Americunt? I volunteer.
Good point, I’ll use that.
I definitely will. Much appreciated.
gun control reduces civilian gun ownership
Point to the fact that approximately 87 percent of all gun violence is committed by previously convicted criminals whom by current law already have been stripped of their legal right to bear arms. The data clearly shows that gun regulation doesn't work on criminals. Then point out all of the countries that have retroactively severely limited legal access to firearms for self defence have almost immediately experienced a significant increase of violent armed victimization against the now unarmed lower and middle class by the already existing criminal element. Things like home invasions and armed robbery go up every time the people lose the ability to fight back. When they smugly point to the drop in gun deaths respond by asking them if homicide rates dropped. The answer is historically no. If they only focus on gun deaths then they don't actually care about the victims because their (((solution))) did nothing to actually protect them. They care about the guns because an armed citizen is not totally subject to authoritarianism. That is ultimately what they are trying to control. The problem with liberals is they will subversively and violently work to see all the law abiding be equally subjugated rather than respect the rights of those of us who are willing to take our own safety and sovereignty as both a right and responsibility. The state is their god and those who do not bow to their god are heretics in their eyes. That is why they hate gun owners. Whether they are self aware enough to realize it or not. Sadly that is why we will never actually come to an acceptable compromise because there is no compromising with them.. They will never stop taking if we ever stop holding the line. Nothing we give them short of obedience will ever appease them. And even then they will most likely still be raging cunts about everything.
That’s exactly my experience. These kids think that the state is just perfect and will always help you and people shouldn’t have responsibility and self-determination, the poor will be helped by the state, the criminals will be stopped, the market will be saved, the truth will be upheld, etc...
I can’t comprehend how these libs hate Nazis so much but unironically worship the state.
Checked it, awesome stuff. Norway is second on my “Countries to escape to”-list. For me the northern biosphere with its Fjords and hills cannot be beaten - beauty wise.
Tell me, is it rightfully so? How’s the refugee situation ?
Not only could you own a Cannon, you could own a ship with 21 cannons on them, or an entire fleet of them.
In fact, it was highly encouraged, as early American traders were favorite targets of Muslim slavers until the Barbary wars put an end to that.
