How do we make interaction with women and having a family more fulfilling than "bing bing wahoo?"

Its a class issue; women were always like this and men were always like this, its why the aristocracy treated the lower classes like a different species. Gentlemen want ladies, not whores. Its when the middle class appeared and tried to emulate the upper class and the lines blurred and people had to pretend to be something they werent.

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Womens attitudes are just abhorrent. Im not interacting with women because I play mario, its because I dont want a shit evening.

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>interaction with women
Yeah
Let's talk about absolutely nothing for hours on end without any critical thought or logic involved
That sounds like fun
A three hour discussion about shoes

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There isn't enough men with enough resources in 1st world countries to go around for all the women.

There's a certain expectation the modern woman has for a serious relationship now, it is different to your mothers generation, or your grandmothers generation.

You're probably wondering how your ugly/autist/incel tier father even got married to begin with, it's because back in his day women's expectations weren't anywhere near as high, so it was easy for him to get into the sexual market, the little he had to offer was more than enough to get him a wife and family.

Now just having that "little bit" as a man isn't enough. You really need to be in the 80-90% percentile to really be looked at as an eligible man by the vast majority of the female population in 1st world countries.

The modern lifestyle is very expensive, a "decent" house is going to set you back $1,500,000. That's already way out of your price range unless you have wealthy parents helping you out. Most women just don't want to be with you if all you can offer her is renting some crappy unit on a block with 6 other units.

The economic conditions of the present world have basically rendered a huge portion of the male population unworthy.

Whore women are to blame for childish men.

force women to learn domestic skills

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>how do we make interaction with women and having a family more fulfilling than "bing bing wahoo?"

Women are the thing that makes men "grow up". As in have a family and work to support that family rather then their own short term pleasures.

Women are shit and men now get a raw deal so they no longer bother.

Fix those two things to get men back.

My ID was my WoW characters name a decade ago. GOOBI

What is this?

>being this underaged/incel

>time to man up and support me

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Feels good being gay. Don't have to worry about wooing females who hate my hobbies and just want someone to provide for them.

Keep being retards, heterocucks. Maybe Tyrone will let you have your wife on the weekends, lol

don't forget, you're here forever

Let's sum it up nice and easy: Women have absurd standards they themselves could never fulfill. From income to character to looks to all kind of other nonsense. At the same time they're completely insufferable AND undesirable themselves. They bring absolutely nothing to the table, they're used up, annoying, irritating, combatative and act like angry manlets with a chip on their should. If you try to sell a horrid product, something most people wouldn't want for free then making it completely overpriced isn't going to drive sales.

>Haha I’m fine
>Everything is fine

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Yeah, but why is that the case?

Why was my mother happy to be with my father who was an air-conditioning mechanic, yet to my sister tradesmen are essentially invisible to her as she sees them as peasants. This goes for all of her friends, all of their fathers are blue-collar workers, yet all of them only seek after and date highly successful businessmen, lawyers, doctors, etc.

its kek telling you to play WOW again. games are more important than women

This article doesn't make me want to date women.

If the author wanted men to spend more effort dating women, it would be challenging and playful and encouraging. Not this entitled cuntish nonsense.

Dont you understand user? Women live a life where all they have to do is complain to the man fucking them or tell him hes a pussy that needs to man up and their problem gets solved like magic, they don't realize it doesnt work on men they arent spreading their legs for.

Good, I almost went 5 hours without seeing this fucking post again.

topkek, insane bitch can't find BF. Blame men. She should stick to being lesbian.

I can answer the question btw.

Its because in my mothers generation they could date and marry a blue collar worker and still have a very comfortable life, big house, nice cars, and holidays every year, and most of the time the woman didn't even need to work. A tradesmen offered a woman in the 1950-1990s the same kind of lifestyle a highly paid lawyer/doctor can offer a woman in 2018.

To have that life style now, you need to be successful in business, a lawyer, a doctor, etc. Tradesmen simply cannot offer that "comfortable" lifestyle these days, only higher tier jobs can offer that kind of lifestyle.

M8 last gf broke up with me because of a discussion about defogging a windshield.
>My dad's a mechanic, why don't you trust me.
>Thinking you are better than me is a massive turn off
This shit doesnt ever get better.

man we should all have a friend you feel comfortable to jack off with living the neet lifestyle.

>Tradesmen simply cannot offer that "comfortable" lifestyle
That's absolute horseshit, at least here in the states trades are making a killing.

I'll tell you why women are actually having kids late in life or at all. They're too busy playing dick roulette before their looks give way.

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Enjoy your aids, faggiot

The only rich tradesmen here are the ones who run their own businesses and have sub-cucktractors working for them.

Those guys I consider successful businessmen, not just plain tradesmen.

My father worked for carrier for 40+ years was able to purchase a huge house, 2 investment properties (all 100% owned outright), and retired with 6 figures in savings and 7 figures in retirement.

Thats NEVER going to happen now for your new young carrier aircon mechanics.

Not really, trades max out at 40/hr so with 2000 work hours in a year they only will ever make 80k a year tops. The per capita income of americans is 56k, which means you need to be pulling in 200k a year to be middle class as a family of 4. Trades make young people seem rich because their peers are living on ramen with five figure debt, but in 20 years youll still be at the same place you are now

I think if anything, there’s confusion regarding terms used. That and being upside down doesn’t help.
Aussie! define terms pls

Easy. Replace bio women with AI bots that do everything for you. After the cost comes down below the price of a high end Toyota. They won't be actual AI, but you won't know the difference because it's not programmed to talk about astrology and why she hates her sister, etc. Will also book your flights, answer all your questions and run through the Kama Sutra on a single charge.

this

200k for middle class? Just a decade ago, almost everyone considered themselves middle class, when did the definition change

You are literally retarded.
Hell plumbers pull $160k by getting part sales commission and working in larger city like Dallas.

Not even close to true. Your entire assumption is that they are working the same job with zero motivation or benefit to start a business or become self-employed.

Middle class in the UK is your profession, not your income, which I firmly believe is a better way of doing it.

The true middle class is about 20 percent of the population, with the upper class being about 0.5 percent.

Both modern men and women are pathetic

No they didn't, you just didn't see the lower class because you were growing up in a suburb with people in your own socioeconomic class. In the 90s doctors were making $50k/year. Inflation and compound interest are a hell of a drug, hell in places like nyc, la, dc, etc $500k/year is barely middle class

Damned if we do damned if we don't.
And they still wonder why we hate feminism

This is nearly as ridiculous as when everyone in the 1990s knew someone who made £120k a year in IT.

It was never them. Or anyone who was ever around. But sure enough the jobs were there, apparently, and it produced a glut of computer science graduates. It was always a mate of a mate or something like that, it was a load of shite.

No one fixing sinks is making that kind of money. It’s fantasy.

Women to blame.
They control the rate of their own reproduction, because how hard is it to get your boyfriend / husband to fuck you?

By completely eliminating feminism.
Anything else and you can keep whining and blaming others.

Proof? Didnt think so

Once they start a business they are no longer trades men, but even still tardies will always be lower or lower middle class

eliminate social security
Let childfree faggots starve in the streets when they get old

First step, evict the jews and remove their influence over any mass media allowed into your nation. Anything available to children needs to be heavily censored.

Then propaganda from a young age teaching kids that life fulfilment can only really be gained through reproduction. When they are slightly older add propaganda about the objective superiority of virgin marriages. Spam them with aesop tales of male and female sluts dying alone and unloved. Tales of sluts ending up with self destructive sexual habits unable to hold together a marriage, etc etc.

Propaganda works, currently it works against us.

A lot of trade jobs are paid by the job, not by the hour.

More experienced tradesman can fix the problem faster, so he gets more per hour.

Six figures aren't a killing outside of rural areas. Can I blame money printing?

>but even still tardies will always be lower or lower middle class
Trump's dad started out as a tradesman. It's only a dead end job if you chose to stay there.

I read that as Melanin Not Kin.

Most people today live what we could previously categorize as middle class lifestyles.

I wouldnt even say upper class is 0.5%, more like 0.1%.

>women becoming more sexually promiscuous and less dignified making them less attractive long term mates resulting in less men engaging in serious relationships with them until they settle down
>decline in marriage stats is mens fault for playing video games

big red wouldn't say that
no feminist would say that
it was some black twitter cunt that said that

I'm visiting America for vacations and holy fucking kek,the women here are absolutely shallow,vapid,degenerate and disgustingly bad
If they aren't landwhales they are covered in tattoos,if not that they are low iq self centered idiots,if not that that are promiscuous cunts glued to a iPhone
Wtf is wrong with American women?
Even the thots in my country have more self respect than these walking beef sandwiches

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Even still, its never going to be enough to be upper middle class, like all women want

He was a housing developer, not a plumber or an electrician, which makes him an investment banker not a tradesman

Decent house 1.5 million? I live in a 3,000 sq ft house that was brand new that I bought on my own when I was 25, for under 200 grand.

shit thread
sage report

>He was a housing developer
yes, but he started out as a carpenter

HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SEE THIS GOD DAMN THREAD FULL OF USELESS FICKLE IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY'RE SMART

>Women have become less worthwhile persuing than "bing bing wahoo"
Their worth is one of those 'single use' type deals. The existing thots will never again possess the value they once had.

Ah a brand new house for $200k. I remember the 1990s.

Did you not observe his flag?
If housing was that cheap here I might actually be motivated to get a full time job

>What is this?
Strange cycles on this site

those are just shape shifting kikes

Hey women.. I don't owe you sex

Youre either a boomer or live in the middle of nowhere

That's irrelevant, carpentry didn't teach him about spreadsheets or putting an offering memorandum together. The way you make it to the 1% is to first gain a skillset that allows you to pull in twice the per capita income, then save and invest it young. Its interest on your investments that makes you wealthy, not the bs you do to get the ball rolling. If you saved 25k by 25 and just bought the top 10 preforming stocks by 75 you would have 1.4m without adding a single penny to it.

>If you saved 25k by 25 and just bought the top 10 preforming stocks by 75 you would have 1.4m without adding a single penny to it.
But doesn't this kinda go against the 'tradesmen can't be wealthy' thing. If you go to a trade school for a year and start making 100k-200k while your friends go to college earn nothing and get in debt for 200k. And you investing money from when you are 19, and they don't even pay off their student loans until they are 30

Don't worry, Pedro Al-Jamal will get right on that when your minority white boomer parents go to collect it

>having children is jew propaganda

It's the most ancient biological impulse, it needs no propaganda. In fact, you need propaganda to suppress it as they have.

Yeah, well, on the other side of the coin, if you are one of those guys that actually fall in the top 10 percent, you have the 90 percent of the women that have not found a partner constantly waving their tail ends at you, dropping hints, having friends drop hints, etc. The problem is that they want the 90th percentile of wealth that you have so they can continue their lifestyle while you finance it.
This is compounded if she has spawned a couple of kids in the interim, she needs someone to raise them; and by raise them, she's looking for a source of funds, not love and guidance.
The grass always seems to be greener on the other side of the fence, and all that.

Does anyone have an Asuka edit?

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It's always a men's fault, isn't it? Maybe if they'd keep their vaginas clean, we'd still be interested in marrying them.

Tradesmen statistically make 25-80k(after 25 years of experience) 100-200k is a meme and so is 200k college debt, most people only end up with around 20-30k if their parents dont pay for it (which most do, people starrt saving for their kids college before they are born here) i think the max you can even borrow is like 75k. Trades are what we push on neets because the only other job they can get with a gap in their employment and no skill is minimum wage food service or stocking shelves

>25-80k
That's how much they earn for tax purposes. They make more cash in hand.

Sure they do bud

>Women are the thing that makes men "grow up". As in have a family and work to support that family rather then their own short term pleasures.
This.

>Women are shit and men now get a raw deal so they no longer bother.
Those things are true but I believe it also, to a lesser degree, works the other way around. I mean marry that 20 year old and make her pregnant and she'll probably learn to bake instead of learn to get baked, backpacking in Holland.

We have to work out a way to make people pair off and marry when they are young and before they have high partner counts.

this. praise be

Nope, I got it in 2011. New development in a quiet suburb. All my neighbors are white and in their 30's. Everyone has kids. White people thrive when they aren't stuck in cities around shit skins. We need big yards, a lot of nature and fresh air. We aren't meant to be packed into tiny apartments next to millions of other people who don't look or act like us.

why do you think there are so many illegals doing manual labor and trade jobs? Do you honestly think they ask for a w2

(((we))) dont assfucker.
sadly women are degenerate whores nowadays, go figure how that happened you filthy kike.
the only way to get new slaves for you (((system))) is to import more mudslimes, but they hate the kikes, oy vey....what now rabbi?
i-ist it anudda shoah? does the goyim knows? oy gevalt!

To be fair to the potato wog he has a point in the UK tradesmen do off the books cash in hand work i used to do it in during the summer

>muh cash in hand

In what country do people even accept electrical/air-conditioning/plumbing without a certificate of compliance?

Are you trying to get your house burnt down?

Oy Vey

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You have described behavioral sink exhibited in the mouse utopia experiments

What was the nigger in the USA's name? He said something like the freed slaves should return to the farms and work for masser again so that their kids could become mechanics and their grandkids could become doctors.

I think that is how a lot of white men have to look at their situation today. I'd say my IQ is well above what I'd need to do law, medicine etc. but I'm a piece of shit raised by fuck up boomers.
I don't have the mental toughness, drive etc. I'd need for that kind of education and a high stress career.

Getting a solid trade and becoming my own boss should have been my path.

Mates rates laddo and a friend of a friend needs a favour on the cheap plus pakis and poos are always good for cheap no questions asked fixes

>how do we make interaction with women and having a family more fulfilling than "bing bing wahoo?"
hahahahahahahaha maybe women would be more valuable if they were harder to win than a video game

depends on the scope of the job, obviously.

But say something like, a friend of a friend wants a different shower head, or wants a clothes drier hooked up. Small job, something that you can do in 30 min on the way home from work. and they hand you 50 bucks.

They take your name and number and give it to their friend in a month of 2 when they need a washer in the sink replaced. etc

it absolutely does happen. Plenty of people dont even own the tools to do these little diy things

So the business owner gets the cash amd the tradesmen lose their jobs to illegals. How does this give tradesmen more money?

Its certainly not taking them from 25k to 200k

6 billion people of Jewish faith. Never forget that.

the average couple has sex once a week for 5 minutes at a time, if you fuck a whore for 1 hour for 50 euro you are actually saving money. men who get divorced rape pay about 100-1000€ per minute of sex. sometimes 10 000