Farm Life

The offgrid board no not Jow Forums is very slow, but has already some pdfs and graphs.
And on youtube I don't have any preferences. There is not many things you can do wrong so just go in ther and watch some of them.

Thanks for the tip that will be something I look into for sure!
Dzieki! Jeszcze musze cwiczyc moje polskie jezyk bo na prawde nigdy nie mowie po polsku, ale mjsle ze nie bedzie tak trudno jak przyjde do polsce. I will look into the root cellar, will be important during the long eastern euro winters haha
I don't need money I need food shelter and peace. I will also look for a wife in Poland to keep the pure blood going and will start a family. My kids brains will not be rotted at a young age like mine was with modern lifestyle.

Thanks bro that sounds really good. I need to learn a lot about farming and one thing I can do is check out those books. Unfortunately I will most likely get bored as fuck reading them. xD

Yeah the other guy said something about making money on the side and I would never be opposed to learning about construction or how to be a mechanic or whatever else. Hell, maybe I can help other rural people with their wifi connection LOL!

stay in America buddy. you remind me of those polish- Americans that can't speak a word of polish yet feel so immensely "proud" of something they did nothing to accomplish

Another thing, depending on how remote you are or how careful you are about industrial ingridients, I suggest you look into making your own cosmetics.
Soaps and cremes are easily made with leftover tallow and fat of animals you either have on your farm or hunt, allow you to have some extra money if you sell them to urbanite hipsters or interested people in general, usually smell and feel better cause you have total control over the aromatic oils/self collected herbs you add and always allow you to have a neat little present for family at hand.
And depending on how much you believe the thing about aluminium and other additionals you can stay free of them.

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>LOL!
Please fucking leave and never come back.

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>decide I'm going to go semi trad
>move to rural area in Queensland
>surrounded by meth heads, obese boomers and retarded inbreeds
>horrible male to female ratio
>get raped by overpriced utilities
>get raped by freight costs on everything you buy
>get raped by higher fuel prices
>have to use 5x the fuel
>very little work
I'm really glad I didn't get a mortgage desu

Just keep in mind that there is a lot or snake oil in small scale farming. And in my experience, simpler tends to be better.

Farm the soil, and you will see the results in whatever you are producing.

Study up on soil science, test your soil and not just NPK macro nutrients and PH, but soil tests that you have to get tested at a university that will tell you micro nurtrients like magnesium, manganise, boron, zinc, iron, calcium and biomass levels ECT... And then learn how and what to use to get those soil amendments up to par. Also learn what role each element plays. Plants only grow as well as it's weakest elemental link.

This is relevant in all types of farming, including all types of row croping, orchards and ranching.

Good luck user!

95% of your time will go to poop management. Livestock are pretty good at taking care of themselves, but the one thing they simply cannot comprehend is the relationship between bodily waste and disease/parasites.

Is your name first Jacob by any chance?

Oh, vegetable farming? In that case, 95% of your time will go to killing herbivores from the moment you plant to the moment you harvest. Get a shotgun and some birdshot, or else you'll be lucky to see a single seed sprout before something smaller and faster than you digs it up and eats it.

Shotgun is recommended because it also makes scarecrows work, too. Vermin aren't scared of something that looks human but doesn't move, until you drill into the survivors' heads that a human doesn't have to move to go POW and kill them instantly.

This is a good point. Farming can be romanticized. When talking to people who want to start farming or ranching I tell them...

Ranching- Do you like to shovel shit, pound t-posts and chase and fix plumbing leaks? Yes you say, then this is the right path for you!

Small scale row cropping- Do you like to be hunched over for hours on end, weeding and harvesting and planting? Chasing and fixing plumbing leaks? Being a Grease monkey fixing machinary issues? Yes you say! Then this is the job for you!

Small scale row cropping without a shotgun? I'll admit, I gave advice on something I never personally did (rancher all my life), but I know folks that farm beans and that's what they told me.

I knew this guy that managed a decent size veg farm in Oregon and he said certain times a year, they would just assume 30% crop loss on leaf green production just from bird damage. The set up these propane canons on timers that would make a big boom like every 15 minutes to try and deter the birds, but the birds would eventually get used to it. Also have heard horror stories about gopher damage as well. I am pretty fortunate and really am only effected by pheasant, turkey and hogs certain times of the year.

Yeah, a good fence will fend those off, unless you get a really hungry hog or turkey. You do have to kill some birds every season, though, or they lose their fear and get used to non-lethal deterrents like scarecrows and noisemakers. Same for raccoons and opossums, or anything big enough to send a cat running and agile enough to climb a fence.

Taking the bait.
>See's the thread creator speaking Polish to another Pole (or just doesnt read the thread and responds anyway)
>Claims he cant speak a word
>uses meme flag
Thanks! Do all farmers do this?
I mean life is going to be hard work no matter what. I think using my body daily and living naturally will bring me fulfillment.

Yeah, but there's "hard work I'm willing to do" and there's "EW EW EW NOBODY EVER TOLD ME THE HORSES WOULD ALL POOP EVERYWHERE SOMEONE MAKE THEM STOP!"

That's unironically how I ended up in ranching. Woman I knew bought a farm, thought she was going to be Princess of Ponyville, and reality promptly took a dump all over those plans. I got involved when she bought medicine to make her horses poop less often, out of concern for the poor animals, and pretty much ended up buying the place for a song while she moved back into her parents house like so many millenials do.

you just plain sound like kind of a faggot, and you're in for a bit of a rude awakening when and if you do actually go to Poland. your life won't be more "pure" there

I honestly think its hard work Im willing to do. Guess I gotta give it a shot to find out. Plenty of people are just fine with it so why cant I you know? I mean its how people lived for a lot of history.

You just sound bitter and toxic and there is nothing wrong with wanting to live a rural life instead of urban/suburban. Also I just want to live in a country with my people.

>to buy medicine to make the horses poop less often
What an idiot. Constipating her horses because she doesn’t like icky poo poo. That’s all taking care of animals is; poop. I helped take care of these cheetahs for the smithsonian and knew from the get go that it was basically going to be feeding them, and while they’re eating, cleaning up their poop. Idk why people thing animal care taking is rolling around in fields with the animals. Now that I’m done passing judgement who wants to mock me; I really really want to get a wolf when I’m older and the kids move out. I’m aware it’ll probably kill me but I think it would be awesome. I knew this one Native guy when I worked at a petco in high school, he had all kinds of permits to own animals because he can go “muh ancestors” he brought his pet cougar once, pic related. Said his last cougar was like a giant cat, would sleep on his bed and everything

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Also nice flags you clown.

>toxic
why are you here faggot?

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if you've lived in the US most of your life they aren't really "your people"

>meme flag burger larping as a Pole to meme on non meme flag burgers larping as Poles

Go for it, personally I started out pretty squeamish about poop too. But I manned up, learned to muck stables efficiently, and now I have enough spare time to shitpost on Jow Forums too.

I would say most farmer don't but should. It isn't expensive (about $25 per test sample) and most of the micro soil amendments are applied in such trace amounts that they are not expensive either. I apply the trace stuff thru a tractor sprayer and some of the elements only require maybe a cup, of let's say, zinc sulfate, per acre. It's not remotely expensive, expectially when considering yield improvements.

And the results are crazy obvious when comparing a field that is at the end of a rotation cycle that has been propped up with only NPK and calcium in between cash crops, and a field that has been completely tested, reamended and cover cropped and is back into it's first cash crop. Staggering difference.

>but soil tests that you have to get tested at a university that will tell you micro nurtrients like magnesium, manganise, boron, zinc, iron, calcium and biomass levels ECT
Jeez, come down. It is much easier to just look up the bedrock and the level of weathering of it. Knowing the kind of mineral you have your soil on already gives you a very good overview about all the nutrients that are available. Add to this just looking at the depth of the individual horizons and the organic coverage and you are pretty much set.

Oh so the blacks and Mexicans and Asians and whatever else are my people then huh? Makes sense to me. Yeah how about what matters is genetics, culture, and ancestry. Oh so living in America means you aren't anything else. Good Ill go tell the dreamers!!!

Cute kitty! Thanks for sharing, posts like this are why I still hang around Jow Forums.

FUCK OFF FAGGOTS!!!!

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I will have to look into this more and make a decision for myself. I will say if the studies show it helps a lot and its cheap then why not?
Where did you start? Were you already a farmer or did you make the life changing choice?

Holy shit the autism. When your biggest source of identity is Jow Forums you have a problem.

Suite yourself user, but I would prefer to know what is going on exacting in my fields, than just the general consensus for the area. I know that a lot of those elements get used up over time and I see a noticable difference at the beginning of a production verses at the end of all the crop rotations. And for $25 a sample, what do you have to lose?

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I am not going to watch those because seeing others in pain is not good for you. Just because they are not really compatible with our society does not mean we should take pleasure in their pain. Hate is bad for you, I know it sounds like a leftist meme but seriously. And trust me I struggle with that myself.

To be fair I studied forestry and had several courses about soil, so there is that.
But it is fairly easy to get the general idea about your soil with no laboratory test and just simply being there to feel size of the substrate and the depth of the different horizons.

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bump cause I don't want this thread die

Don't worry you can watch it, I don't think he felt a thing. No pain.

Okay heres something. My dad says I need a lot of starting capital for this. What do you think? Is starting a farm expensive? How much?

Thats my dream. I hope you follow through. At least one of us can be happy.

Why do you feel as though you can't accomplish it? Maybe I would have the same walls as you and I just don't know it yet?

Really depends on what you want. Do you want this to be your main profession which covers your bills? Then you needs lots of land and machines to work it.
If you want to life homestead like and produce foryourself and sell the surplus at farmers market then you still need money for your land, tools resources etc. but can cut down a bit if you try to life self suficcient.

You still need money though.

The second option is what I want, any estimate on the amount of money that would require? I might have to get a job and save up. I will have a degree in finance soon but I feel like the job market is rough and my gpa is mediocre and I don't have any internships.

Don't get me wrong thats not the reason I want to do this though. I just dont want to work for someone and I want a natural lifestyle.

>General

General understanding is still shooting basically blind when you are trying to maximize yields.

How much Agricultural experience do you have? Have you studied much of William A. Albrecht's work?

No idea about polands land prices, but if you won't go 100% offgrid you might do day trading or whatever you call this fast stock exchange if you're into finance.
I myself don't have any expirience there.

Also I'll go now. Hopefully this thread will reach bump limit.

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As I said I studied forestry, so I rather have an idea what trees need, but applies all the same.
How is the composition of particle sizes? What is the base rock mineral? Vulcanic or sedimental? How much clay minerals?
All of these questions which only require you to be there yourself and have one generic info shard of minerals and their composition will give you a [sufficent] knowledge of your soil.

I already do some trading and have been pretty successful so yeah that could work. Thanks!

We'll I can tell you that the NRCS scientists and University scientists I have worked with that specialized in soil science in agriculture (people with there doctorates) that have been to my farm ALL have requested detail soil sample tests processed through the University or 3rd party testing facilities to begin advising not only myself, but many farmers I know.

All of these people have had a little more experience than a few classes in soil science and I can tell you know fuck all about agricultural intensive row cropping.

Programmer and vidyagamer, just out of college. Spent some time beanwalking as a summer job. Girl I had a thing for decides to buy a farm with a stable, I try to be supportive, end up getting dragged like the beta bitch I am into doing all the work (sadly getting paid, not laid) until she finally has one epic freakout over me paying a vet for a house call to tell her not to give the horses Immodium AD, says I can just have the farm if I like it so much, so I got it. Fifteen years later, I stable three horses, ranch pigs in what used to be a small crop plot (spent too much time on the horses, field went totally to shit) and four chickens after a feral rooster decided my shed was his property and woke me up crowing at some tweaker looking for shit to steal.