Why are you against free migration, Jow Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP

Restrictions against migration are the biggest distortions in the world economy. The tens of trillions of dollars in deadweight loss per year is worth discussing.

Why the do we let these fucking kike (((economists))) to get away with saying that increasing the GDP is just good for everyone?

What fucking planet am I on? Who the fuck ever proved such a thing?

GDP says fucking nothing at all about the quality of life of the average person. It can go up and we could all become wageslaves at the same fucking time. In fact that already has been happening. Why the FUCK is everyone so fucking stupid

Can someone explain this shit to me? Am I missing something or is everyone a legit fucking retard?

You are one sad little shit.

Even if you accept the idea that the races aren't equal, it doesn't change the fact that free migration would make the world much more productive.

>productive

Yes, we would become more “productive” if our labor became worthless, becuase then we’d have to work more to not fucking die

This is a spam fag running a psyop. Notice the picture of a white woman with a distressed facial expression; he is trying to get you to mentally associate ‘free migration’ with blonde white women. Note that recent free migration has been african men but is parroted in the press as ‘women and children.’ He is preying on your mind’s inbuilt desire to help women to actually subvert your countries. He does this several times a day, despite being refuted each time. Sage, hide, don’t engage, etc.

Because GDP is not the highest good and GDP doesn't mean shit for anyone but the richest people if society goes to shit because of the influx of economic migrants.

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It's simply false because the inevitable consiquence would be a mass migration of inferior races to first world white and asian countries. It would be one way and only serve to reduce the living space of white and asian people. Couple that with their birth rates and you end up with a genetic replacement.

>real GDP
why does real need to exist in this phrase?
surely if there is no product you can't add it to your GDP

>muh shekels
>fuck all the rest!

Because why should I give a fuck about worlds total GDP.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you're suggesting real wages for native-born workers would fall, that depends on whether immigrant and native-born labor are close substitutes or complementary. If native and immigrant labor are complementary inputs in production, real wages and employment opportunities would increase for native workers.

According to those same economists the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act wasn’t going to change the economic structure nor the demographics in America.

Trusting (((economists))) is on you.

Know what else would increase world GDP? Enslaving all the niggers. Imagine how much money would change hands for goods and services! Kys libertarian

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Why would enslaving black people increase world GDP? And why do you mention the circulation of money as if it is related to real GDP in any way? Do you know the definition of GDP?

What's your point?

That open borders or third world Immigration of any kind just ends up with white people being replaced by dumber, uglier, less productive people.

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You're not making any sense. There are more white people in the world than ever.

GDP doesnt necessary mean you have rich cotizens. A country with high GDP can also have huge poverty rates. In other words, growth doesnt necessarily mean development.

High GDP countries generally have higher poverty thresholds and lower rates of absolute poverty.

And yet white people are still only 11 percent of the global population and rapidly decreasing. Not to mention nonwhites are invading their living spaces by the millions.

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Not necessaruly. But in any case I want to say that GDP while useful is unreliable due to many factors that influence it.

That's because white people have lower birth rates. It's not because there's any genocide against white people. Immigrants don't come go to America and murder white people en masse.

Where did I say there was a genocide against white people. I always refrain from phrasing that way and prefer to call it a genetic replacement.

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Why are you against suicide, op/? According to economists, over population will bring down the economy.

This. STOP REPLYING TO THESE FUCKING THREADS! SAGE

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I google searched "genetic replacement" and found nothing. If you want to be understood by people, you should avoid making up your own terms.

I've never heard economists say such a thing. Generally, it's economically ignorant laypeople who freak out about overpopulation.

At the cost of average wages in the western world.

I think most people understand what genes are and what replacement means. But alternatively you can call it demographic replacement.

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I see someone is a fan of Malthus.

SAGE. ANY ANCAP KNOWS NIGGERS (LIKE 99% OF THEM) ARE NOT CAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WHICH LEADS TO FREEDOM.
IN. ALL. FIELDS.

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Stop. This thread has probably been made over 100 times over the months.
What the fuck is the point?

Certain races evolved in tandem with certain climates and geographical locations.

That's all that needs be said. Africans have an affinity for Africa her climate her land and her animals. Europeans for Europe and so on. Your genetic memory is a powerful factor in your life and denying it only causes contention.

And lastly GDP is a pretty trick but doesn't actually matter.

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There are more important things in the world than raw GDP faggot. Like...oh I don't know...making sure your citizens have jobs and a source of income rather than the shitskins in whatever country is the current manufacturing haven right at that moment in time.

(((Economists))) It would also destroy Western Culure and society because the billions of 3rd world scum would come for the free gibs.

Economists who aren't party stooges will tell you that it WON'T double the world's GDP because the 3rd-world hordes would destroy all value of labor, and in the process destroy the middle class to make the world like Mexico where the rich live like gods and everyone else can fuck off.

While at the same time it'll sky-rocket the prices of rent and housing to make everyone like Brazil where all the poor live in tin shacks.

No nation was ever economically-improved by over-population, which is why the poor ones keep on staying poor.

came to post this. When will the meme stop?

This artist doesn't understand GDP accounting. It's a really dumb comic strip.

So why are European-Americans generally more productive than Europeans? Why are Asian-Americans and black Americans far more productive than Asians and black Africans respectively?

Not all ancaps are like this guys.

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>Why are you against free migration, Jow Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP.
Since I'm an economist, no it fucking wouldn't. It would create mass crime, overload the economy just with keeping people from going allakhu akbar on every street corner, and is a generally bad fucking idea.

You are not talking about the gdp per capita question faggot, go back to school kid

>Not all ancaps are like this guys.
He's not an ancap, he's a college NEET who discovered some economics but still can't do 2+2=4. He's a pathetic wastebin little cunt whom I will quash under my feet. Grab popcorn.

Because what matters is money not well being of people. Sure. If money can heal your brain after your daughter gets gang raped aby fifteen negros, do it.

This is the exact thread that Jow Forums is about you fuckin tard.

>So why are European-Americans generally more productive than Europeans? Why are Asian-Americans and black Americans far more productive than Asians and black Africans respectively?

Largely due to the fact that we don't have open borders. We have selective Immigration policies.

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double? we would be 6 gorillion times richer!

I don't really like Jeffrey Tucker.

Earning a C in high school AP economics doesn't make you an economist, user.

I never mentioned money once.

So what?
It's good to challengethose ideas anyway.
This isn't your reddit circlejerk you tard.

Who would pay for the roads?
What if people can't afford education?
Where would society go since there is no state?
Why do you hate the age of consent????

Ancaps are fucking stupid, thinking globalism would even though people from other places wouldn't stand each other since they are different entirely.

Classical liberalism ftw.

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Because you can't buy my morals with money.

>This is the exact thread that Jow Forums is about you fuckin tard.
No but he's wrong though. You don't make anything better by importing people from a bad country into a good country. You just make the good country worse and risk interbreeding and cultural overlap which will make the good country worse. Its by definition fucking retarded.

The only scenario where it COULD make sense is if you have two equally good countries that specialize in different products, so while one country has a surplus of experts that are not needed another has a total deficit, and by importing them, you'd have a big rise in utility because 10 cars in a place with a 1000 cars doesn't matter but 10 new cars in a place with 1 existing car makes a big improvement.

But even that is extremely difficult because there is a reason why the two countries would have such a high surplus of people who are experts in that field.

>Earning a C in high school AP economics doesn't make you an economist, user.
I know it doesn't, answer the argument cunt or admit that you and your shitty argument were destroyed.

>I don't really like Jeffrey Tucker.
Said he as he mastrubated to him in a pool of tears "why don't they like muh globalism? WHY" he asked.

No response came.

Yeah double the gdp
and octuple the inflation meaning money is worth half and has half the buying power.
Like in zimbabwe how everyone is a billionaire but you cant buy even a loaf of bread.

>Yeah double the gdp
>and octuple the inflation meaning money is worth half and has half the buying power.
>Like in zimbabwe how everyone is a billionaire but you cant buy even a loaf of bread.
That's what they say, it doesn't mean what they say is right. Its not just about economics, but even in pure economics, you don't benefit from having a dumber and more criminal popuation that knows less. Its by definition idiotic, ESPECIALLY with minimum wage laws, which will bankrupt the fucking country or cause MASS unemployment.

Isn’t that a good thing? With even wealth levels, there would be no incentives for economic migration anymore. Only people with special interests would migrate

You're not an economist, dude. What is a "surplus of experts"? You speak like a layperson, not an economist. You're probably the same retard who didn't understand basic GDP accounting a few weeks ago.

I didn't even say anything about immigration you dumbass. I was telling the reddit kiddie to lurk before posting his dumbass opinions.
Also OP is looking at the world wrong, are you looking out for system of commerce or the people of the country? What good does a high gdp do to a people that dont exist?

So genocide is okay? As long as the GDP is improving..

>You're not an economist, dude. What is a "surplus of experts"? You speak like a layperson, not an economist.
Because I want to make sure you understand every syllable kiddie, why is it that you can't answer the 'gdp per capita' and standards of living question?

I am going to crush you so bad you are going to go cry home to momma baby boy.

Indeed
flooding the country with un-assimilateable angry warring age low iq parasites who hate you and want to destroy you and convert your family to a retarded monkey religion and refuse to work is a GREAT idea.

If world GDP doubles, world GDP per capita doubles, retard.

You are indeed the person who was struggling to understand first week freshman level macroeconomics. You speak the same exact way.

I believe in property ownership and this country is our property. Fuck off. Sage. Take down that flag.

>So genocide is okay? As long as the GDP is improving..
He's specifically only talking about in terms of the economy, and he is wrong, as are his pet ring of "economists" who can't understand that there are larger ramifications to immigration than just economics and that, for example, if you have an economy of basketball players, you don't benefit from importing midgets.

Yes goy, increase the (((GDP))), the only thing that matters!

>If world GDP doubles, world GDP per capita doubles, retard.
I speak in the exact same way? Are you sure you didn't just stumble on another ACTUAL economist who told you you were wrong and you just can't take the fucking hint?

Lol, you are hilarious.

GDP per Capita would indeed double if the world GDP doubled, but I'm talking about the country importing the immigrants, so tell me, how do they enjoy higher standards of living (or doubling of GDP per capita figures) if they are actually going to intermix with people who are less economically productive, which will dramatically lower gdp per capita?

Dude, you're not an "actual economist". You're not fooling anybody. Your basketball players and midgets example is beyond stupid.

The existing population benefits as consumers, as capital owners, and even as workers if native-born and immigrant labor are complementary inputs in production. In your stupid midget example, the immigrants aren't substitutes for the basketball players at all, so there's absolutely no losers in that situation.

>Dude, you're not an "actual economist". You're not fooling anybody. Your basketball players and midgets example is beyond stupid.

Yah, I am an actual economist, and you aren't, kid, so wash my fucking feet and tell me how much you love me.

No it isn't. The idea that in a 2 country system the GDP of that system would increase (or anything good would happen) is only true if the countries are equally good but specialize in different products, so the experts of one country can, in theory, migrate to the second and vice versa, making up for an total absence of experts in each country for the second product, making

There is another possibility however, one economists don't talk about.

What if the countries aren't just different. What if the are worse. Fundamentally worse. What if you have two countries, and ceteris paribus the only different is 20 inches less in height, and 20 points under on the IQ scale.

What IF the countries make EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING GOODS and enjoy EXACTLY THE SAME SHIT but, they just can't make as much of it as the next door can, so naturally they want to immigrate, rejoice in their wealth and surplus.

Then no, the only people this move benefits are the people who get to live in a country built and maintained mostly by people better and more productive than them, so naturally they get to enjoy the fruits of their labour, the better public products everybody has access too like better public transport and cleaner streets and air and so on.

But the receiving country doesn't benefit anything, and its average citizen is lowered in productivity.

>The existing population benefits as consumers, as capital owners, and even as workers if native-born and immigrant labor are complementary inputs in production. In your stupid midget example, the immigrants aren't substitutes for the basketball players at all, so there's absolutely no losers in that situation.

In my great basketball player example I showed you how pointless immigrants are if they are not different, but in fact, exactly the fucking same, just worse. I can make 10 bottles, they can make 2, I can score a 100 points on the IQ test, they can score 70. See the picture?

Look at the stats?

Talked to a bunch of immigrants you stumbled upon randomly and heard their story?

They feel irrelevant. Pointless. Like they have no place here.

Do you know why that is little kid scrubbing my feet?

BECAUSE THEY ARE.

People like to use the Italians and their Pizza example, but the reality is that outside of Italians and Swiss chocolatiers I'm PRETTY FUCKING HARD PRESSED to find a use for any other nationality or a unique product set they're selling.

Oh and FYI the swiss chocolatiers and pizza impresarios are Europeans. So get the hint.

Yep, you're the obnoxious retard who called himself Copernicus but somehow couldn't understand first week macroeconomics. Economists never describe countries as "equally good", whatever that means. I have no idea why you would lie about being an economist. It's seriously pathetic.

The world's GDP isn't America's GDP, we don't wish to subsidize the military of our next military opponent at our own expense in order to say we did something.

Fuck China and most places other than Europe that don't have a comparable standard of living.

>claims to be an economist
>doesn't even understand the idea of comparative advantage

>The existing population benefits as consumers, as capital owners, and even as workers if native-born and immigrant labor are complementary inputs in production. In your stupid midget example, the immigrants aren't substitutes for the basketball players at all, so there's absolutely no losers in that situation.

"complementary inputs in production" yawn, college jingoism and buzzwords, next you'll be telling me about how marx told you that its "not real communism" until the workers have seized the means of production or some shit, git gud kid, you're a fucking travesty and an embarassment to whatever shtihole you've crawled out of. Tumblr? No, reddit. Let me guess, incel? Don't blow yourself up or take a van to kill a bunch of people now! You know what they would do to a guy like you in jail, right?

If the immigrant workforce is worse at doing all the jobs that the economy has a demand for, or for all the jobs that the country's original citizens can do, it doesn't actually benefit, it declines. More people make shit, but more people consume shit. And actually, more people make less shit than the original citizens, so this actually reduces the overall standard of living and the average standard of living in the country.

Since the countries we are talking about, Iraq, Syria are bombed out hollowed out desert shitstains, you don't benefit the receiving country by making it more like a shitstain since by DEFINITION the people leaving the shitstain country will want to go to a better country. So you make that country worse off.

>Yep, you're the obnoxious retard who called himself Copernicus but somehow couldn't understand first week macroeconomics.
You can keep on saying that, but it won't make you any more of a moron who got found out and was told that he's a moron by how many actual economists now? Boy, it must sting.

>Economists never describe countries as "equally good", whatever that means.
Ya, they do.

Ask me how I know.

I graduated from one of the best colleges not in the country, in the fucking world.

Actual economists speak how I speak. Little plebbies like you like to tout words you don't understand because you've learned them yesterday in a textbook. Get fucking rekt kid.

>claims to be an economist
>dismisses the term "complementary inputs" as "college jingoism"

Apparently, you really don't understand the idea of comparative advantage.

You didn't use the word "jingoism" correctly by the way.

we have this thread every day

post the cute redhead next time

>>claims to be an economist
>>dismisses the term "complementary inputs" as "college jingoism"
Yes, we all do pleb. Whom have you worked for?

Any major banks? I do. Where you work at kid, I'm tired of the foreplay let me skullfuck you already.

>92 replies
I'm gonna make a thread titled "You mad whyte boi " with a black guy fucking some petite white 18 year old girl. Guaranteed 100+ replies.

>we have this thread every day
>post the cute redhead next time
Eh, he claims ancapism and economic liberalism then lowkey supports policies that will wreck the current economy, compromise any economy, and are associated with feel good leftist social policy.

He's a fucking leftist. I'm going to run him out of town.

Unless you don't work at all.

Which would explain your backwards opinions perfectly...

That's better than talking about ecelebs or Trump.

Cultural sovereignty > GDP

An anarcho-capitalist opposing government interference in markets? How outrageous.

Why are you threatening to skullfuck someone on a message board? You have issues, user.